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By:
Racingqueen
When: 08 Aug 24 23:13
YHTL, I do not believe there is any factual evidence showing Letbys guilt in this case. You claimed there was ("Lots of the evidence wasn't opinion, it was fact.")

What is this factual evidence you speak of?
By:
Racingqueen
When: 08 Aug 24 23:13
Factual evidence showing Letbys guilt.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 08 Aug 24 23:14
Experts are there to give evidence and stand up to
examination on the facts they present.

This is put to a jury and a decision is reached.

Which facts are you disputing.

Just because some troll claims his doctor was a fraud without
presenting evidence, doesn't mean an expert under oath
cross examined by 2 barristers is wrong.
By:
Busvaldo
When: 08 Aug 24 23:16
Beverley Allitt from the 80’s,not disputing,these are silent deaths you cannot see as ordinary people.

These are not ordinary people.
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 08 Aug 24 23:43
Experts were cross examined by barristers under oath in the Lucia de Berk case.
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 08 Aug 24 23:43
Experts were cross examined by barristers under oath in the Lucia de Berk case.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 08 Aug 24 23:56
A doubt in one case does not raise a doubt in another.

You are arguing against your actual reasons but dont seem
to understand that.

That's why experts evidence is cross examined by both sides in each trial
in front of the jury.
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 08 Aug 24 23:59
You are arguing as if it's impossible for experts and juries to be wrong, which the Lucia de Berk case disproves.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 09 Aug 24 00:02
No I am not.

You really look even more stupid by making stuff up.
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 09 Aug 24 00:06
Made up what?
By:
Racingqueen
When: 09 Aug 24 00:11
Still not providing any factual evidence that you claim shows Letbys Guilt YHTL?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 09 Aug 24 00:12
Lol, one expert being wrong doesn't invalidate all experts.

And that appeal more likely succeeded due to fresh evidence around the claimed method of poisoning.

Letby's team is not disputing all the kids Letby murdered having been murdered.

They say somebody else must have killed those ones.
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 09 Aug 24 00:17
If someone else killed them she could help find the real killers.
By:
Racingqueen
When: 09 Aug 24 00:20
Please provide a link where Letbys team state someone else murdered the kids.
Thats not consistent with calling the plumber as an expert witness.
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 09 Aug 24 00:22
The cost of compo may also be playing a role in this. They had to pay out more than £2 million in compo to Lucia de Berk back in 2010, so the mind boggles to how much it will cost now with inflation.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 09 Aug 24 00:33
The babies that were murdered by Letby by insulin poisoning.
By:
TameTheTiger
When: 09 Aug 24 11:50
On day four of the Lucy Letby trial, the court was shown a piece of paper on which she had written: "I don't deserve to live. I killed them on purpose because I'm not good enough." A neonatal nurse accused of murdering seven babies left a handwritten note that read "I am evil. I did this"
By:
TameTheTiger
When: 09 Aug 24 11:51
Letby was found guilty of seven counts of murder of seven babies. She killed them by injecting them with air, overfeeding them, poisoning them with insulin and assaulting them with medical tools.
By:
TameTheTiger
When: 09 Aug 24 12:11
Studies show that for every 1,000 premature babies born in the UK each year, fewer than two die.

Of the hundreds of babies that passed through the Countess of Chester hospital’s neonatal unit in an average year, only between one and three would die. Until 2015.

In just 14 days in June that year, three infants died suddenly and a fourth deteriorated rapidly without warning. All had been otherwise stable, still only days old, but expected eventually to go home with their parents. Letby had other ideas.

Minutes after clocking on for her night shift on 8 June 2015, she injected air into an intravenous long line connected to a boy who was born the previous day, six weeks early, along with his twin sister. He collapsed immediately. Doctors rushed to resuscitate him as his mother, in a wheelchair recovering from the labour, sobbed: “Please don’t let my baby die, please don’t let my baby die.” Attempts to save the boy failed and he was pronounced dead at 8.58pm, within 90 minutes of Letby coming on duty.

That night, the boy’s father stood guard over his sleeping daughter’s cot metres from where her twin brother had died. Relatives took it in turns to watch over her for almost 24 hours, staying with her until 8pm the following day. But this was, cruelly, the time Letby came back on shift.

The little girl’s alarm sounded shortly after midnight. She suddenly looked desperately ill, the trial heard, despite having had no problems in her first 48 hours of life.
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 09 Aug 24 12:22
The evidence from the handwritten note was misrepresented. It was not written in a strict left to right top to bottom fashion, it was written more in the style of a series of unorganized post it notes. The note says "They went" before it says "I killed them on purpose". "They went" is another very common way of saying "They said". If you read the sentence as written, it is "They went I killed them on purpose". And this note was written after her interrogation by the police when they made exactly that accusation, or in other words, they (the police interrogators) went she killed them on purpose. The note is actually saying the opposite of what is being claimed by the prosecution. Read the note for yourself.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/lucy-letby-nurse-note-picture-b2202448.html
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By:
TameTheTiger
When: 09 Aug 24 12:23
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/aug/18/lucy-letby-how-did-a-nurse-commit-such-unthinkable-murders
By:
Racingqueen
When: 09 Aug 24 15:01
And this note was written after her interrogation by the police

Ron is correct. I guarantee most redtop rag readers think she wrote that before she was arrested.
By:
Racingqueen
When: 09 Aug 24 15:31
The babies that were murdered by Letby by insulin poisoning.

Typical clueless comment this. None of the children involved in the insulin cases died.

The insulin test is seriously questionable. Its an anti body test and not a direct test of insulin. Supposedly other tests should be conducted to confirm the anti body test. None of these tests were completed.
Was any other possibility investigated (Contamination of IV bag etc..) No they had their answer and worked backwards.

Even in the scenario the child was actually poisoned, what was the evidence linking it to Letby other than she was on duty.
They claim she added it to the IV bag. Absolutely zero evidence of this only a story made up in their minds to confirm the bias they already had.
By:
Racingqueen
When: 09 Aug 24 15:35
The little girl’s alarm sounded shortly after midnight. She suddenly looked desperately ill, the trial heard, despite having had no problems in her first 48 hours of life.

Absolutely the child had no problems in the first 48 hours of life. They were in the ICU for the laugh.
By:
TameTheTiger
When: 09 Aug 24 15:53
all premature babies are placed in ICU as a mtatter of precaution. Ask yourselves this. If you had a baby would you accept it if she was the nurse on duty ?
By:
TameTheTiger
When: 09 Aug 24 15:55
And do you still believe the Earth is flat ?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 09 Aug 24 15:58
Letby poisoned the kids with insulin shortly after reading about another uk nurse who used insulin to poison.

That nurse also wrote a letter of confession.

Another coincidence I'm sure.
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 09 Aug 24 16:19
football season starts today, gents
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 09 Aug 24 17:48
Letby might watch on tv, but won't get to see it live.
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 09 Aug 24 18:39
The letter of confession coincidence would only be a coincidence if Letby had actually written one.
By:
Racingqueen
When: 09 Aug 24 18:44
The letter of confession Ron....

The one where in one part she says I did it and in another she says I did nothing wrong LOL
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 09 Aug 24 18:56
Newsflash if someone says they did nothing wrong it's not a confession.
By:
Analyst
When: 11 Aug 24 23:32
I don't know if she did it or not.

There is a lot of circumstantial evidence she murdered a lot of the babies, but nothing clear cut.

What is clear to me is that all the problems associated with the Unit have been blamed on Letby, so its been a useful deflection from all other staff and the hospital.

Some of the stats used against Letby has also been manipulated by the prosecution and not fully challenged.
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 12 Aug 24 10:49
If she wasn't white, blonde with blue-eyes she wouldn't be getting a piece in the New Yorker or a Ch5 special defending her innocence. She certainly wouldn't get any sympathy on here.
By:
Emitdeb
When: 12 Aug 24 18:00
Wow!
By:
canny danny
When: 13 Aug 24 10:13
Dr Ravi Jayaram stated in court
he "virtually caught" Letby  red handed
and i virtually won euro millions too
By:
Racingqueen
When: 13 Aug 24 16:26
The best part was he never reported "Virtually catching" her despite the fact he claims the reason he went into the room was because Letby was alone with the child and there were already suspicions around her.
By:
canny danny
When: 16 Aug 24 23:45
CPS admit mistakes made during 1st trial
The truth is starting to come out
By:
Analyst
When: 16 Aug 24 23:50
Front page of the Daily Telegraph this Saturday.
By:
Racingqueen
When: 17 Aug 24 06:46
Door swipe data (the CPS c*ck up) is not worth a hill of beans. You get people swapping cards, losing cards, letting people in, not bringing their card to work etc...
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