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matched 1.4 as next to go
no liquidity, but hard to see him making a success of this job so they may as well move on
no liquidity, but hard to see him making a success of this job so they may as well move on
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On all evidence so far, is a Championship manager at best
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Man City (A) on Saturday
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His profile a bit like Gerrard's as manager.
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Yeah, similar to Gerrard, in that they both have massive media/TV pundit backing, and those pundits tell everyone that clubs like Villa and Everton should be really thankful to have Gerrard or Lampard.
In reality, neither of them are so highly regarded outside of the clubs they played for. |
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Both are very highly regarded outside of the clubs they played for. Both world class players. As managers, both still have a lot to prove as Premier League managers
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Gerrard and lampard never found a way to play together
for England. Suggests they may not be blessed with management material. |
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Why did Everton ever hire him?
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If they stick with him I think he'll come good, he's never had the chance to build anything, still wearing the clothes of previous managers, his attacking options are a borderline joke, he's working with blunt tools, and I say that as someone who doesn't even like Lampard. Everton can keep sacking managers but results wont change if the recruitment is still s***. Everyone wanted Arteta out a year ago, now not a single person wants him out, and Xhaka is some kind of cult hero, who'd have thought that 3 years ago when he stormed off the pitch after being berated by his own fans. If clubs learn to stick with managers they'll reap the benefits but only if they back them and stop doing things on the cheap, what is he supposed to do with a front 6 of Iwobi, Onana, Gueye, Maupay, Gordan and Mcneill, that is a weak front 6. Kind Regards.
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Weak to blame the manager.
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Was it a joke when Chelsea wanted Anthony Gordon for 50 odd million ? What a fck up the football world is today
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just a question of when not if
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Replacing Richarlison with Maupay was a big red flag. Brighton were underperforming on xG for years with Maupay. Lampard spent 3 times as much on midfielders and went with a cheap striker who has a record of not taking chances. That is not on the owners.
The difference with Arteta is that he actually did a 3 year coaching apprenticeship learning day to day under the best with a distinct positional play philosophy which the likes of Tuchel and Klopp also follow. Gerrard and Lampard didn't. |
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why sack him? support him and make it work. They have a bottom 6 squad, change it, changing the manager and leaving a bottom 6 squad only papers over the cracks. Jesse March was far lower than 1.4 not long ago and survived, Brendan Rodgers has been odds on for large chunks and still doing an ok job.
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Hopefully it be Moyes out the door Friday night
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He should have sold Gordon and bought pace into the attack
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A lot of problems at Goodison outside of Lampard. Ground is a major drain on resources now that the route to dodgy oligarch money has dried up. The FA have woken up to their spending in recent years so they're struggling to invest now anyway. The squad is now among the weakest in the league.
That said, Lampard is still far from any good. Trouble is they have to get a good manager in and the owner is among the worst in the league at leading a football club so expect him to pick someone even worse. |
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I seriously doubt Lampard looked at Maupay and thought, wow, that guy is the guy for me, also lumbered with Rondon, ffs. They are not an attractive club to go to for any top levels striker at the minute, they forked out a massive...£15 million on him, the club had no obligation to sell Richarlison either, did not need to take the money, but they chose to and bought a second rate striker in. You can only work with the tools you're given. I also seriously doubt anyone was pointing towards Arteta's Apprenticeship under Pep when he finished 8th (half season), 8th and 5th at Arsenal, every man and his dog wanted him out, it's only now people are seeing the light, now he's been given the time to mould the squad into his own shape. It goes back to what I've always said, every manager has to be given 3 years to get all the players they want in, in, and all the players they want out, out, but they have to demonstrate during that period that they have some semblance of knowing what they're doing, it was hard to see that with Mikel in fairness but the recruitment was good, at Everton it seems very poor, and it's been like that manager after manager, not really a reflection on some lack of amazing graduation process under a super coach, the players are just s***. Steve Clarke has worked under all sorts of super coaches, he's nothing out of the ordinary. Though it is definitely true Gerrard and Lampard only found themselves in top jobs because of their names.
I'd hazard a guess that Lampard will be sacked sometime soon, a new coach will come in, give them a bounce that the owner desperately wants but they'll finally slip through the trap door. Ancelotti couldn't even really get a tune out of them. He was lumbered with Iwobi, Kean and Gbamin (me neither), the last 2 signed for a combined £60 million on 5 year contracts each. Poor owner, poor recruitment, is the long and short of it, managers are mostly just scapegoats. Kind Regards. |
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Always though there was a player in Iwobi so quite pleased to see he's starting to show some form for them. Would be a good signing for someone like Newcastle to be one of the group of attackers till they feel obliged to spend £500M p/a.
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Don't see why anyone would assume Lampard didn't go after Maupay or that he was foisted upon him. Everton are in a worse position than Arsenal were after Wenger left in terms of FFP. They have to sell to buy, ie if the manager wants new players in he has to sell and there are very few he can as they are all on silly wages that nobody else will match apart from their top young players. They sold their top player and the club gave all the money to Lampard. He spent almost 3 times as much on 2 defensive midfielders and the rest on Maupay. Every dog in the street would have told you that Maupay wouldn't score enough. Maybe he knew that too and that's why he spent most of the money on defensive players. At best he's a mug who thought Maupay would score enough. At worst he thought he could shore them up at the back and get by with less goals. Either way that's on him. Ridiculous to suggest the board got him in and decide what players he gets.
Re Arteta the point is it's not simply a matter of giving any guy time. You can't assume the same or similar will happen with a guy who has only got managerial jobs based on what he did as a player versus a guy who trained for 3 years under the best manager in the world. |
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Very well put ^
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need a centre forward no matter who the manager is but got no money as the new stadium has bankrupt them
DCL more interested in wearing dresses than football boots |
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You're not following. I'm saying that Lampard's options in the forward department must have been limited considering he ended up with Maupay, they needed a striker after selling Richarlison and with Calvert-Lewin being injured/injury prone atm, if he could have Toney, Watkins, Martial, Mitrovic, Antonio, Che Adams, he'd probably have gone for any of them over Maupay but they were not available and none of them would want to go to Everton atm anywat, that's the point, the pool of forwards of any kind of calibre that would want to join relgation fodder such as them are thread bare. You make it sound like he had loads of great options to pick and choose from. As also said, this is an ongoing theme with a succession of managers here not doing well, not buying well, losing their jobs and the common denominator is the owner.
Lampard also does not decide the purchasing price of a player, I've no idea why people always put this kind of thing forward, you had that fool Richard Keys accusing Redknapp of emptying the accounts of clubs like Portsmouth when he had nothing to do with it, he asks for the player, the price is purely down to the negotiators, if they are overpaying that's not Lampard's fault. If they force the club to be hamstrung in the transfer market after running foul of FFP, that's on their watch not Lampard's. Can't believe I'm even sticking up for this public schoolboy toff. Re Arteta, I stated that every manager needs time, but they also have to demonstrate that they have some semblance of knowing what they're doing, it was a key attachment to the point I made. Kind Regards. |
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1/3 next out
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Surely gone after this
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Hopefully S.S. Lampard and his grotesque, gargantuan ego are literally puke inducing.
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Seems to think he can set up Everton as if they were as good as Chelsea.
Needs to look at what he's got and use it more wisely. |
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I don't agree with your last remark, you-have-to-laugh. Their last two results show that Everton are best set up to stop the opposition playing, it is when they are forced onto the front foot that they struggle. But I did have to chuckle acknowledging your earlier point: Lampard and Gerrard couldn't find a way to play together and that did offer a clue to their viability as top-flight managers.
Everton have to win about seven of their last twenty games and I believe Lampard will deliver that strike-rate. In SuperFrank we trust. |
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klopp/frank/rodger,s, conte,, moyesm defending in number,s cant sack,m all
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Gets a draw at Man City and loses at home to Southampton
 sack fat frank, will never win anything. |
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frank walks imo,what has he to offer maybe escaping the drop every yr ,every everton managerhas given you that and far,far better than frank been sacked
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2 down at West Ham
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Ub, that's what I meant!
(Their last two results show that Everton are best set up to stop the opposition) |
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I CANT RECALL A WORSE EVERTON MANAGER IN MY LIFETIME AND BOY THERES BEEN A FEW, VERY LUCKY BOY THE FANS
ARE BLAMING THE BOARD, THEY DONT SELECT PLAYERS TO BUY OR DICTATE TACTICS,ANYONE ELSE WOULD HAVE BEEN SHOWN THE DOOR A LONG TIME AGO |
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8/13 is probably decent value on Everton to go down
The fanbase, owners and players have gone toxic Poor Frank is the least to blame imho. Best replacement they can get at the moment is Dyche who would struggle to turn it around. Moyes has bought himself another few games at WH. Their No. 9 was posing with handbags and dresses last year as they fought relegation ffs What needs to be said is their players are awful and thats their biggest problem....not the manager When you spend as much as they have and Coleman (Great player though his career btw) is your right wing back, theres something very wrong |
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Any other manager and the media would have him hounded out of the job before now.
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He must be amongst the worst ever managers in the history of the PL, there haven't been many worse.
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