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Report wisewords November 9, 2021 11:22 PM GMT
Eden Hazard Laugh
Report tobermory November 9, 2021 11:27 PM GMT
lol hadn't thought of him

Surely Real would be happy to get rid
Report ffaith November 10, 2021 12:14 AM GMT
Aaron Ramsey injury prone, past his best and on wages that way exceed his actual talent
Report rommel November 10, 2021 12:53 AM GMT
the hazard fall was truly shocking,from the height of form at chelsea(sublime),what a player he was,great shame
Report tobermory November 10, 2021 3:24 AM GMT
Real and Barca may see Newcastle as their ticket out of poverty.
Report rommel November 10, 2021 3:56 AM GMT
tobe,more cwazee money,can see it going t*** up if say just one big hitter turns them down or asks for silly money(and doesnt get it)or a few wives put their foot down about being so far away from the smoke,if youre a multi millionaire foreigner theres only one place you'd wanna be
Report jollyswagman November 10, 2021 8:17 AM GMT
sam allardyce
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 9:31 AM GMT
Dyballa, trippier, could get messy.
Report penzance November 10, 2021 1:52 PM GMT
Dean Henderson.
Report salmon spray November 10, 2021 2:03 PM GMT
Origi
Naitland-Miles
Daliot
Winks
Noble
Report Racingqueen November 10, 2021 3:22 PM GMT
Tarkowski, Trippier seem Howe type signings initially

Re Trippier, If AM are out of contention and Man Utd dont come sniffing, I could see him seeing a final payday at Newcastle.


Hazard, Coutinho, Lingard would be bad even as loan signings. These types can be toxic ina. dressing room when their careers are winding down and are the last thing the likes of Eddie need

Lingard in particular knows his contract at end of season is up so would hardly be risking injury with a final big payday around the corner if he did come on loan.

Wouldn't be a fan of Ter Stegen but a quality GK would be a great investment.

A left field signing would be someone like Steve Cook
Report Fashion Fever November 10, 2021 3:34 PM GMT
harry Kane might see it as long term project, the top 4 don't seem keen
Report Tiger Tiger November 10, 2021 3:51 PM GMT
No Premiership clubs will sell/loan any player to Newcastle during the January window, they have well and truly spat their dummies out, with influence from the bent bods at the PL of course.
Report DOUBLED November 10, 2021 4:19 PM GMT
Money talks Cool
Report Tiger Tiger November 10, 2021 4:31 PM GMT
It does, but we are only 3.5% of the total PIF investment in the UK and don't have as much money to spend as some are making out.
Report Racingqueen November 10, 2021 4:33 PM GMT
Dean Henderson.

Would be a decent signing potentially. Unreal Utd paying their backup keeper 100k a week
Report Racingqueen November 10, 2021 4:37 PM GMT
Tiger Tiger is spot on. I don't see them spending big at this point. Investment to majorly upgrade the training facility (even complete rebuild) and restructure football back office is a priority over wasting money on the Likes of Coutinho, Hazard, mercenary 3.

Being an investment fund, I don't see PSG like spending at any point.
Report Tiger Tiger November 10, 2021 4:48 PM GMT
Whatever position we strengthen in January it wont be a goalkeeper, why would it be? Dubravka is as good as any out there.
Report sofaking November 10, 2021 4:51 PM GMT
Coutinho, Bareth Gale, James Rodriguez, Paulinho and whichever other mercenaries are up for grabs.
Report sofaking November 10, 2021 4:55 PM GMT

Nov 10, 2021 -- 3:34PM, Fashion Fever wrote:


harry Kane might see it as long term project, the top 4 don't seem keen


Harry doesn't have time on his side. It'll take at least three or four years for this project to show glimpses of success. He'll be a total crock by that stage.

Report Tiger Tiger November 10, 2021 5:00 PM GMT
All of those are non starters.
Report sofaking November 10, 2021 5:04 PM GMT
Tiger, who do you want to sign?  Young players with potential?  or established players on loan looking for a massive pay cheque?
Report Tiger Tiger November 10, 2021 6:10 PM GMT
Its unclear what division we will be playing in next season, probably the Championship. Come January we will have a better insight. It will be difficult to sign any quality players with the threat of relegation hanging over us, could be that we have to see this season out with the current squad plus three average additions in January to help keep us up. Then the fun begins, still in the PL - we need a clear out - if in the Championship then keep the squad together to bring us back up. Its a difficult situation to which there is no easy remedy.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 6:15 PM GMT
Why would they work to get promoted?

We need to decide who stays and who goes, and replace
the leavers with better players. Asap

We = Howe and Co.
Report brentford November 10, 2021 6:24 PM GMT
no top players going to sign without a ridiculous premium or a far more difficult than usual release clause (as they'll be almost certainly be over payed to join)

best bet is a number of middling signings on inflated but short term contracts to keep them up and absorb that burden for the value of staying in the PL with a view to an offseason rebuild.
Report sofaking November 10, 2021 6:39 PM GMT
Winks and Alli are available if you want them.
Report elise November 10, 2021 6:44 PM GMT
i think they will have a bid at sterling
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 6:56 PM GMT
Agents don't care who fills their wallet.

Players will come if they are told.
Report brentford November 10, 2021 7:34 PM GMT
even footballers squint at the league table yhtl...
Report Racingqueen November 10, 2021 7:42 PM GMT
I wouldn't mind Winks and think Howe might work well with him. Toon are desperately short in midfield
Report Tiger Tiger November 10, 2021 7:44 PM GMT
Anyone who thinks the new owners will line the pockets of overrated/past their best has-beens are in cloud cuckoo land. The initial investment will be modest by todays standards. This is a long term project, its a five year plan, Rome wasn't built in a day as they say.
Report Racingqueen November 10, 2021 7:52 PM GMT
Imagine Howe has a serious bounce and by January they are in better form and looking in a better position. Suddenly the urgency for recruitment is gone till the summer

That would be dreamland scenario
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK November 10, 2021 8:00 PM GMT
How many footballers going boycott joining Newcastle
Eddy didn’t want answer anything about who owners are
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 8:02 PM GMT
Footballers might squint, but they like the monets
their agents obtain for them.

They ain't being asked to sign up for life.
Report tobermory November 10, 2021 8:12 PM GMT
How about Pogba then?
Report elise November 10, 2021 8:19 PM GMT
i'd imagine they'd rather have diphtheria
Report brentford November 10, 2021 8:26 PM GMT
that's the point though YHTL..who's going to risk a year in the Championship even on big money ?

a middling player for sure...a top ender at his peak ? ...really ?


obviously if Eddie gets them on even keel by the winter window all things are possible...
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 8:30 PM GMT
They won't be in the championship, they sign up for
Premier league and get a move if it goes t1ts up.

Double bubble for 15% of transfer fee.


Lots of transfers, gets turnover up too, win win.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 8:32 PM GMT
It's about ambition too, not everybody is
good enough to walk into the top team.

Man utd still attracting top players, just about,
without winning trophies.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 8:35 PM GMT
Cabaye, Ba, Ben arfa, sissoko, winaldum all joined
Newcastle in similar circumstances, amongst others
Report brentford November 10, 2021 8:38 PM GMT
you don't get release clauses typically that mean you have to sub their wages back in a top league though..and if they have that in place motivation must start to be a factor too..

I hope it works for Newcastle genuinely as it almost certainly will long term...not sure why they weren't bought up before.. I'm just looking at short term issues
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 8:42 PM GMT
They can write whatever contract they like.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 8:44 PM GMT
You hope to sign players who are motivated

That's for dof and manager.


As tiger says its a 5 year plan ( possibly longer)
If they go down then get promoted...

But hope to avoid going down
Report brentford November 10, 2021 8:45 PM GMT
That's the view is it that it'll just be money no object ?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 8:46 PM GMT
What do man United have to offer over say Chelsea,
Liverpool or City?

Nothing, but folk want to give it a shot

They want to help put man utd back above those 3
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 8:47 PM GMT
Money is an object though, and they need to
buy well, sell well, and trade well.

Buying for future,... Look at chelsea
Report brentford November 10, 2021 8:49 PM GMT
What do man United have to offer over say Chelsea,
Liverpool or City?


Nothing I'd imagine
think most probably looked at wages and CL football plus being courted by said club
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 8:52 PM GMT
Lots of them signed up with little hope
of champions league, or came through
from youth system, fantastic club loyalty.

Newcastle can't buy that, but can hope one day
to have built it.

Club has been a shambles from kids up for decades

That's got to massively improve
Report brentford November 10, 2021 9:00 PM GMT
well City are the only ones who could really point at young player development with any pride..thought you meant players who had joined in general..
Utd especially has been a dreadful advert of in house development post the obvious class of '92
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 9:08 PM GMT
I did mean players they had signed, but you can't ignore
the man utd youth development which has been brilliant.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 9:10 PM GMT
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/manchester-united/jugendarbeit/verein/985

..
Report brentford November 10, 2021 9:10 PM GMT
name the world class players United have developed post the '92 brigade yhtl ?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 9:19 PM GMT
Pogba, rashford, lingard, greenwood...

Must be more,...
Report brentford November 10, 2021 9:21 PM GMT
well 3 of them aren't world class and the other was developed by Juve essentially because he wasn't playing first XI football with any regularity before regressing back at Utd..
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 9:22 PM GMT
Well if they ain't world class then you better define world
class, because they are clearly good enough to be champions
league players.
Report brentford November 10, 2021 9:24 PM GMT
Brandon Williams played CL.. shall we include him ?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 9:26 PM GMT
Is he good enough to be a champions league regular?

How high a bar are you trying to set?
Report brentford November 10, 2021 9:26 PM GMT
feels a curious argument to me, United used to get the pick of young talent and invested in facilities to develop those talents...yet have very little top end stuff to point to that has come throught that system...
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 9:27 PM GMT
Newcastle fans would welcome lingard with open arms
same as they did willock, who clearly has potential
but wouldn't have made it under Bruce
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 9:29 PM GMT
It's exactly the point of the argument.

Newcastle have to work to get to that point
because they are not anywhere near it.

Buying in talent has to step up to that level,
as tiger says Rome wasn't built in a day
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 9:31 PM GMT
Not only do Newcastle need first team players, they need reserves
under 23s,u21s,and kids

It's a huge job
Report brentford November 10, 2021 9:31 PM GMT
think we must be slightly offset in our debate yhtl tbh.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 9:32 PM GMT
Nobody wanted to come for years, tales of bullying
and racism, and couldn't care less
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 9:33 PM GMT
It's the bigger picture Brentford, and the monets need
to do it all,... Plus what we already have, of course.
Report brentford November 10, 2021 9:34 PM GMT
Well, genuinely I wish it all well and am pretty sure it has a positive outcome..
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 10, 2021 9:46 PM GMT
It's already positive, now we are another
club trying to get better.

Seriously it's a massive improvement on whats
been going on.
Report Des Pond November 10, 2021 10:51 PM GMT
what's the betting they end up with a useless bunch of grand-standing, arm-waving dossers (a la alexis sanchez/pogba) who don't want to put in the work or take responsibility? And end up with almost as bad a team, with 50 times the wage bill?
Report lurka November 10, 2021 11:18 PM GMT
Don't think Howe will be looking for a marquee type signing in Jan. Lower-key fast, energetic, younger players maybe some attacking full backs. He'll probably go for a number of players rather than a big name or two.
Report sofaking November 11, 2021 2:19 AM GMT

Nov 10, 2021 -- 9:19PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:


Pogba, rashford, lingard, greenwood...Must be more,...


World class?  Laughx1,000,000.

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