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By:
Deptford
When: 10 Dec 22 21:26
It does, gutted but there you go, we lost, got me health and plenty of Champagne
By:
Des Pond
When: 10 Dec 22 21:27
To give her credit, she did say that Bale should've been rested in Wales' second game. Laugh and she was right in a way. Mischief
By:
penzance
When: 10 Dec 22 21:27
Personally think we have the players & talent,whether we
have the right manager's another question.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 10 Dec 22 21:28
England have never beaten a top tier team on foreign soil.
By:
11kv
When: 10 Dec 22 21:28
Whis next for the hot seat ??÷
By:
wondersobright
When: 10 Dec 22 21:28

Dec 10, 2022 -- 9:28PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:


England have never beaten a top tier team on foreign soil.


can you remember last game they won when not odds on...long long time ago

By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 10 Dec 22 21:29
It’s a disgusting. stat that ibrahima

It’s actually mental

Not a single win on foreign soil when it gets going properly
By:
Des Pond
When: 10 Dec 22 21:29
At least they got further than Belgium, Germany and Spain.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 10 Dec 22 21:30
No good des

It’s now been a poor tournament sorry

Quarters is no good
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 10 Dec 22 21:30

Dec 10, 2022 -- 9:28PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:


England have never beaten a top tier team on foreign soil.


beat germany 5 -1 in germany

By:
tobermory
When: 10 Dec 22 21:30

Dec 10, 2022 -- 9:28PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:


England have never beaten a top tier team on foreign soil.


Beat France in 1982 tbf

By:
impossible123
When: 10 Dec 22 21:30
Mr Southgate is merely a safe-pair of hands. But, he's reached his professional utmost with England; England will never win anything with him as manager.
By:
wondersobright
When: 10 Dec 22 21:30

Dec 10, 2022 -- 9:30PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


No good des It’s now been a poor tournament sorry Quarters is no good


about par for what they are imo

By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 10 Dec 22 21:31
England did all right tonight, they had a go but had a weak link when it really mattered.

But we are all used to it.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 10 Dec 22 21:32
3-1 tobes, think i read that earlier. my mistake but the record is still poor.
By:
roache
When: 10 Dec 22 21:32
We have beaten Argentina on foreign soil in a World cup match however it was a group game when Beckham scored the penalty so i think you will find Argentina are a top tier team
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 10 Dec 22 21:32
mm in a knock out tournament.
By:
Wallflower
When: 10 Dec 22 21:32
How have they had a good tournament?Shocked

Beat:  Wales, Iran, Senegal
Drew:  USA
Lost:  France

Nowt special
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 10 Dec 22 21:33
sh it happens ,we looked the better team but its small margins and thats how it goes ....not as if we aint used to it..........euros next and we should have a big chance in that .
By:
brain dead jockeys
When: 10 Dec 22 21:34
simon jordan says whenever england meet a decent team who is nearly their equal, they lose and once again hes right
By:
sickoflayinwinners
When: 10 Dec 22 21:35
england are a couple of  good centre halves away from  being a match for anyone.if we had  the said centre halves we  could drop  one of the holding  midfielders and play another flair player.geroud  couldn't be stripped by mcguire or stones  the only time france got a decent cross in
By:
roache
When: 10 Dec 22 21:36
Agreed Wallflower and when you look at the stats from after 66 of always losing in knock out games to the big boys its actually quite frightening that we are so ****
By:
roache
When: 10 Dec 22 21:38
56 years of failure since 66 a very sobering thought Cry
By:
mega88
When: 10 Dec 22 21:39
Giroud is at his best, magic world cup for him
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 10 Dec 22 21:40
Get a better, more clued up manager who can retain Southgates team spirit.
By:
wondersobright
When: 10 Dec 22 21:48
agree sick...best centre half on club form flown home early seems a lot going on with him or in his life unfortunately
By:
thelatarps
When: 10 Dec 22 21:49
Got to laugh at these 'Saka is 21, Bellingham is 19 etc' threads.
This is as good as it gets boys.
They aint getting any better
By:
shiny new shoes please
When: 10 Dec 22 21:57
Morroco can beat top nations England can’t Wink
England talk the talk,  but rarely walk the walk
Fearless
By:
Des Pond
When: 10 Dec 22 22:02
I've changed channel to watch "Not going Out" on Dave ja vu
By:
roache
When: 10 Dec 22 22:03
Please can we have a route to the final without coming up against any of the big boys like Brazil,Argentina,Germany,Italy,France in knock out matches Grin

Oh hang on didnt that happen in Russia Shocked and we still fcuked it up Cry
By:
Geesyerdosh
When: 10 Dec 22 22:06
Southgate - too nice, lacks winning instinct

Kane - diving cheat every game, karma just paid a visit

Happy Days Laugh
By:
cricketnut2
When: 10 Dec 22 22:10
In my opinion, this is the best England side since 1966, although football has moved an awful lot forwards since the mid 60's. We played very well this evening, after a slow start and lost to the current World Champions, its pointless to change a manager, because it would just mean us trying to find another English manager, who may not be as good, or a foreign manager, which we don't really want.
By:
MJK
When: 10 Dec 22 22:12
Could Pickford have caught the Giroud shot which led to the corner for the goal?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 10 Dec 22 22:21
Pickford doesn't come for crosses.(not many, anyway)

Never has done, likely never will, hes
usually a good shot stopper but that first goal
was just teasingly curling away from him.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 10 Dec 22 22:23
He saved in middle of goal and would not
See % in trying to catch or palm out.
By:
badjoe
When: 10 Dec 22 22:24
By:
sageform
When: 11 Dec 22 08:40
As I expected, it was decided by just a handful of key moments between 2 evenly matched sides. What tipped the balance for me was the amount of time that England spent disputing decisions by the officials. The first goal was due to the fact that England were distracted by what they thought was a foul. It is natural for a referee to be hostile to a team that are constantly in his face and complaining. Many teams do it and they usually get the worst of marginal decisions as the referee gets more and more hostile to them. Whether or not England had a case (and they probably did) is not the point. if you are thinking about a poor call by the ref you are not concentrating on the game. England are not usually the culprits in this and it was very disappointing that they were in the "hard done by" mindset for nearly all of the first half.
By:
Deptford
When: 11 Dec 22 08:55
Harry Kane is to enter a beauty contest, he is going as Miss Penalty
By:
Storm Alert
When: 11 Dec 22 09:19
Still can't believe Harry Kane missed that penalty, especially as he knows Lloris is gash at saving penalities. Even Messi misses penalties though. England were looking stronger than France in the 2nd half and French players celebration at the end suggest knew that was a big result. I'm certain they will beat Morocco in the semi-final.
By:
thelatarps
When: 11 Dec 22 09:19
Harry Kane.
There hasnt a bigger diver in the EPL these past 7 or 8 years. He is the diver's diver.
In fact in europe, only a Juventus era Paolo Dybala would come anywhere near him for his proclivity to win a pen.
How utterly ironic that the spot kick has been his downfall.

Liverpool fans, Arsenal fans, you know I am right.

IF there has been one major failing with Southgate it has been his total faith in Kane. In all circumstances. Even when he is a marginal figure in the game.
Contrast this with Sarina Wiegman. The woman brought in to get the Lionesses over the line. Finally.
She had no truck with the bloated reputations of Ellen White and Fran Kirby and subbed them off. Regularly, around the hour mark.

Kane, it is clear is not a no.9. He is a false 9. False 9s need options to work with them. That more often than not means pace. Last night Saka was the only option and he spent half his night looking after the left back. So that Kyle Walker could 'mark Mbappe out of the game'. As the pitiful English sports media would have it.

What was needed last night was the pace of Rashford. An in form lightning quick forward.
Instead England had 57% ball. Slow possession and all they could offer was going down for penalties. The supposed biased Ref gave them two and denied France at least one stonewaller.

SOuthgate has hung his hat on Kane. Its clear he isnt going to change that.
Any continuance of that policy has to be viewed as madness..
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