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Sick of hearing about Ferguson on all these threads.
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Fergie Time.
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Position of maximum opportunity
Pmsl https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/sep/26/football-fans-put-up-with-dark-arts-if-it-helps-get-result |
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Agreed. Tony Adams is a classic example, a player who always needed to feign injury. A right pansy.
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Give it a rest you tart, this fishing expedition is boring.
Tony Adams incidentally the best ever defender from the Premier League era, nobody organised the back line like he did. |
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Keane & Souness too. All those titles won by going down crying whenever the going got tough. A right pair of pansies!
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Ferguson actually said that Tony Adams was a United player in an Arsenal shirt who he tried to sign when he was 19, how about that, did Fergie sign pansies at the back?
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mesmerised I'm being sarcastic. Likening Great leaders of great teams to the wimps we saw on Sunday.
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Arsenal fans are agreeing with you, the play acting was too much, foreign influenced and embarrassing, but against City I don't care, we generally don't carry on like that against every one else.
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From an article in the Guardian newspaper....
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/sep/26/football-fans-put-up-with-dark-arts-if-it-helps-get-result "Back when football was good – between 1989-1992 to be precise – Cambridge United were on an unlikely surge from the Fourth Division to within a couple of games of the inaugural Premier League season. Defeat by Leicester in the playoffs ended any realistic hope of ever reaching the Promised Land™. There was a lot I didn’t notice at the time from my seat in the Junior U’s enclosure, namely all of it apart from the goals. It was just Dion Dublin and John Taylor heading in loads of crosses. I certainly wasn’t aware of all the tactics the manager, John Beck, employed to frustrate the opposition. For those that don’t know, Beck came from the POMO school: Position of Maximum Opportunity. In other words, get it launched, stick it in the mixer, hit the channels. Some accounts suggest he quite sensationally gave cash bonuses to whichever player kicked the ball the furthest. It was wildly successful, until it wasn’t. Added to that was making life simply horrible for the opposition. When it was hot he turned the thermostat on full whack in the away dressing room and when it was cold he turned it off. He put skip-loads of sand in the corners of the pitch so the ball would just stop there. He wanted the pitch in such a terrible condition that he signed a letter to the groundsman, Ian Darler, confirming that the groundsman, Ian Darler, wasn’t responsible for the state of the pitch. He moved the away dugout almost to the corner flag. He gave the opposition saturated, sodden footballs to warm up with. Apparently for away games, he’d take the under-18s and get them to play an 11-a-side match on our half of the pitch before kick-off to cut it up as much as they could. These tactics didn’t necessarily have a name in the 90s, but now Beck would be held up as a Jedi Master of the Dark Arts. He is just one example from football’s past, which makes it confusing that Mikel Arteta seems to have been accused in some quarters of inventing them in the second half at the Etihad on Sunday". |
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A book you'll never read; The Beautiful Game by Mikel Arteta
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Yes it's shocking what Arteta has invented.
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Nobody has ever said Arteta invented players faking injuries to break up play or blocking goal keepers at corners.
Just that he coaches them and is prepared to use them on an industrial scale. |
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Change the record its becoming very dull. Most of us think Arteta is doing a fine job trying to take on the juggernaut that is Man City.
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I'm with storm here. Time to put this one to bed.
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Agreed we can always TTT this thread next time Mikel deploys his anti-football tactics.
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when you get a set piece coach been paid double figure 1000,s a week doing a lap of honour because 4 or 5 multi million pound players score a far post header of a corner a feat people paid not a penny repeat 10,000 times every weekend all over the country, YOU NO THE GAMES FOOKED, why should fans even no the name of the set piece coach Imagine if they win something
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Stick to Fake or Fortune as clearly u know FA about football.
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All clubs coach set pieces so why not have a set piece coach?
And all clubs coach foul play at corners. It's up to Refs both on the pitch and sat in front of screens at West Drayton to enforce the rules. Trouble is we can't be sure those Refs haven't been compromised. |
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no one scored more set pieces goals than teams managed by Moyes,fat Sam,Warnock,beck etc etc
name me their sets piece coaches,show my TV pics of them ,commentators talking about them ? who coached the LOVE TRAIN for England in the world cup,who was England's sety piece coach ? |
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Regarding Trossard being eligible to play today after last weeks sending off. Has a cup game always counted as game for a suspension?
Trossard just scores the winner as I’m typing!! |
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Good few years back West ham played Liverpool & both had a player sent off.
Both missed the FA Cup Final because of it.Hayden Mullins for us,can't remember the Liverpool player. |
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Rules is rules. You always miss the next game. In this instance it was a cup game. Apparently he was gutted not being able to turn out against the Trotters in midweek.
I think a couple of players have missed an FA Cup Final after being booked or sent off in a final league game. |
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Looking forward to watching the match tonight. That BBC match stats suggest Leicester performed miracles to hold Arsenal till so late; Justin's 2nd goal superb by all accounts.
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That Liverpool player sent off in the West Ham game was Luis Garcia.
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Cheers, guys. Never realised, always thought it was the next PL game. That’s a nice easy manipulation for players a card away from a suspension and a midweek Mickey Mouse cup game up next.
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No youve still not got it. Carrying over bans to FA cup EFL cup applies to red cards. Accumulating 5 yellows is a ban restricted to PL matches.
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So consistently inconsistent!
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I didn't realise he was suspended sofa, just thought he was left out. Obviously not as in touch as I should be
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Troy Deeney covered it.
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