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Not got it on here,is there one ? Should be up by now with
only 5 days to go.
only 5 days to go.
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Yeah, not sure why they havn't added it yet. It's live on the likes of 356, though.
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Villa was pretty obvious last year, but I can't find anything that stands out this time, so I likely won't have a bet. Roughly 100 points is the target, so I guess one of the mid-table teams, like fulham with 42 points, outperforms.
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Premier League 24/25 Season Handicap: Team Handicap Odds Man City 0 Arsenal 2 Liverpool 9 Chelsea 16 Man Utd 18 Newcastle 19 Tottenham 20 Aston Villa 24 Brighton 32 West Ham 34 Crystal Palace 34 Bournemouth 39 Brentford 42 Fulham 42 Wolverhampton 42 Everton 42 Nottm Forest 46 Southampton 50 Ipswich 50 Leicester 51 |
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Palace worth a pop
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yup they looked like the ones to be on to me also- think it looks like they have a decent manager on board
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no Olise and possibly no Guehi this year (though both missed parts of last season)..
quite like West Ham though not a market I'd get involved in.. |
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Palace, West ham, Brighton all look capable of reaching 100
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The money spent by West Ham warrants a top 6 finish. 62-66 puts them in contention, so they would be my bet.
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West Ham would need to have their new-signings all firing from the off... not very likely. Top 6 would be a huge triumph imo, but certainly not impossible.
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@ 23 I'll have West Ham to be relegated
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Palace nd Villa will be ones to avoid in this market, not because I think they won't do well necessarily although I do think Villa will struggle but because the market would have over-reacted to how they went last season.
I want a side who were poor last year and who may have a better one as they'll be given too much leeway in this market, so Everton +42 for me, although they do have another threat of a points deduction hanging over them though they think they will be alright !! |
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Not sure about having to be poor last year. Palace are kind of in the same boat as Villa were - bad start to the season but finished strongly. Although, yeah, I don't think they are on the same trajectory. Tell you what, Forest at +47 could give you a run.
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Wolves at +42 for me ... new signings looking good pre season (esp. Brazilian Right wing back Pedro Lima)
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Yeah, Wolves good shout also.
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United +18...who reckons they are getting 70+ points
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They would need around 80 points Duffy - even more lol
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Still not a mkt on here.Can't be doing it can they?
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market up now
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https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/football/market/1.231743265
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West Ham favs by miles
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New manager at west ham.. Looks like a totally new direction.. who knows?? Not for me, I'm guessing it's gonna end in disappointment.. Wan-Bissaka is the complete opposite to what David Moyes would pick..
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Yep, depends how quickly they bed in new players, but
West ham were decent last season with Moyes like Southgate holding back to attacking talent. What happens should be fun for West ham getting their swagger back, or bursting dem bubbles... |
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The attacking talent
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Sporting Life Fancy Notts Forest +47:
There is the cliché cloud of uncertainty surrounding Nottingham Forest but they can take confidence from a solid enough end to last season which saw them secure Premier League survival - three of their final four defeats came against sides playing in Europe this time around. They’ve aimed to address their set-piece problems of last season by signing 6ft 8” goalkeeper Carlos Miguel and 6ft 5” centre-back Nikola Milenković - sometimes it really is that simple - with the overall balance of the squad solid enough. Bournemouth, Fulham and Wolves finished in the top six of the handicap table with starts of 46 and above in 23/24, making Forest +47 a bet worth considering. Best bet - Nottingham Forest (+47) to win the Premier League handicap table e.w. at 15/1 (bet365 1/4 1,2,3,4) |
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Dunno why my c+p has forest on 46?
How odd. |
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I wouldn't touch Palace with stolen @ + 34. That handicap is nowhere near high enough, in my book anyway.
West Ham (+34) with a saver on Man Utd (+18) & Everton (+42) is my shout. |
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Couldn't back Utd with stolen money, even adding 10pts to that handicap
Without deductions, Everton got 48pts last season, so they would be the pick for me. Others with potential to overachieve would be West Ham and......Ipswich  |
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It's deff going to one of the lesser teams with those huge handicaps. Fulham, Forest, Everton, Hammers of course, all in the mix
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Lifter is right that 100pts total is a ballpark figure for winning this. There have been a few where mid 90s was enough, when the handicappers got it right. But usually they don't.
Quite a few teams came up short with 100+ ; 2 years ago the Top 5 all had 102 or more. Man United would probably need a decent title challenge to get close in the h'cap. The promoted teams perform strongest historically. It's just more likely that a team expected to be relegated will get 50+ than a team expected to finish 6th will get 80+. |
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Though last year's 3 were nowhere near
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Thanks for the info, tobermory - I've only been playing the last two seasons, but it's an interesting market.
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Hndcp Points Diff on last season
Leicester 51 ~~~ Ipswich 50 50 ~~~ Southampton 50 ~~~ Notts Forest 47 -3 Wolves 42 -6 Everton 42 -6 Fulham 42 -4 Brentford 42 +2 Crystal Palace 41 -7 Bournemouth 39 -11 West Ham 34 -4 Brighton 32 +2 Aston Villa 24 -8 Tottenham 20 -6 Newcastle 19 +1 Man Utd 18 +4 Chelsea 16 +3 Liverpool 9 -3 Arsenal 2 -8 Man City 0 0 |
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Seems to me they've given Man City every chance to go from bottom to top this season...
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But, as said, normally one of the promoted sides gives you a good run for your money and an opportunity to trade out.
I'm going with Leicester and Southampton with a saver on Man City |
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Man City finished just 9 points off Villa, eight off Arsenal and 7 off of Bournemouth at end of last seasons handicap.
They are available at 48 on here (was higher!...) and that's about two to three times the price of most of the others and over 5 times the price of WHU. Definitely looks a team that will trade a fair bit shorter even if they dont quite get there. Do have an inquiry hanging over them in January though so that is a worry and would explain the inflated odds available. |
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I guess it comes down to what chances you give city of getting 100 points this season. Personally, I think they will be slightly weaker than usual for various reasons, so to equal their best ever points total in a competitive season? Hmmm maybe 20/1? Then I think the chances of sanctions this year are greater than 50% so got to double those odds at least.
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West Ham are a certainty for this.
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Bit of an overeaction to GW. Fulham moved to 20/1 after a 1-0 loss at Old Trafford, while West Ham move from 9/1 to 14/1 after a narrow defeat to Villa.
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), Sheff U, Burnley and Everton didn't....