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kallisking
05 Jul 22 09:53
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Anyone got any views? Feeling like putting a few quid on the home side for interest as much as anything else. Would be great to see them do it.
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Report Scamp the man July 26, 2022 8:34 PM BST
Yeah good goal
Report impossible123 July 26, 2022 8:34 PM BST
What a goal!!
Report impossible123 July 26, 2022 8:40 PM BST
Despite England leading, England/Sweden (Half/Full) is only 11.5
Report Des Pond July 26, 2022 8:46 PM BST
I feel more comfortable now, but England are a bit lucky to be ahead.
Report Des Pond July 26, 2022 8:50 PM BST
Sweden defended that goal just like England did against Spain. Got too much room and time to take a touch. Although it was a good touch, and a good finish, tbf.
Report CLYDEBANK29 July 26, 2022 8:50 PM BST
87% passing accuracy to 73% ... 10 attempts to 6.  They definitely don't deserve to be behind.  They also have a cutting edge as that was a quality finish and we've seen some woeful finishing from other teams.  A little bit lucky but they were the better team imo
Report paulypaul July 26, 2022 9:01 PM BST
This game = Massive semi Grin
Report Des Pond July 26, 2022 9:03 PM BST
oh dear.
Report Des Pond July 26, 2022 9:03 PM BST
maybe offside?
Report CLYDEBANK29 July 26, 2022 9:05 PM BST
6 goals and 4 assists for Mead Shocked
Report CLYDEBANK29 July 26, 2022 9:05 PM BST
that is some individual performance
Report impossible123 July 26, 2022 9:05 PM BST
That was soft! Lionesses ain't complaining though; 2-0 Lionesses.
Report Des Pond July 26, 2022 9:06 PM BST
not sure how the keeper managed to let that in, but never mind, it's all gone to plan for me.
Report Des Pond July 26, 2022 9:10 PM BST
I think they moved the VAR line, tbh. Laugh From the first replay, the England player's heel was well in front of the Swedish foot.
Report Des Pond July 26, 2022 9:12 PM BST
Froch coming off, has looked too slow, tbh.
Report Des Pond July 26, 2022 9:13 PM BST
lean't back and hit the bar.
Report smartpunter July 26, 2022 9:16 PM BST
Sweden players , TIRED OUT. KNACKERD
Report Des Pond July 26, 2022 9:21 PM BST
decent save, but the Swedish player duffed it.
Report Scamp the man July 26, 2022 9:23 PM BST
What a goal
Report Des Pond July 26, 2022 9:23 PM BST
back heeler, LOL
Report morpteh mackem July 26, 2022 9:25 PM BST
denis law-esque
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 26, 2022 9:26 PM BST
Struggle to see a better goal than that!

Nutmeg the keeper with a backheeler!
Report snowynoon July 26, 2022 9:29 PM BST
yes ,great goal to be fair ,entertaining game.
Report Scamp the man July 26, 2022 9:32 PM BST
Its coming home LaughLaugh
Report Des Pond July 26, 2022 9:32 PM BST
keeper having a mare.
Report Scamp the man July 26, 2022 9:49 PM BST
i  enjoyed that ...and won a few quid Cool
Report paulypaul July 26, 2022 10:02 PM BST
Really enjoyed that. Well done team. Just can't knock it.
Report Des Pond July 26, 2022 10:04 PM BST
I've got a big green on England now, but I'm still not entirely convinced. Grin The keeper was responsible for 2 of the goals, and one of them was offside. The two best teams in the tournament play tomorrrow. It's all falling in to place for England, but they haven't won it yet.
Report impossible123 July 26, 2022 10:04 PM BST
Easy peasy, lemon squeezy!
Report CLYDEBANK29 July 26, 2022 10:05 PM BST
Personally think England and Spain are the 2 best teams in the tournament
Report brentford July 26, 2022 10:12 PM BST
Germany were very average against Austria and got over credited for the Spain win..France, England, Germany and Spain all been decent and not a lot between them but no one been more effective than England to this point...
Report impossible123 July 26, 2022 10:31 PM BST
France find it difficult to score; Germany were lucky against Spain. Lionesses are the best - they can score. And, they have the best tactical manager. Maybe the FA ought to appoint her to manage the men too.
Report Des Pond July 26, 2022 10:37 PM BST
It does look like England are destined to win it, tbf. Although they've played quite poorly at times, especially in the first half against Spain and in the first half hour or so tonight. They've had the rub of the green a few times, and profited from some defensive mistakes and poor goalkeeping, but they've been able to switch things up with effective substitutions, and have retained their belief right to the end. They have an extra day to prepare and, with the crowd behind them, they will be hard to stop. But, let's see how they get on against quicker attacking players and better defenses and maybe a half-decent goalkeeper.
Tomorrow's game should be a good one hopefully.
Report CLYDEBANK29 July 26, 2022 10:51 PM BST
This was from the group stage.  There was a fair bit of bollox in the article but this bit struck me...   "When looking at the speed at which teams progress upfield with attacks against the average number of open play passes per sequence in the tournament so far, England and Spain stand out like a sore thumb.  Both sides lead the way in terms of total number of open play passing sequences that have 10 or more passes – twice as many as the other teams – but there is a point to their possession dominance, as these eventually lead to shots or entries into the opposition box over 25% of the time (Spain: 28.8%, England: 29.4%).  The increase in quality that teams like England and Spain possess on the ball have shown just how far European national teams have progressed over the last decade."
Report dustybin July 27, 2022 6:43 AM BST
Meh…

I’ve shown no interest in it till tonight, yeah good result but just feel inauthentic.
Euro semi held at bumhole Lane with 28k v the real one @Wembley with 67k
The pitch of the crowd is way too high, probably cos it’s full of children, women and pu ssey men with kids vomit on their shirt.
Don’t know any of the players, past or present and the woman commentating is whiney and hollow.
The whole thing just feels ‘reserves’ and cheap and lacking value.
Sterilised football support, it needs alcohol danger and swearing, not the ‘passion’ of kids and mothers
Report CLYDEBANK29 July 27, 2022 7:24 AM BST
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Report dustybin July 27, 2022 7:46 AM BST
It’s about contrast, seems opinion isn’t allowed anymore.

Here’s another.
Did I see the England captain wearing a multicoloured captain’s armband instead of the normal black one?
Is that because the black one represents heterosexual only experiences?
No ofc it fookin doesn’t.
Didn’t the FA say no to poppies as they were political only a couple of years ago?

Perhaps all is forgotten as the target audience is minors?
Report dustybin July 27, 2022 7:51 AM BST
Or was it FIFA
Report dustybin July 27, 2022 8:31 AM BST
I was looking on the bbc news to see if the captain had worn it, and as I don’t know which is the captain I can’t locate her, but got a glimpse and it might not have been the pride thing, but I’m sure I saw somebody wearing it.

But would anyone honestly be surprised if it had infested sport?
We have professionals who have to take the knee as though it’s now in the rules, and I read only yesterday 7 rugby players in Aus who have refused to play for one team that now has the pride thing on their shirts.
Report lurka July 27, 2022 8:36 AM BST
"When looking at the speed at which teams progress upfield with attacks against the average number of open play passes per sequence in the tournament so far, England and Spain stand out like a sore thumb.  Both sides lead the way in terms of total number of open play passing sequences that have 10 or more passes – twice as many as the other teams – but there is a point to their possession dominance, as these eventually lead to shots or entries into the opposition box over 25% of the time (Spain: 28.8%, England: 29.4%).  The increase in quality that teams like England and Spain possess on the ball have shown just how far European national teams have progressed over the last decade."

None of that shows any progress or increase in quality without stats from a decade ago to compare with.
Report CLYDEBANK29 July 27, 2022 9:21 AM BST
I think they did tbf lurka.  Was in table form iirc.  I just copy and pasted the summary
Report dustybin July 27, 2022 11:02 AM BST
I take back my reservations, the captain was clearly wearing an LGBT+etc pride armband

So I refer to my original question; why?
The non sexualised normal black armband didn’t represent alienation, so why is this one allowed?
Report lurka July 27, 2022 11:07 AM BST
Kane has worn that armband captaining England (against Germany in the Euros at Wembley, Neuer also wore one). Has also been worn across the board in the PL.

But the entire month of June was International Pride Month. Can they not be content with a whole month?
Report dustybin July 27, 2022 11:10 AM BST
First time I’ve noticed it.
What happened to the non political symbolism?
Report lurka July 27, 2022 11:16 AM BST
Historically, the men's game hasn't been very friendly to gay players and you can understand moves to appear to be more inclusive.

The women's game is the polar opposite. There is a much higher proportion of gay players playing compared to society generally.

I wouldn't quite call it political. But you can wave 1000 Ukraine flags at any match but not one Palestinian flag.
Report lurka July 27, 2022 11:26 AM BST
If the England teams are going to promote anything, the men should pay more attention to LGTBQ+ and the women anti-racism but they seem to have it the wrong way around.

I'd prefer to see none of it, sport should be free of it and a complete escape from all of it. We live in a world where it is rammed down our throats 24/7 by media and sport should offer some respite from it.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 27, 2022 1:02 PM BST
Peak audience of 9.3 million watching the game last night!
Report MALAY July 27, 2022 3:56 PM BST
i've enjoyed watching them, good technqiue and and great enthusiasm from them and crowds, sad cant that I am, ISurprised Hope they lose on penalties.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 27, 2022 4:12 PM BST
Beth mead 10/3 spoty!
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 27, 2022 4:13 PM BST
(Not recommending backing it,..)
Report crystalhunt July 27, 2022 5:14 PM BST
The whole tournament has been a breath of fresh air and a good watch. Mostly good skill and control on display and very few back passes. No diving or petulance and good refereeing. I don't give a toss what colour armband the captains wear, in fact I never even noticed.
Report SlippyBlue July 27, 2022 6:29 PM BST
0- 0 is very short @ 9.0, but skinny that for a speculative punt.
Report Des Pond July 27, 2022 7:13 PM BST
I think it could be cagey, both teams have attacking talent, but there's not much between them. So, it could go to Extra Time, just because it's a big occasion and neither team will want to concede, especially in the first 20 minutes or so. I can't resist a trade on 0-0, so I've backed it at 9.6 in the hope that it stays goalless for half an hour or so, and with any luck, till Half Time. I've also backed 1-1, which seems a likely score. I've had a very good run on 0-0's so far, so I'm philosophical about the possibility of losing fifty quid if there's an early breakthrough.
This is the first tie so far that I haven't felt confident of predicting who will go through. It could go either way, so not much point, imo, in backing either team on match odds or to qualify. Unlike last night's game, which (apart from some shaky moments for England in the first 20/25 minutes) all unfolded in a very predictable way. Lumped on England at 2.82 before KO, so can't lose on the outright. Hoping for a good game with lots of exciting football and a scoreless first half. Happy
Report moisok July 27, 2022 7:18 PM BST
resistance is uselessDevil
Report Des Pond July 27, 2022 7:20 PM BST
Moisik's loving it, I reckon. Mischief
Report impossible123 July 27, 2022 7:48 PM BST
A 0-0 draw for me. Neither team score often. A penalty shoot-out as decider.
Report Des Pond July 27, 2022 7:50 PM BST
hope so.
Report Des Pond July 27, 2022 7:54 PM BST
It could go either way, so not much point, imo, in backing either team on match odds or to qualify

Having said that, it looks like France could be a bit of value at 3.35, but I'll stick with my 0-0 for now.
Report lurka July 27, 2022 8:06 PM BST
Germans in 90 for me
Report sidthekid July 27, 2022 8:09 PM BST
5 Minutes played and 2 Suspended plays,Trigger finger on Tonight.
Report moisok July 27, 2022 8:11 PM BST
No kneeling to that wonderful profit making american organisation
Report Des Pond July 27, 2022 8:11 PM BST
France look the better side so far, but they do tend to over-play it. 0-0 falling nicely. Cool
Report moisok July 27, 2022 8:21 PM BST
W T F SUSPEND MONKEY
Report Des Pond July 27, 2022 8:22 PM BST
And, true to form, Betfair suspend it for F all. Sad
Report Des Pond July 27, 2022 8:25 PM BST
In view of that getting out now for free shot at 200.
Report moisok July 27, 2022 8:28 PM BST
commentator said ' and it was DIPPING'  how very odd
Report moisok July 27, 2022 8:30 PM BST
for me it is a fine game women play - so friendly and generous - always giving the others the ball  - makes my heart singLove
Report Des Pond July 27, 2022 8:40 PM BST
good finish
Report Des Pond July 27, 2022 8:43 PM BST
Renard telling her team mates where they went wrong, but it was her that was in no man's land marking nobody.  Laugh
Report Des Pond July 27, 2022 8:45 PM BST
1-1 hit the keeper off the post
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! July 27, 2022 8:49 PM BST
Whens the streaker coming on?

Preferable an girlie
Laugh
Report lurka July 27, 2022 8:56 PM BST
French were coming into the game a little then Germany scored. But Germany still the better and much harder-working team. The full-back was more at fault for the goal, ball-watching and let Popp nip in when she should have attacked the ball. Kyle Walker-esque.
Report sageform July 27, 2022 9:16 PM BST
Skill wise there is not much between the 4 semi-finalists but when it comes to creating chances and taking them, England are still clear best.
Report Des Pond July 27, 2022 9:19 PM BST
Germany look stronger, France have plenty of skill and pace, but not ruthless enough in front of goal.
Report Des Pond July 27, 2022 9:24 PM BST
let's have a 1-1
Report Des Pond July 27, 2022 9:25 PM BST
for the bank
Report Des Pond July 27, 2022 9:34 PM BST
2-1, good header
Report Des Pond July 27, 2022 9:38 PM BST
time wasting now, i suppose
Report Des Pond July 27, 2022 9:47 PM BST
how do these officials miss so many corners?
Report Des Pond July 27, 2022 10:01 PM BST
I think that Germany will beat England. They created their goals, rather than having them handed to them by goalkeeping errrors and poor defending like England.
Report sidthekid July 27, 2022 10:09 PM BST
I Love this football, watched every game and got 14 Winners from 14 bets, But ruined by Fara Gob**** who needs to lay off the Energy drinks, born about 30 miles from me and i need a translator for her sometimes, just Overpowering.
Report Des Pond July 27, 2022 10:16 PM BST
the English pundits are mostly awful, including Wrighty. The French pundit and the Dutch girl from earlier rounds were very good.
Report lurka July 27, 2022 10:26 PM BST
England 1.84 v 2.16 Germany to win it. I wouldn't have England favs. I think they will struggle to play against Germany like they did against Spain and the Germans are more solid at the back and more dangerous up front. It is also a more daunting prospect playing the German women than the German men for England. They have never lost a euro final and have won 8 of the previous 10 euros.
Report Des Pond July 27, 2022 11:19 PM BST
I agree. I don't think Germany would've conceded any of the goals England scored against Sweden or Spain. England don't have a defender as good as Oberdorff or a striker as ruthless as Popp.
Report mesmerised July 27, 2022 11:23 PM BST
Germans were full of divers and cheats tonight, good to see, it's the way to win games at the top level, hope England saw what cheats they were and do it better.
Report penzance July 27, 2022 11:25 PM BST
England's 1st goal against Sweden was a good strike.
Report Des Pond July 27, 2022 11:29 PM BST
it was a good strike but I don't think she would've been given that amount of time and space against a better defence.
Report penzance July 27, 2022 11:34 PM BST
Apart from Spain England have been the best team in the
competition.
Report differentdrum July 27, 2022 11:38 PM BST
I was a bit surprised England are favourites. Obviously, they won the semi-final 4-0, but they started badly and could easily have gone behind. They also benefitted from some very charitable goalkeeping. Germany's two goals tonight were different gravy. At the odds I think you have to back Germany.
Report penzance July 27, 2022 11:43 PM BST
So what have the Germans done to warrant being favourites then.
Spain gifted 'em a goal and were the better team over 90mins
when they played.
Report Des Pond July 27, 2022 11:53 PM BST
I'm not trying to persuade you, mate. You think England will win, that's fair enough. I've got a big green on England on the outright from the bet I made (and predicted on here) before they beat Sweden. But I'll be laying most of it off, as I think that Germany will lift the Trophy.
Report lurka July 28, 2022 12:21 AM BST

Jul 27, 2022 -- 11:43PM, penzance wrote:


So what have the Germans done to warrant being favourites then.Spain gifted 'em a goal and were the better team over 90minswhen they played.


I listed 4 or 5 reasons above. Experience and winning mentality gives them an advantage versus maiden finalists. They are a step up from Spain and Sweden and England started poorly against both. They beat Spain more convincingly than England too.

Not a given that a packed Wembley will be an advantage for England either. There is a lot of pressure that comes with that and the players won't be used to it. It could actually be an advantage for Germany on the day.

Report brentford July 28, 2022 10:33 AM BST
Germany not won a major tournament for 9 years  (6 if you want to count the Olympics)  so not sure that has much bearing on this group of players as a whole...and the pace of change in the womens game is much higher than the mens currently.

Austria hit the woodwork 3 times against Germany in the quarters and had them wobbling in the first 20 mins of that game generally,  so as ever one can pick and choose a bit to make the case...

Germany have certainly proved very difficult to create clear chances against (ironically Austria did as much, probably more than any against them) both Spain and France struggled to..

England have more ability to play at tempo than Spain especially in transition, they also have a better aerial threat and are far more clinical than France in the final third who had showed against Iceland, Belgium and the Netherlands that the end product wasn't always great...whilst England have now scored 20 goals in 5 games and frankly have shown that they have some of the best attacking options in the tournament (Meade, Stanaway Russo- who should probably be starting, Hemp, Toone, Kirby)

England have done enough to merit being just fav for me but it will likely be an exceptionally tight and often nervy game...and the home crowd aspect could easily become a burden if they don't start well so agree with that observation and the German's are not likely to feel intimidated by it either.
Report CLYDEBANK29 July 28, 2022 3:40 PM BST
England have performed better at the 2019 WC 2017 Euros and 2015 WC.   Doubt there are many players in this squad going back to 2013 so it's the English who have more "big game" experience.
Report mesmerised July 28, 2022 4:23 PM BST
8 of the last 10 means nothing, those players are not playing today, based on what I've seen it's very 50/50

home advantage is clearly an advantage only have to look at the men's game, only reason we reached 66 and 21 finals.

attendances in finals

84 - 5662
87 - 8408
89 - 22000
91 - 6000
93 - 7000
95 - 8500
97 - 2221
01 - 18000
05 - 21105
09 - 15877
13 - 41301
17 - 28182
22 - WEMBLEY SOLD OUT
Report dustybin July 29, 2022 8:49 AM BST
crystalhunt • July 27, 2022 5:14 PM BST
. I don't give a toss what colour armband the captains wear, in fact I never even noticed.

But then I suspect you arn’t the target audience, that is children.
It amazes me how there can be all this uproar about when and where advertising is allowed, yet gender is blatantly pushed onto children at every opportunity….at the very time Tavistock has been ordered to close and the Cass Review states they don’t know what puberty blockers do to children’s minds.
Report lurka July 29, 2022 8:55 AM BST
I didn't suggest home advantage wasn't an advantage in earlier rounds/group. I was only talking about the final and that it may not prove to be an advantage on the day with the weight of pressure and expectation that comes with it. It is not a given is all I said. The Germans will be more than happy to be underdogs with all the pressure on England. Germany press high too and England struggled to play out against Spain who also played like that in the first half.   

It wasn't the only reason you reached the final in 21 either. Avoiding the half of the draw with Belgium, Spain, France, Italy, Portugal and Croatia was more of a factor.

England have more recent 'big game' experience but have the experience of losing them all. This is the biggest yet and uncharted territory for them against a country who are 8 from 8 in euro finals.

You also have to factor in the patriotic money on here which always favours England and skews the odds somewhat but which doesn't reflect reality. The odds should be very close to evens. They will prob move the other way before KO.
Report lurka July 29, 2022 10:14 AM BST
England have started with the same XI in all 5 games. Do you think she will start Ellen White on Sunday? I wouldn't be surprised either way but that could be something that moves the prices too. 

England definitely have the more experienced manager but it's a 50/50 for me.
Report CLYDEBANK29 July 29, 2022 3:15 PM BST
Patriotic money doesn't move the market.  The only thing that moves the market is Asia
Report mesmerised July 29, 2022 5:20 PM BST
and money tree
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