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Man City v Arsenal on Easter Sunday - title decider ?
Man City v Arsenal on Easter Sunday - title decider ?
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Just layed Liverpool, seem a bit short to me.
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I thought so too. Saw some say that Arsenal needed to win it, might turn out that way but you don't go up there looking to win in a game you can't really afford to lose. Klopp never did it in the league even tho he should have when he could afford to lose in 2019.
Arsenal might want to think about picking a tournament to go for too. Go for both and they will fall short in both imo. Don't think they can win the CL either, so they should go all out for PL. Arteta v Pep won't be as interesting as Klopp v Pep tho. Two nerdy peas from the same pod. Arteta still has some more building to do tho I think. |
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Another point worth notice is that the gunners last two games are against Man UTD and Everton ,IMVHO i can't see either of these two teams being busy trying to do Liverpool a favour if they don't require or need to win points for themselves.If the title race goes to the last two fixtures surely The Mighty Gunners will be given SIX free points.And UTD will not be doing City any favours either.
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im thinking city won't win anything else this season, madrid CL, chelsea or utd facup and ars or lpool lge will topple them
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not sure weve reached it quite yet but there comes a point when the fixtures become irelevant and teams officially switch off on the beach etc,and they might not win ,3,4,5 nil, but the title winners/contender,s eventualy get a goal to win a game,as long as their not winning it on your ground dont think this everton,utd,spuds wont be lifting a leg etc, adds up to much
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Pleased to see Arsenal standing up to City a bit better this season. Horrible match to watch from what I glimpsed of it. Draw just makes it a bit tighter between City and Liverpool for title. Prediction if no team has horrendous slip up:
89pts Man City 88pts Liverpool 86pts Arsenal Laying Arsenal to win PL 3.9 still looks like a nice profitable bet to me Bayern tie will derail them. |
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Yes I think come the end of the season Arsenal will look back at the West Ham / Fulham Double Event and sigh.
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Manchester City have a tricky Wed night/ Sat lunchtime (London) and you would imagine they need to win both.
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would it be any less trickier if it was a sat 3.00 KO ?
if they play tues instead usuing same logic makes the previous weekends game trickier, they dont walk to london  , sounds like some rubbish a sky sports presenter would say |
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Early kick offs are difficult for away teams as they either
sleep in strange bed or have hassle of travel before game with less recovery time. But yeah, it's something that happens all time and not specific to title run in. As ever adrenaline kicks in for teams in contention and helps override the difficulty. |
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yeh but if for example they play tues it reduces recovery time for tues game from previous weekend, its swings and roundabouts
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Not quite swings and roundabouts imo. When you are talking between 2 and 3 days' recovery time (with travel too), hours make a huge difference. Not so much when you are talking between 3 and 4 days or more. I don't think they should have any team playing Sat lunchtime if they have played later than Tues night. That slot caters for the Asian market primarily and nearly always has a big 6 team playing as the Asians don't support anyone else. People always blame BT for picking the game but I suspect there is more to it than that. The game could be played at 7.45 on Sat which they have done a lot this season.
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The Asian market is huge and Sat lunchtime is prime time Sat night over there. I think it's something that has arisen as the money from foreign rights became greater than domestic, never seen it confirmed but I suspect that it is not simply BT picking the game. But City have the best squad, have turned the PL into an endurance event (possibly thru financial cheating) and are best equipped to deal with it, so I have no problem with it being them.
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Arsenal
Apr, 03 H Luton .... Won 2-0 Apr, 06 A Brighton Apr, 14 H Aston Villa Apr, 20 A Wolves Apr, 23 H Chelsea Apr, 28 A Tottenham May, 04 H Bournemouth May, 11 A Man Utd May, 19 H Everton Liverpool Apr, 04 H Sheffield Utd ......won 3-1 Apr, 07 A Man Utd Apr, 14 H Crystal Palace Apr, 21 A Fulham Apr, 24 A Everton Apr, 28 A West Ham May, 04 H Tottenham May, 11 A Aston Villa May, 19 H Wolves Citeh 03/04/24 H Aston Villa .....won 4-1 06/04/24 A Crystal Palace 13/04/24 H Luton 25/04/24 A Brighton 28/04/24 A Nott'm Forest 04/05/24 H Wolves 11/05/24 A Fulham 19/05/24 H West Ham *TBA A Tottenham 27 games left... Over 24.5 wins possible Liverpool 30..70pts +42.....2.28 Arsenal 30...68pts +48......4.20 Man city 30...67pts. +38....3.05 |
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all three win- bonus for citeh on goal diff- plus 1
game is still on |
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Yeah, city had toughest game on paper too.
3 toughie this weekend... Treble is 3.36 on betfair multiples. |
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you can see Arsenal slipping up against Brighton, City should win every game for the rest of the saeson, tricky game against Tottenham but they recently broke that hoodoo away to them in the FA cup.
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fulham west ham and everton away in 7 days is a tough call for any team be hard for liverpool to win all 3
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I would price it
6/4 Man City 2/1 Liverpool 5/2 Arsenal Must say I thought Villa would have given City a harder game but - credit to Pep - he dropped their two biggest-name players and the calculation paid off. Liverpool keep defying gravity but they can't get away with giving the first goal until the end of the season. |
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Arsenal
Apr, 03 H Luton .... Won 2-0 Apr, 06 A Brighton ... Won 3-0 Apr, 14 H Aston Villa Apr, 20 A Wolves Apr, 23 H Chelsea Apr, 28 A Tottenham May, 04 H Bournemouth May, 11 A Man Utd May, 19 H Everton Liverpool Apr, 04 H Sheffield Utd ......won 3-1 Apr, 07 A Man Utd Apr, 14 H Crystal Palace Apr, 21 A Fulham Apr, 24 A Everton Apr, 28 A West Ham May, 04 H Tottenham May, 11 A Aston Villa May, 19 H Wolves Citeh 03/04/24 H Aston Villa .....won 4-1 06/04/24 A Crystal Palace ....won 4-2 13/04/24 H Luton 25/04/24 A Brighton 28/04/24 A Nott'm Forest 04/05/24 H Wolves 11/05/24 A Fulham 19/05/24 H West Ham *TBA A Tottenham 27 games left... Over 24.5 wins possible (5 in a row since first posted) Arsenal 31...71pts +51......3.55 Liverpool 30..70pts +42.....2.58 Man city 31...70pts. +40....2.98 |
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looks a good p
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ars are the value, they've fecked up last season and are now playing with a different mentality, city leaking too many goals and goal diff against them, lpool despite injuries look the ones most likely to take it if ars slip up, still say lay city
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Liverpool often look the least impressive of the three, but somehow come through with a result. Arsenal can be layed at 3.55 today, seems plenty short enough, especially with the qtr final against Bayern (who are 2.42 to qualify) looming. Arsenals record against Bayern is atrocious. I've always been able to separate betting opportunities from allegiances when it comes to gambling.
When you look at the fixtures its hard to see where City are going to drop points. Brighton and Spurs maybe but unlikely. If Liverpool beat Man Utd today they will be in the box for sure. For Arsenal, Spurs & Man Utd both matches are potential banana skins. It used to be the case that the teams fighting for survival towards the end of the season could make things interesting, but not sure any of them are good enough. |
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I guess that's what makes the exchange, elise! To me, it is incredible that Man City are a bigger price to win the League than the European Cup.
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gl with it, any other season id agree but i just think they are a touch off their best and with madrid in the mix they've got plenty on, last season they were immense, don't see it currently
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Without looking at the b/fair outright mkt., I'd go
11/10 Man City 5/2 Arsenal 10/3 Liverpool |
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Arsenal
Apr, 03 H Luton .... Won 2-0 Apr, 06 A Brighton ... Won 3-0 Apr, 14 H Aston Villa Apr, 20 A Wolves Apr, 23 H Chelsea Apr, 28 A Tottenham May, 04 H Bournemouth May, 11 A Man Utd May, 19 H Everton Liverpool Apr, 04 H Sheffield Utd ......won 3-1 Apr, 07 A Man Utd ...... Desmond Apr, 14 H Crystal Palace Apr, 21 A Fulham Apr, 24 A Everton Apr, 28 A West Ham May, 04 H Tottenham May, 11 A Aston Villa May, 19 H Wolves Citeh 03/04/24 H Aston Villa .....won 4-1 06/04/24 A Crystal Palace ....won 4-2 13/04/24 H Luton 25/04/24 A Brighton 28/04/24 A Nott'm Forest 04/05/24 H Wolves 11/05/24 A Fulham 19/05/24 H West Ham *TBA A Tottenham 27 games left... Over 24.5 wins possible (5 in a row since first posted) Arsenal 31...71pts +51......2.94 Liverpool 31..71pts +42.....3.60 Man city 31...70pts. +40....2.58 |
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Good game today. Would not overreact: Liverpool still fighting.
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Yep, Villa and Spurs matches to come will have a big influence.
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Arsenal
Apr, 03 H Luton .... Won 2-0 Apr, 06 A Brighton ... Won 3-0 Apr, 14 H Aston Villa Apr, 20 A Wolves Apr, 23 H Chelsea Apr, 28 A Tottenham May, 04 H Bournemouth May, 11 A Man Utd May, 19 H Everton Liverpool Apr, 04 H Sheffield Utd ......won 3-1 Apr, 07 A Man Utd ...... Desmond Apr, 14 H Crystal Palace ... 0-1 half time Apr, 21 A Fulham Apr, 24 A Everton Apr, 28 A West Ham May, 04 H Tottenham May, 11 A Aston Villa May, 19 H Wolves Citeh 03/04/24 H Aston Villa .....won 4-1 06/04/24 A Crystal Palace ....won 4-2 13/04/24 H Luton .... Won 5-1 25/04/24 A Brighton 28/04/24 A Nott'm Forest 04/05/24 H Wolves 11/05/24 A Fulham 19/05/24 H West Ham *TBA A Tottenham Man city 32...73pts. +44....2.26 Arsenal 31...71pts +51......2.74 Liverpool 31..71pts +42.....4.60 |
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----you-have-to-laugh---14 Apr 24 14:55Joined: 06 Jul 10 | Topic/replies: 49,856 | Blogger: ----you-have-to-laugh---'s blog Arsenal Apr, 03 H Luton .... Won 2-0 Apr, 06 A Brighton ... Won 3-0 Apr, 14 H Aston Villa Apr, 20 A Wolves Apr, 23 H Chelsea Apr, 28 A Tottenham May, 04 H Bournemouth May, 11 A Man Utd May, 19 H Everton Liverpool Apr, 04 H Sheffield Utd ......won 3-1 Apr, 07 A Man Utd ...... Desmond Apr, 14 H Crystal Palace ...lost 0-1 Apr, 21 A Fulham Apr, 24 A Everton Apr, 28 A West Ham May, 04 H Tottenham May, 11 A Aston Villa May, 19 H Wolves Citeh 03/04/24 H Aston Villa .....won 4-1 06/04/24 A Crystal Palace ....won 4-2 13/04/24 H Luton .... Won 5-1 25/04/24 A Brighton 28/04/24 A Nott'm Forest 04/05/24 H Wolves 11/05/24 A Fulham 19/05/24 H West Ham *TBA A Tottenham Man city 32...73pts. +44....1.93 Arsenal 31...71pts +51......2.44 Liverpool 32..71pts +41.....12.5 |
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Arsenal
Apr, 03 H Luton .... Won 2-0 Apr, 06 A Brighton ... Won 3-0 Apr, 14 H Aston Villa.. Lost 2-0 Apr, 20 A Wolves Apr, 23 H Chelsea Apr, 28 A Tottenham May, 04 H Bournemouth May, 11 A Man Utd May, 19 H Everton Liverpool Apr, 04 H Sheffield Utd ......won 3-1 Apr, 07 A Man Utd ...... Desmond Apr, 14 H Crystal Palace ...lost 0-1 Apr, 21 A Fulham Apr, 24 A Everton Apr, 28 A West Ham May, 04 H Tottenham May, 11 A Aston Villa May, 19 H Wolves Citeh 03/04/24 H Aston Villa .....won 4-1 06/04/24 A Crystal Palace ....won 4-2 13/04/24 H Luton .... Won 5-1 25/04/24 A Brighton 28/04/24 A Nott'm Forest 04/05/24 H Wolves 11/05/24 A Fulham 19/05/24 H West Ham *TBA A Tottenham Man city 32...73pts. +44....1.45 Arsenal 32...71pts +49......5.7 Liverpool 32..71pts +41.....7.0 Big fluctuations today... |
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City have 4 of the last 6 away.
I gey why people predict they will win them all, but I don't think they've been at their usual level so I'd say they will drop 3 or 4 pts. Though hard to see Arsenal or Liverpool not dropping anything. |
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I reckon
Man City 4/7 Arsenal 4/1 Liverpool 11/2 |
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Good win for arsenal today,
Arsenal Apr, 03 H Luton .... Won 2-0 Apr, 06 A Brighton ... Won 3-0 Apr, 14 H Aston Villa.. Lost 2-0 Apr, 20 A Wolves .... Won 2-0 Apr, 23 H Chelsea Apr, 28 A Tottenham May, 04 H Bournemouth May, 11 A Man Utd May, 19 H Everton Liverpool Apr, 04 H Sheffield Utd ......won 3-1 Apr, 07 A Man Utd ...... Desmond Apr, 14 H Crystal Palace ...lost 0-1 Apr, 21 A Fulham Apr, 24 A Everton Apr, 28 A West Ham May, 04 H Tottenham May, 11 A Aston Villa May, 19 H Wolves Citeh 03/04/24 H Aston Villa .....won 4-1 06/04/24 A Crystal Palace ....won 4-2 13/04/24 H Luton .... Won 5-1 25/04/24 A Brighton 28/04/24 A Nott'm Forest 04/05/24 H Wolves 11/05/24 A Fulham 19/05/24 H West Ham *TBA A Tottenham Arsenal 33...74pts +51......(5.7)......4.5 Man city 32...73pts. +44....(1.45).... 1.53 Liverpool 32..71pts +41.....(7.0)......7.6 |
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It feels to me like Liverpool are awaiting the coup de grace tomorrow..
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Maybe a bit easier now pressure is off.
I hope they win, to keep it interesting. |
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Me too Donny
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Good win for liverpool today,
Arsenal Apr, 03 H Luton .... Won 2-0 Apr, 06 A Brighton ... Won 3-0 Apr, 14 H Aston Villa.. Lost 2-0 Apr, 20 A Wolves .... Won 2-0 Apr, 23 H Chelsea Apr, 28 A Tottenham May, 04 H Bournemouth May, 11 A Man Utd May, 19 H Everton Liverpool Apr, 04 H Sheffield Utd ......won 3-1 Apr, 07 A Man Utd ...... Desmond Apr, 14 H Crystal Palace ...lost 0-1 Apr, 21 A Fulham ........ Won 3-1 Apr, 24 A Everton Apr, 28 A West Ham May, 04 H Tottenham May, 11 A Aston Villa May, 19 H Wolves Citeh 03/04/24 H Aston Villa .....won 4-1 06/04/24 A Crystal Palace ....won 4-2 13/04/24 H Luton .... Won 5-1 25/04/24 A Brighton 28/04/24 A Nott'm Forest 04/05/24 H Wolves 11/05/24 A Fulham 19/05/24 H West Ham *TBA A Tottenham Arsenal 33...74pts +51......(5.7)......(4.5).....4.6 Liverpool 33..74pts +43.....(7.0)......(7.6).....6.2 Man city 32...73pts. +44....(1.45).... (1.53).... 1.58 |