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**** ENGLAND V GERMANY - 5PM - TUE - BBC ****

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By:
TINnotaTON
When: 29 Jun 21 11:25
cant believe this contact extension, extension for what ?? to keep doing the same thing. he even looks mr negative, as dull as dishwater and tact to match. rather lose going all out than what he brings. get rid..
By:
n88uk
When: 29 Jun 21 11:27
Yer if he gets an extension after we lose tonight, it's an absolute disgrace.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 29 Jun 21 11:28
fake team news, it's what Southgate wants Germany to think.
By:
Aspro
When: 29 Jun 21 11:31
I do hope so Scandy. Negativity at its finest.
By:
n88uk
When: 29 Jun 21 11:33
Except they were right the last 3 times with their team news and it's the same journos, they clearly have inside sources.
By:
lurka
When: 29 Jun 21 11:36
Fake team news is the type of 'tactical' level Southgate is at but at the same time he seems to be incredibly cautious and one of those managers who concentrates more on negating the opposition than playing the best football his players can.

But it might be the best course of action for him because he can't seem to get the best out of his attacking players or use the likes of Grealish, Foden and Kane effectively.
By:
Aspro
When: 29 Jun 21 11:37
It might just be they can read him like a book. After playing Grealish in both friendlies it wasn't hard to guess he wasn't going to start the first game and with qualification secured it probably wasn't hard to figure out he'd get a game, but leaving Mount out would be a strange one for me.
By:
n88uk
When: 29 Jun 21 11:39
I doubt it's they can read him like a book. No-one in the country would have called Saka starting last game, yet they knew the morning of the game. You could only know that with inside information.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 29 Jun 21 11:41
on paper england look the better team
home advantage
I think england hav been more unlucky than played badly so far
2-1 win
By:
ericster
When: 29 Jun 21 11:42

Jun 29, 2021 -- 11:41AM, xmoneyx wrote:


on paper england look the better teamhome advantageI think england hav been more unlucky than played badly so far2-1 win


Is there an antonym for synergy?

By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 29 Jun 21 11:42
it's ok in the groups, keep the journos happy to get a good press, but this is Germany in the knockouts, really going to give away his team news 25 hours in advance, doubt it
By:
Aspro
When: 29 Jun 21 11:45
Excuse my ignorance, but aren't the press around during training sessions? Perhaps they put two and two together with Saka.
By:
n88uk
When: 29 Jun 21 11:46

Jun 29, 2021 -- 11:42AM, scandanavian_haven wrote:


it's ok in the groups, keep the journos happy to get a good press, but this is Germany in the knockouts, really going to give away his team news 25 hours in advance, doubt it


Who says it's Gareth though?

By:
ericster
When: 29 Jun 21 11:47
A wag, or one of the players' hairstylists?
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 29 Jun 21 11:48
it's all a rouse, Southgate knows team info leaks, knows training sessions are watched, leading everyone down a garden path - possibly, not for definite
By:
Aspro
When: 29 Jun 21 11:49
You may well be right n88uk, but like a few others on here, I'm not yet convinced.
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 29 Jun 21 11:55
hopefully there will be plenty of FAT KN0BHEADS throwing their pints of corona lager tonight.......  Laugh
By:
lurka
When: 29 Jun 21 11:59
Low will prob just make a tactical change after 5 mins if Southgate tries to pull a fast one and be like 'your move Gareth'.
By:
n88uk
When: 29 Jun 21 12:16
People are giving Southgate too much credit if they think he can fake the opposition leaking fake team news. We will defo play 5 at the back.
By:
lurka
When: 29 Jun 21 12:29
He'd have played 5 anyway i'd imagine given Germany's full backs
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 29 Jun 21 12:36
yeah
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 29 Jun 21 12:54
Under 2.5 is 1.85, looks a reasonable price to me. Get to say 30/35 minutes goalless and trade.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 29 Jun 21 13:08
Southgate is no tactical genius Laugh
By:
11kv
When: 29 Jun 21 13:19
Im hoping they ignore Southgate and Holland and just go and play...
By:
1st time poster
When: 29 Jun 21 13:28
IF THEY IGNORED THEM THE MAJORITY OF players wouldnt be able to find their way out of the dressing room
By:
kincsem
When: 29 Jun 21 13:29
n88uk29
We will defo play 5 at the back.

It might be 10 at the back. Laugh
The shopping is done, about 500,000 calories bought.
Let the buii5hit begin, followed by the game.
By:
11kv
When: 29 Jun 21 13:36
Plenty of hangers on to point them to the pitch 1st time poster
By:
Emitdeb
When: 29 Jun 21 13:42
This will be the 5th time we've met in a championship match since 1966... The score so far is 4-0 to Germany... Sad
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 29 Jun 21 13:50
To be fair nearly all of them have been close bar 2010 (4-1) and even that one we had the Lampard ghost goal which would have made it 2-2 going into HT

England are slow and predictable under Southgate though
By:
ericster
When: 29 Jun 21 14:00
I think we need for England to behind early, only way we're going to see them have a go imo.
By:
ericster
When: 29 Jun 21 14:01
ffs! for England to GO behind even.AngryAngry
By:
sixtwosix
When: 29 Jun 21 14:05
I have little doubt we will win this.
A very average german team will not be able to handle our attackers.

A final appearance is the very least this team should manage.

soft half of the draw - Germany , Ukraine , Sweden , Denmark , Czech Republic .....you could not ask for an easier set of possibles.
Spain - very poor defence
Italy - beat up a lot of poor teams
Belguim - De Bruyne and Hazard serious doubts
Switzerland - wish our players had their patriotic run through a brick wall mentality.
By:
lurka
When: 29 Jun 21 14:05
The Germans don't see this as a rivalry like the English do. They see England as a team they want to meet because their record is so good against them. To them Holland is their real local derby and the Italians are their real historic rivals in Europe.
By:
lurka
When: 29 Jun 21 14:08
Don't see how anyone can have 'little doubt' England are going to perform, never mind their attackers. What are you basing that on? Names and reputations rather than how they actually play together? Because it can't be based on actual recent performances.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 29 Jun 21 14:12
sky reporter seemed pretty sure Gareth will go with 3 at the back
By:
Giuseppe
When: 29 Jun 21 14:13
how hot is it going to be for this?
By:
kincsem
When: 29 Jun 21 14:16
If history teaches us anything ... the Euro records
Germany: 1,2,1,5,3,2,1,15,12,2,3,4
England: 3,6,7,7,3,11,5,5,12
England had 5 "did not qualify for the Euros", Germany 1
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 29 Jun 21 14:17
this game will come down to tactics, Portugal boss was clueless as to how Germany would play, Southgate at least will be prepared for their overloading wing backs, I think it'll be a tight game but predict 2-0 England, but yes would not surprise me either way.

Btw, Roy Keane, anyone else notice how passionate he talks about England, he gets so angry and in to it you'd think he was an English supporter, I actually think he secretly is.
By:
ericster
When: 29 Jun 21 14:19
Roy Keane just cannot fathom how so many good players can play so poorly and is obviously perplexed by that.
By:
Aspro
When: 29 Jun 21 14:22
Roy Keane grew up supporting Spurs
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