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By:
sparrow
When: 25 Sep 24 21:57
Sick of hearing about Ferguson on all these threads.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 25 Sep 24 22:57
Fergie Time.

And now he's been retired over 10 years they play Fergie Time x 2 or 3 Laugh
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 26 Sep 24 15:36
Position of maximum opportunity

Pmsl

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/sep/26/football-fans-put-up-with-dark-arts-if-it-helps-get-result
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 26 Sep 24 16:51
Agreed. Tony Adams is a classic example, a player who always needed to feign injury. A right pansy.
By:
mesmerised
When: 26 Sep 24 16:54
Give it a rest you tart, this fishing expedition is boring.

Tony Adams incidentally the best ever defender from the Premier League era, nobody organised the back line like he did.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 26 Sep 24 16:57
Keane & Souness too. All those titles won by going down crying whenever the going got tough. A right pair of pansies!
By:
mesmerised
When: 26 Sep 24 17:02
Ferguson actually said that Tony Adams was a United player in an Arsenal shirt who he tried to sign when he was 19, how about that, did Fergie sign pansies at the back? Laugh
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 26 Sep 24 17:07
mesmerised I'm being sarcastic. Likening Great leaders of great teams to the wimps we saw on Sunday.
By:
mesmerised
When: 26 Sep 24 17:10
Arsenal fans are agreeing with you, the play acting was too much, foreign influenced and embarrassing, but against City I don't care, we generally don't carry on like that against every one else.
By:
sparrow
When: 27 Sep 24 11:16
From an article in the Guardian newspaper....
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/sep/26/football-fans-put-up-with-dark-arts-if-it-helps-get-result

"Back when football was good – between 1989-1992 to be precise – Cambridge United were on an unlikely surge from the Fourth Division to within a couple of games of the inaugural Premier League season. Defeat by Leicester in the playoffs ended any realistic hope of ever reaching the Promised Land™.

There was a lot I didn’t notice at the time from my seat in the Junior U’s enclosure, namely all of it apart from the goals. It was just Dion Dublin and John Taylor heading in loads of crosses. I certainly wasn’t aware of all the tactics the manager, John Beck, employed to frustrate the opposition.

For those that don’t know, Beck came from the POMO school: Position of Maximum Opportunity. In other words, get it launched, stick it in the mixer, hit the channels. Some accounts suggest he quite sensationally gave cash bonuses to whichever player kicked the ball the furthest. It was wildly successful, until it wasn’t.

Added to that was making life simply horrible for the opposition. When it was hot he turned the thermostat on full whack in the away dressing room and when it was cold he turned it off. He put skip-loads of sand in the corners of the pitch so the ball would just stop there. He wanted the pitch in such a terrible condition that he signed a letter to the groundsman, Ian Darler, confirming that the groundsman, Ian Darler, wasn’t responsible for the state of the pitch.

He moved the away dugout almost to the corner flag. He gave the opposition saturated, sodden footballs to warm up with. Apparently for away games, he’d take the under-18s and get them to play an 11-a-side match on our half of the pitch before kick-off to cut it up as much as they could.

These tactics didn’t necessarily have a name in the 90s, but now Beck would be held up as a Jedi Master of the Dark Arts. He is just one example from football’s past, which makes it confusing that Mikel Arteta seems to have been accused in some quarters of inventing them in the second half at the Etihad on Sunday".
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 27 Sep 24 11:52
A book you'll never read; The Beautiful Game by Mikel Arteta
By:
sparrow
When: 27 Sep 24 12:16
Yes it's shocking what Arteta has invented.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 27 Sep 24 12:25
Nobody has ever said Arteta invented players faking injuries to break up play or blocking goal keepers at corners.

Just that he coaches them and is prepared to use them on an industrial scale.
By:
Storm Alert
When: 27 Sep 24 12:34
Change the record its becoming very dull. Most of us think Arteta is doing a fine job trying to take on the juggernaut that is Man City.
By:
Aspro
When: 27 Sep 24 13:14
I'm with storm here. Time to put this one to bed.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 27 Sep 24 15:10
Agreed we can always TTT this thread next time Mikel deploys his anti-football tactics.
By:
1st time poster
When: 28 Sep 24 10:12
when you get a set piece coach been paid double figure 1000,s a week doing a lap of honour because 4 or 5 multi  million pound players score a far post header of a corner a feat people paid not a penny repeat 10,000 times every weekend all over the country, YOU NO THE GAMES FOOKED, why should fans even no the name of the set piece coach Imagine if they win something
By:
Storm Alert
When: 28 Sep 24 12:21
Stick to Fake or Fortune as clearly u know FA about football. Laugh
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 28 Sep 24 12:53
All clubs coach set pieces so why not have a set piece coach?

And all clubs coach foul play at corners. It's up to Refs both on the pitch and sat in front of screens at West Drayton to enforce the rules.

Trouble is we can't be sure those Refs haven't been compromised.
By:
1st time poster
When: 28 Sep 24 13:01
no one scored more set pieces goals than teams managed by Moyes,fat Sam,Warnock,beck etc etc
name me their sets piece coaches,show my TV pics of them ,commentators talking about them ?
who coached the LOVE TRAIN for England in the world cup,who was England's sety piece coach ?
By:
s.kenbo
When: 28 Sep 24 16:55
Regarding Trossard being eligible to play today after last weeks sending off. Has a cup game always counted as game for a suspension?

Trossard just scores the winner as I’m typing!!
By:
penzance
When: 28 Sep 24 17:27
Good few years back West ham played Liverpool & both had a player sent off.
Both missed the FA Cup Final because of it.Hayden Mullins for us,can't remember
the Liverpool player.
By:
the fink sisters
When: 28 Sep 24 17:39
Rules is rules. You always miss the next game. In this instance it was a cup game. Apparently he was gutted not being able to turn out against the Trotters in midweek.

I think a couple of players have missed an FA Cup Final after being booked or sent off in a final league game.
By:
Storm Alert
When: 28 Sep 24 17:45
Looking forward to watching the match tonight. That BBC match stats suggest Leicester performed miracles to hold Arsenal till so late; Justin's 2nd goal superb by all accounts.
By:
sparrow
When: 28 Sep 24 17:48
That Liverpool player sent off in the West Ham game was Luis Garcia.
By:
s.kenbo
When: 28 Sep 24 19:14
Cheers, guys. Never realised, always thought it was the next PL game. That’s a nice easy manipulation for players a card away from a suspension and a midweek Mickey Mouse cup game up next.
By:
Storm Alert
When: 28 Sep 24 19:19
No youve still not got it. Carrying over bans to FA cup EFL cup applies to red cards. Accumulating 5 yellows is a ban restricted to PL matches.
By:
s.kenbo
When: 28 Sep 24 19:35
So consistently inconsistent!
By:
sofaking
When: 28 Sep 24 22:20

Sep 28, 2024 -- 5:39PM, the fink sisters wrote:


Rules is rules. You always miss the next game. In this instance it was a cup game. Apparently he was gutted not being able to turn out against the Trotters in midweek.I think a couple of players have missed an FA Cup Final after being booked or sent off in a final league game.


The rules are son inconsistent. Christian Romero was carded in a Champions League game in 2023 but served his one match suspension against Quarabag 18 months later in the Europey League.

By:
Aspro
When: 28 Sep 24 22:23
I didn't realise he was suspended sofa, just thought he was left out. Obviously not as in touch as I should be Blush

Either way, isn't that a UEFA card and nothing to do with the FA?
By:
sofaking
When: 28 Sep 24 22:37

Sep 28, 2024 -- 10:23PM, Aspro wrote:


I didn't realise he was suspended sofa, just thought he was left out. Obviously not as in touch as I should be Either way, isn't that a UEFA card and nothing to do with the FA?


Yes, a UEFA card Aspro. But still...

By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 29 Sep 24 13:33
Troy Deeney covered it.
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