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elisjohn
30 Apr 24 19:30
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england get rid before euros please

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By:
11kv
When: 30 Apr 24 20:26
Laugh Thanks xx
By:
Crisp77
When: 30 Apr 24 21:50
Not anymore. His best ones were with the Undertaker.
By:
elisjohn
When: 30 Apr 24 21:54
another penalty Cry
By:
layingisthewayforward
When: 30 Apr 24 22:17
Just the 42 goals this season OP FFS
By:
lurka
When: 30 Apr 24 22:29
The thread is about big matches. His record is pretty poor in those.
By:
tobermory
When: 30 Apr 24 23:52
Depends on how you define 'big matches' for Kane.

Easy to cherry pick to make case for or against.
By:
lurka
When: 01 May 24 10:35
Make a case for then.

His record in SFs and Finals is v poor. His record in NLDs is good 14 in 19 games but half of them were penalties and Arsenal were largely poor during that time. Another penalty v Arsenal for Bayern, another one last night in a SF. Scored in a Euros SF v Denmark, a rebound from a missed penalty in ET. His record against the other big clubs in the PL wasn't great either, unless you want to count Leicester.
By:
Aspro
When: 01 May 24 10:43
Not that I've checked, but I would assume that goes for all top players lurka. The better the opposition, the harder it will be for any striker, no?
By:
geeezer
When: 01 May 24 11:27
Since. Haaland been in Pl has he turned up for any big matches, his record against the "Big 5" city being the 6th is awful, Didt score in last yrs champs league final, Kane is a very good Striker!
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 01 May 24 14:54
Goals against big 6


NAME             G     M     MIN     START     G/M    
Alan Shearer    56    129    11,314    126    0.43                               
Wayne Rooney    45    135    10,635    117    0.33                               
Sergio Agüero    44    75    5,630    69    0.59                               
Jamie Vardy    43    98    7,617    85    0.44           
J Hasselbaink    41    81    5,793    66    0.51                               
Mohamed Salah    40    69    5,641    64    0.58                               
Harry Kane    39    81    7,007    78    0.48                           
Thierry Henry    34    61    5,181    57    0.56                               
Dion Dublin    34    92    7,047    79    0.37                               
Robbie Fowler    33    90    6,386    70    0.37                               
Andrew Cole    32    109    8,470    95    0.29                           
Darren Bent    31    76    5,287    56    0.41                           
Les Ferdinand    31    93    6,907    78    0.33                               
Sadio Mané    29    79    6,196    71    0.37       
Robin v Persie    28    75    5,554    61    0.37                           
Jermain Defoe    28    136    8,646
By:
Aspro
When: 01 May 24 15:41
That puts it a little more in perspective
By:
JayTrumpOldTomDubbl
When: 01 May 24 16:05
Top man brilliant striker, and indeed a very good all rounder. Pity he didn't opt for Ireland. That would have quietened a lot of the bashing.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 01 May 24 16:12
how can you compare big 6's across eras?

When people say Kane doesn't turn up for big matches, they think of missing the penalty against France, being anonymous in the CL final (was barely fit tbf), games against top 4-6 opposition throughout the season is not really what determines turning up for big games, it's the critical games, like Mbappe who scores hat tricks in World Cup finals and  a pen when it mattered.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 01 May 24 16:13
You can go back through the era's and pick out any top England player who didn't turn up in the match where England were knocked out, because they were knocked out
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 01 May 24 16:34
Mbappe scored a hat trick and they lost.

But he was quiet whilst Argentina dominated.

Had he turned up from start he wouldn't have scored
a hat trick and Messi wouldn't have won a world cup, perhaps.

Tough to decide, innit, did Bobby charlton fail to
turn up for 1966 final or did he have a great game
allowing the battles to be won elsewhere?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 01 May 24 16:38
BTW, I've been critical of Kane in the past in latter
stages of tournaments for England. But, he gets
special attention and others need to step up, too.

Easy to direct frustration at him, but he's a great
striker, finisher,

Still a chance to step up..
By:
penzance
When: 01 May 24 16:39
Like him or not,Kane's a class player.
By:
11kv
When: 01 May 24 16:57
Agreed^^
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 01 May 24 23:55
Mbappe score 4 in the final, whatever else he done in the match that is what you call turning up to a big game, scoring when it matters, Kane has the ability but whenever the question is asked of a player, that in itself usually tells you there's a question mark there, there's no reason why he can't score in a big final, but he's rarely played in one, and the one he did play in, he was unfit.
By:
lurka
When: 02 May 24 10:01
Kane is not the type of player who is going to fashion a goal out of nothing himself, like Mbappe can.
He is easier to keep quiet, doesn't have the pace to run in behind or the quick feet to take on and beat top defenders. In most big games it's his team who is outplayed and he is starved of service.
Largely not his fault but you can't say he turns up for these games at the same time.
By:
elisjohn
When: 08 May 24 20:49
NEVER
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