What was your hardest defeat to take as fan

Was actually a win but felt like the worst defeat ever. Last game of season away to sunderland, united had to better city's result at home to QPR. Utd won 1-0 , city game was still going on and QPR had been leading 2-0 when the pillock joey barton senselessly got sent off, city had got one back by the time Utd's game had finished, but then went on to turn their game round in injury time, won 3-2 and won the 2012 title on goal difference.

2006 FA Cup final
Scaloni Just ****g clear the ball into roe z you ****
Straight to Gerard rest is history

Jesper parnevik 1994 open, what could have been.

Mrs was ecstatic about the plaice money.



England 1990 v Germany is about as tough a watch
for me in football, I really loved that team.

England v Germany 1996 and Argentina in 1998.

After that I got use to us failing and it became normal and them just a meh reaction. I think they effect you more as a kid because your still fresh to it and it believe or fall for the hype train.

Southgate will never be forgiven by my 7 year old self, a weak bag of pi33, the state of that penalty and him looking like a bag of sick after missing it. The absolute pr!ck ruined my summer that year.

1990 FA Cup Third Round match at The City Ground Nottingham Forest 0 v Manchester United 1

Birmingham 2 Arsenal 2 - Feb 2008

Arsenal five points clear of Manure in Premiership. Third-minute horror tackle by Martin Taylor on Eduardo da Silva fractured his tibia and fibula, almost severing his foot off. Such a severe injury that Sky Sports television refused to show replays.

Arsenal played 10 men for remainder of match, but players were clearly affected and far from fluent. Leading 1:2 until a 95th min penalty awarded after Stuart Parnaby dived over Gael Clichy (who didn't make contact and VAR would have overruled). Having lost their main striker, Emmanuel Adebayor was in the box seat, but didn't score in about 10 matches and a six point lead dissipated, which handed lucky old Man Utd waiting in the wings the title on the last day of the season.

Pilgrims bay ffos las April 22 nd 2015 followed by Valiramix in the champion hurdle

Football 1976 fa cup final

Steve

Would that be the came that change history?

jimnast
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Steve

Would that be the came that change history?

Yes. Mark Robbins broke my heart. I was convinced it was our year. Made the final the next year but the team was nowhere near as good.

4 years ago .... 2-0 up in FA cup semi final v Watford .... 78th minute Watford (Deulofeu) score ... then last minute penalty equaliser.

Watford went on to win in extra time... the fact that they got thrashed 6-0 in final was no consolation.

Loads more with my team and with England, and of course in bets that I didn't cover or cash out. But that Semi final is the most recent

Thanks for the reply Steve

Good to see your team doing so well

76 cup final would’ve been my 2nd pick but the following years win more that made up for it considering the opposition and what was at stake for them.

Yes they were on for the first treble

Which semi did you prefer redrob derby or Leeds or maybe even molinuex in the 1/4 final ?

Still smarting from England not beating Italy...

Leeds jimnast

First season of the playoffs 86/7.

My team Oldham lost the first leg at Elland Road 1-0 , Keith Edwards 89mins.

The second leg we went 2-0 up 2 minutes from time.
15 seconds later Keith Edwards scored making it 2-2 on aggregate.

Leeds went through on away goals after extra time .....we finished 7 points above them in the league.

It took the club 2 years to recover from the result.....me too.

Note , Leeds did not get promoted.
They drew 1-1 home and way with Charlton (3rd bottom in the old first division).
Charlton won a 3rd game at a neutral venue.

The only positive was ...after already giving away Dennis Irwin to us ....the next season they sold Andy Ritchie to us for peanuts.......the greatest player my club will ever have.

Mine would have been derby redrob as I was to young to go to Wembley in 68 so beating derby was meaning I would go to Wembley for the first time.

What about Jim fryatt 626

Leeds had done us in the 65 & 70 finals jim so was sweet to do em in 77. Although the 70 final (both games) leeds v chelsea was great to watch

*65 & 70 SEMI finals

Same as Mes.  Pisses me off when a defender scores but the world-class striker draws a blank.

Beat Real and Juve in the knockouts, keeping a clean-sheet in both.

2004 FA Cup semi, AFC v ManU.
Wenger left Henry on the bench v a weak ManU side, had the chance of 3 FA Cups in a row plus the chance of a treble.
That match derailed both.

Feb 22, 2023 -- 2:35PM, lybertyne wrote:

Beat Real and Juve in the knockouts, keeping a clean-sheet in both.

I think those goals in the final were the only goals we conceded the whole comp.

Wesdag Yeah that was a big mistake by Wenger, like most Arsenal fans hated that decision. We hit the bar in that semi before lucky old Man Utd went on to win 1:0, with a gifted final win against Milwall. Then a few days later the full strength Arsenal team went out to Chelsea in CL semi after conceding a late goal in the home tie after getting a 1:1 draw at Stamford Bridge.

F A Cup Final 1986. Everton 1 Liverpool 3. Spent my whole life up to then dreaming of beating them at Wembley in the FAC. 1-0 up HT. I left Liverpool 2 months later to live in London and do a proper, professional job which took over most of life. Still here. Never ever able to rekindle the daft, limitless enthusiasm I had had for footy for 25 years prior to that day, which, in retrospect, marked the end of my "youth", or at least the start of respectable middle-age. It was certainly a significant day in my life, not just for the result.

England losing to Italy, on pens, at home, in the final of the Euros, having gone 1-0 up very early on and then sat back and given Italy the freedom of Wembley. The comeback somehow was inevitable.
That one was really tough to take.
Cwying!

Leeds v Sunderland FA Cup final whenever that was. Could not get a ticket so rented a colour TV (it's what you did in those days), turned it off at the final whistle and didn't switch it back on for a week. Unbelievable result

Feb 22, 2023 -- 4:29PM, Rigsby wrote:

Leeds v Sunderland FA Cup final whenever that was. Could not get a ticket so rented a colour TV (it's what you did in those days), turned it off at the final whistle and didn't switch it back on for a week. Unbelievable result

1973

79 Cup Final, I fooking knew it, I was screaming at the telly, don't let Brady fecking cross it

Feb 22, 2023 -- 3:30PM, LoyalHoncho wrote:

England losing to Italy, on pens, at home, in the final of the Euros, having gone 1-0 up very early on and then sat back and given Italy the freedom of Wembley. The comeback somehow was inevitable.That one was really tough to take.Cwying!

That one saved me a lot of money at the time. But ive watched that game back without the emotion and Southgate should have been sacked for that one

Italy were there for the taking that night at 1-0 after 3 minutes

Southgate.. the bag of cement that he is

You see it a lot though, early goal can fook the scoring sides plan, they tend to sit off and defend far to early

The team that concede it still have the whole game so if they dont do anything daft and keep to the plan of staying solid ,and working themselves into the game it can be a positive as the team leading 1-0 tend to sit deeper and deeper, and they start to get more panicky having led for so long without putting it to bed

Textbook example was the England Italy game

Shelbourne being relegated to lower league after being champions.

2006 Cup Final

1975 Bayern Munich 2 Leeds United 0 tops my list but being a Leeds fan there are plenty of others unfortunately

73 Sunderland 1 Leeds 0
72 Wolves 2 Leeds 1 prevented us doing the double when we only needed a point played 2 days after the cup final as the FA refused to move it
73 AC Milan 1 Leeds 0 Bent ref in Cup winners cup final

Another one that comes to mind is when Man Utd beat Arsenal 2-1 in the FA Cup semi in 1999.  It's the one where Giggs scores and takes his shirt off.  Everyone was queuing up to suck Giggs's John Thomas afterwards.  But nobody mentioned that Giggs was a substitute who came on at the hour mark.  He scored well into extra time, running against tired players who had an extra hour's gametime in their legs.  I still don't think the hype was deserved.  At the time I absolutely loathed Man Utd and the Giggs-adoration did nothing to calm my condition.  I was a teenager as well so football was a far greater preoccupation in my life than it does now as an adult.

Maybe instead of sitting on the bench substitutes should be told to do laps of the pitch during the game to ensure they are as tired as the rest of the players when they come on

So many memories on this thread involve the fa cup it shows just how important the competition was to so many.

Yeah it’s going the way of the league cup now. Got under valued with having the semis at Wembley and no replay in final. As I said previously the 2 1970 final games were terrific, although if var had been around then they would’ve ended up being 5 aside games.

Yes redrob 1970 was a great final (both of them)the day when hardly anyone had a colour tv ,a friend of my dads had one so it was there I watched both games,he and his pals were all city fans so in the replay at old Trafford we had to listen to the wireless as city were playing gornik in the cup winners cup final,

You make a very good point about where the semi finals are played part of the fun of the semi final draw was which stadium would it be at ,also no replays are a negative,it’s a real shame now the obsession with the premier league and champions league has over shadowed the fa cup .

That all said the saddest moment I felt in sport due to the pandemic was the arsenal Chelsea cup final played in front of no crowd that really hit home to me how the world was at that time.

Regarding the league cup I’m not been bias but I do think Sundays has a real buzz about it.

Talking of fa cup the commentator of one the cups most famous goals Ronnie Redford for Hereford has sadly died

Re the league cup, i think both participants would forgo it for a guarenteed top 4 spot. Barring the winners no one ever remembers who won it or cares.

I think those at Wembley on Sunday in particular the Newcastle fan will cherish a win,but yes the clubs would sooner have a top 4 finish.

Feb 23, 2023 -- 11:06AM, jimnast wrote:

I think those at Wembley on Sunday in particular the Newcastle fan will cherish a win,but yes the clubs would sooner have a top 4 finish.

Even Newcastle don't hold it in high regard if they're only sending the one fan

Was in Newcastle the weekend they lost to Scholes and co. in the FA Cup final.  It wasn;t pretty.  Their capacity for fighting amongst themselves when they lose is well known.

Was in Newcastle most weekends. It isn;t pretty.  Their capacity for fighting amongst themselves when they win lose or draw is well known.

boro away to wolves in f a cup quarter final replay , boro,s golden generation hodgson,proctor,johnson,armstrong etc, players allegedly  all fell out arguing and fighting with each other and fans in motorway cafe on way home

Has to be England's defeat to W Germany in 1970. The England team were better than the 1966 winners imo and their opening match against Brazil was quality. I was hoping that the final would be between the same 2 sides, but unfortunately, thanks to the ref and Banksey's food poisoning, it wasn't to be.

Totally agree the 70 side was better than 66 ,driver,nit picking I know but Romania was Englands first match followed by Brazil then Czechoslovakia.

And wasn't Bobby Moore amazing! I'll never forget the respect that Pele gave him at the end of their match, Bobby's timing in the tackle was incredible that day,

It was a wonderful world cup driver and that game had everything from Bobby moores brilliant performance to Gordon banks save and of course the unforgettable sight and the embrace between Bobby and pele pure class.

That Brazilian side was and will always be the best team I will ever see ,it was certainly englands best team and west Germanys best team and probably italys best yet I doubt combined they would have stopped Brazil winning the World Cup.

Moore was absolutely top class.  Without him and Bobby Charlton that side would have been quite ordinary.  And I agree - the embrace between Pele and him afterwards is one of the great sporting moments.
Bill Shankly is alleged to have got hold of Kevin Keegan later in Moore's career before playing West Ham at Anfield and told him that he'd been watching the West Ham players walking in and that Bobby Moore look tired and jaded.  "He;s been out clubbing son, you;re going to score a hat trick today"!  No Liverpool players scored that day and afterwards Shankly told Keegan - "You were never going to score today son - Bobby Moore is the best in the game"!   

Yes, great World Cup.

Loyal

Terry cooper,Gordon banks and Colin bell were all very good players and don’t forget nobby

1st time poster, I was at that Wolves-Boro game.. one of my favourite memories. Brilliant atmosphere, I remember it went to extra time and we won 3-1 (Kenny Hibbitt scored, I think) We lost to Spurs in the semi after a replay at a hardly neutral Highbury (wonder goal from Ricky Villa)

One of my heartbreak moments was a few years earlier... also in the FA cup quarters replay at Molineux... '76, I think. 2 nil up against Man Utd... lost 3-2

Sunderland getting beat in the 1987 inter-division play offs over two legs against Gillingham to send us down to the third division for the first time in our history.....little did i know we'd spend another four years down there in my lifetime

jimnast I;ll go with Gordon Banks but none of the others.
Terry Cooper was a great sportsman I';ll give him that.  Never once kicked wee Jimmy Johnstone!

Losing at home to Arsenal 0-2 in 1989 and conceding right at the end to a Michael Thomas goal and lose the league was a real sickner .

Would have won it at 0-1 still have nightmares about it.

Losing to united in the 76 FA Cup Final when we battered them was also tough - Flukey Macari goal

England losing to Germany in Euro 96 was also hard to take

77

oops yes RR 77 it was indeed

Mecca

I mentioned that game in 76 earlier one of my all time favourites the atmosphere that night was incredible.

Dragon, that match in 1989 was incredible for many reasons. The Liverpool fans were awesome that night given everything that had gone before. My recollection is Arsenal were presented with the trophy on the pitch and although the players/fans celebrations were muted of course, most Liverpool fans stayed and applauded. Within a few years football changed forever with the formation of the Premier League and businessmen (or countries) taking over our magnificent game...

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79 Cup Final, I fooking knew it, I was screaming at the telly, don't let Brady fecking cross itAngryCry

I was working on the turnstiles at that game at Wembley ...they let us watch the game for free

A lot of FA Cup memories on here. 2001, we battered Liverpool but lost to two late Owen goals, think Henchoz handled in the box but got away with it, 4 years later Man United the much better team on the day and we stole it on penalties with Paddy getting the winner, can still see Fergie and Keane standing next to each other in the rain afterwards completely bamboozled as to what just happened.

Henchoz tipped the ball around the post denying Henry a certain goal. It was in the 17th min as well and very clear cut, making it hard to understand how the referee Steve Dunn missed it.

About 20s into this clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bd0Uv8LSng

Arsenal were robbed in that final, but sometimes that happens, i.e. when they beat Man Utd in the 2005 final, despite being totally outplayed.

spot on SA

SA, don't think you finished reading my post, I literally went on to highlight the United game in which they were the better team, you win some, you lose some.

MECCA
in the 1st game on the sat 1 v 1
the wolves crew took THE TROOPER pub well known pub for boro crew plenty had tried before but that was the only time an away team took it over [:sad:]

apparently that game was the last 40,000 plus ground at molineaux
TC ,terry cochrane who i still see walking the streets near where i live,always says hello scored the equaliser in the 1st game

I heard that it was tasty at the first match ... I would've gone but for a family wedding.

Yeah they closed half of Molineux not long after the replay... coz of the Bradford fire. Two of our stands were part wooden

We only had half a ground till Sir Jack Hayward came along and saved the club, rebuilt 3 quarters of the ground

argh wondered why forget about closing sides of ground,went a few times including the replay and always remember that big mound outside the ground in the corner you could see on the tv

Mes, I always get in a rage when Henchoz is mentioned. I was straight off looking for the clip...

The Boro defeat @ Wolves in the 1981 FAC 6th round, felt like it broke up the Boro team (Craig Johnston, David Armstrong, Mark Proctor, Bosco Jankovic - all soon left) suppesdly to pay for Charlie Amers Sports Centre and the club ended in Div 3 (now 1) and in Administration by 1986. 12,000 Boro fans went to Wolves for the evening replay. I think the crowd was 44k.

Yellow (Yella) Rose was a big pub for Boro fans when we played at Ayresome.

Frontline were the main Boro crew in 1981 - mainly they just went to away games where there was a chance of what they called some chew.

Terry Cochrane I think lives in Normanby now - great little winger in 1981.

My biggest disappointment was losing 4-0 at the UEFA Cup Final in 2006 - Seville were an excellent team, but I was hoping to give them a close game after the heroics that occurred to get to the Final. It also felt like a bit of the end of era with Steve MaClaren going to the England job and Gareth Southgate retiring.

Was in the kop for that 89 game vs Arsenal, most of the kop turned around for last 5 minutes, everyone could sense what was coming. And it did, tension was unbearable. We didn't play well at all, had been on a great run up to that last game, but we were very subdued for that game. Whether it was the pressure of it all or the circumstances of the what we needed to do got the better of us. If we'd have needed the win that night, really believe we would have, because at that point of the season we were in better form than Arsenal.

i  was in eindhoven for seville game
biggest memory was boro fans including me getting tanked up from 11 in morning in glorious sunshine thinking where are all the spanish fans , we,re outnumbering them 3 to 1 ,till getting in ground 30 mins before ko and seeing banks of seville fans with huge banners who,d  been in ground for hrs
different cultures as how to watch football