FURY V USYK

Neither of these two are greats imo, despite both being unbeaten before the last fight. There haven't been any great heavyweights for a long time. The fight obvs isn't big in the US either. There used to be some great US heavyweights but they don't seem to produce any greats at any weight any more. That's why HW boxing is in Saudi. They pay $75-80 for PPVs over there.

The last great heavyweight was Lennox Lewis.

In the US a big fight generates much more in revenue because of the PPV price over there and the size of the market, but the fighters get a lot more from the Saudis. The Saudis obvs aren't looking to make money on it. So maybe a trilogy isn't a shoe-in for financial reasons (for them).

But for the fighters and their promoters, it definitely is. Their last chance to milk the Saudis unless Fury wins and then they get another. Prob won't get a payday like this again after either. This time it's a reported $190m purse with a 55-45 split in Usyk's favour.

Utter rubbish

But I'll watch out of morbid curiosity, nothing else to do with football on the thin side at this time because of end of South American season

Streamer 1.01

Wow! This guy just won a free meal! I think...

I'm backing Fury inside the distance.. saver on points.

Fury wins for me , there's no way they don't go the trilogy route

Even Usyk will be all for it

It's a gateway event for the Saudis so everybody is happy
... Doubtless they want more, but not if it's too boring,
so may need to push a few new faces.

The Saudis will run out of money eventually , within 5 to 10 years

They'll go the same way China did with their big ideas

No one wants to live there

World Cup 2034 and that'll be that

Heavyweight boxing was just about biggest
sport on planet pre WW2 up to Tyson (ish) and  then usa
losing its dominance.

Even the rocky films are moving down the weights!!!

I'll be backing Fury at 2.44.  Seems generous.

Jim FURYK USEless?
He won the US Open Golf in 2003 if I am not mistaken...

Wobbled in 2nd.. come on Tyson!

CHINISH HIM

Fury looking too big and strong after 3... imo.

Fury fav now

after 5.. Fury looking good. imo.

Back to SPs now. Market thinks that round was more than just 1 round changing. Fury was like this in the 1st fight and faded

6 and 7 Usyk..

6-2;Fury IMO

Fury 3.6 wtf

Level 8th...

Usyk just waited for him to tire sadly

Job done well done Usyk

Usyk 3-2 after 8 and 3 rounds your pick for me.

Fury's father was in his corner last fight, telling him the opposite of what his coach was and giving mixed messages about how the fight was going.

Not there tonight.

Usyk is in total control now yhtl

Fury needs a ko

Fury miles ahead imo

No chance

Usyk is winning every round after 6

Fury won 3, 5, 7, the others Usyk won

No way!

Fury won the first 2 clearly for a start

A tossup now says Betfair exchange.

I give Usyk the 4th and 6th and that's all

It's an even fight. Fury 1 round max

Some people are only giving Fury 2 rounds max , he needs a KO, aint getting one

Anyone on the draw?

They're going to give it Fury because of the trilogy

Fixed if so

A draw would be totally ridiculous

But aye, 4 mega fights beats 3

They can sell a third fight with a draw , should have fooking thought about it ffs

Usick 1/2 now.

Can't they just give it Usyk to end this cr@p

Fury clear winner 117-111

what are you smoking tonight tober

Not for me tober

116_112 usyk

Market is crazy

Backed Fury some more @5.3

If they call it a draw people should switch off

Usyk by 2, but so many rounds could go either way.

Dominated with the jab in most rounds

LOL by 6 rounds.
Fury could win it.
Most people don't understand how scoring works and what scores for fighters.

Usyk dominated second half of fight

Wtf that is BS

You had Fury by 6 rounds FFS

Dec 21, 2024 -- 5:28PM, lurka wrote:

LOL by 6 rounds. Fury could win it.Most people don't understand how scoring works and what scores for fighters.

Who doesn't understand. It's pretty simple

Dec 21, 2024 -- 5:30PM, tobermory wrote:

Dec 21, 2024 -- 11:28PM, lurka wrote:LOL by 6 rounds. Fury could win it.Most people don't understand how scoring works and what scores for fighters.Who doesn't understand. It's pretty simple

You clearly don't

Thank fook

Goodbye Fury and take your fooking circus family with you

Usyk won 3 rounds. To be very generous you could give him another 2 max of close rounds.Be interesting to see the punch stats.

I was expecting a fix there phew

Usyk much the best and he's not even at his peak now

Well done SontStrat.

There's no way Fury ever won more than 4 rounds max in the end

I was on Fury kissing (small bet) but Usyk is the best currently and dominated after round 4 or 5

But you called the score precisely - nicely done as all the judges agreed.

One thing people think scores a lot is being aggressive, ie coming forward. That scores in MMA but in boxing it has to be EFFECTIVE aggression. If you are getting countered with better punches landing against you the opponent scores. There were a good few rounds like that for Usyk.

Katie Taylor wins fight like this too. Girls coming in with windmill punches and not landing many, while she lands better punches on the counter.

Yeah I'm quite happy about that

It also means no more Fury, unless they go the Joshua Wembley retirement fight

Fury coming forward with just a jab for half that fight

Usyk out worked him especially after round 4, Fury gassed out and Usyk was absolutely comfortable

They've scored it well how it should be, people are use to fixing scorecards by our corrupt b0llox

I thought it could have gone wither way on decision tho. No way Usyk won by 4 imo

The judging an absolute joke.


Giving rounds when punches only landed on gloves

The scoring should be live. There are fighters and corners who think they're ahead going into the final few and 1/3 judges will agree but the others don't. They have that in amateur boxing.

I agree lurka

Winning by 4 and tied is only 2 rounds going other way.

I didn't see any 2 point rounds and judges must
score a winner of round.

If you see 2 rounds even likely you give one each
as you can't record a 10-10

Judges gave Fury 8 different rounds between them lol

Most boxers/pundits don't even understand the scoring. It's totally unclear tho.

A 10-10 is not against the rules, but judges get marked down if they do it more than once in a blue moon

A 10-8 is possible without a KD too

Yeah, also quite rare to see

You could also have a point deducted leading to 2 point round.

But I didn't see any 2 point rounds so they were all 1 point rounds

I thought the scoring was 10 point must, so no 10-10 allowed

Fury is past his best but still doesn't seem to be in as absolute tip top shape as he could be for a fight like this.
Wouldn't be surprised if Usyk is doped either. Has power punches and stamina in the later rounds. He's not a great boxer.

10 pt must means at least 1 fighter has to have 10, but you can still have 10-10

Fury needed to damage him a lot more in the earlier rounds so Usyk was a different fighter in the later rounds. Same in the first fight. He was always going to fade when Usyk comes strong. Just winning the earlier rounds was not a good tactic in either fight.

Usyk one of the greatest ever is laughable.

Usyk is a Great Cruiser weight.. Probably the best heavy weight around atm.. Dubois wont trouble him, if and when.

Dubois' has already beaten him!

For me, Fury didnt do enough to take Usyk's titles. I remember Cooper v Bugner !

Dec 21, 2024 -- 6:05PM, swiftynifty wrote:

Dubois' has already beaten him!

Watch it again, low blow, no way!

Dec 21, 2024 -- 5:49PM, tobermory wrote:

Judges gave Fury 8 different rounds between them lol

this subjective scoring by 3 wise men sitting in sides of the ring seeing different is seriously dated

Turki had AI scoring the fight and it had it as 118-112 Usyk

AI will be taking over soon enough

You can have a 10-8 fight without a KD but it's nearly always with a KD and judges use 'severity' of KD to finalise their score.
You can have a 10-7 round which usually means a boxer's been totally dominant with several KD's

the criteria for winning rounds made it obvious Usyke should have been given the fight, cleaner shots landed, controlled the pace of the fight more and was hit less.

Kind Regards.

Dec 21, 2024 -- 6:11PM, swiftynifty wrote:

Watch it again, low blow, no way!

I just looked in the history books... It was.

If you watched it, it wasn't!

I've said this for yonks.
Boxing is a laughing stock when it comes to judging fights.
Surely there must be tech as well as eyesight to count the number of punches that land, hurtful punches etc.
This antiquated scoring system is too subjective, open to corruption, isn't transparent & needs to go!

Now all the big fights are in Saudi, they really should just fight to the death.

Boxing has been mediocre ever since they went to 12 rounds from 15.

Debatable whether Dubois was a low blow under the rules. It probably was, but Usyk's belt was at his belly button, he'd been hit hard before that and he took a break for a few mins while he was shook, holding his bálls. It was nowhere near his bálls.

Boxing doesn't have a world governing body like other sports. It has been run by promoters/dodgy money for decades.

How could anyone score that Fury by 6? Good god, I don't usually have the comm on but did (tnt) and they were confidently bigging up Fury when it looked like nowt of the sort to me, most ringsiders and then the judges! A very very long way from the worst decision ever.

Anyone who paid for that fight needs to give their head a wobble

Absolute bolloox

TNT was ahead of all the other channels I had........