Sites crashed

Useless ain't the word

back on. but can't place bets

quite so Des. Things might improve !?

No markets settling yet

I was prevented from placing bets for 20 minutes during a game last week, but but no one else seemed to be affected.

i cant place bets

Beats me why so few people complain, it can't be just happening to some punters , but not others.

Pi*s poor as usual but their idiots are on it

Fulham have been stuck at 2.3 / 2.32 on my screen since the kick-off.

There was an error processing your bet(s). Please confirm if the bet was placed in Open Bets tab

What use is that? Good job liability is only a tenner. Might be a lot more for some people

Yes I got the same thing Des

I want to LAY Fulham.

As long as it stays 0-0, I'm ok, but it will be very annoying if there is a late goal, and I've not been allowed to lay off.

Good to see that planned maintenance went well this morning...

Don't you lads think this is sabotage rather than anything else?

incompetence seems more likely. And the fact that they don't care about customers.

It does go on and on

May 10, 2021 -- 8:20PM, Des Pond wrote:

As long as it stays 0-0, I'm ok, but it will be very annoying if there is a late goal, and I've not been allowed to lay off.

Indeed Des Pond. That is my exact situation too. I feel very frustrated and let down by betfair, yet again...........................

I think it could be sabotage, it happens far to often

You're aware of this USA oil pipeline issue, I take it?

yep, and there seems to be no comeback, pushkin. which is the most frustrating thing.

If it was sabotage they would tell us that as it gives them someone to blame. The fact it happens all the time and all we get is the usual "our engineers are working on it, we apologise for the inconvenience etc etc" suggests pure incompetence.

The fact they closed all their methods of contact except the laughable "livechat" is an indication of their thought processes.

Number9 its all about to go down, "the pandemic will seem like a disruption when we do the next stage" < Klaus Schwab

But that's another subject

Sabotage can mean something more in house, thommo

Thommos, there isn't any firm on this planet who wants to admit their internet security is crap, and I can't think of any reason at all betfair would be any different. Of course it's a "technical issue", beats "We've been hacked by people cleverer than us " don't you think?

By the way, SS, you can count me completely out of your fantasy conspiracy theories. Still think the USA election was stolen, don't you?

"Most products on our site are now back up. Our tech team are working on the Exchange now. We apologise for the delay here. We will continue to provide updates as the situation progresses."

We have been knowing this for quite a while.

Think I will stick with a lack of investment as the number of bets processed increases, reduction in the number of IT staff and the use of more and more third parties to operate various parts of the site.

Thommos, neither of us know, neither will we ever know, whichever it is.

SS don't you get tired of conspiracy theories?

Any chance we'll get a bet on this match before the 90 are up?

Better stop replying to my comments then number9, block me

Clown

there's the goal. I wonder what price I would've been able to lay my bet off at. If the fecking site was working!!

good job they suspended it

"Clown" I love your intellectual approach, mate. A really well-argued comment.

I've got a fiver on Burnley at 365, so watch it end 1-1, and I'll lose twice.

I think 1-1 would be a reasonable call, unfortunately, Des

Still not working, went to lay fulham at 2.32, just before the goal went in, thinking, that is a ridicously short price for a side that can't score a goal.

Best not get a bet on, lads, cos it'll crash and there'll be no laying-off. Unless you don't intend to lay off, of course, each to their own

May 10, 2021 -- 8:37PM, Des Pond wrote:

there's the goal. I wonder what price I would've been able to lay my bet off at. If the fecking site was working!!

its ridiculous. I am sitting on a lovely winning bet and unable to green up for a handsome profit.

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo frustrating. Why do I put up with this crockof sh1t.

probably, but if Burnley get a second they'll pay out early, would be a bit of compensation at least. we'll see.

GL Des

I hope so too Des Pond....................

Just as I speak, at least I've won 12 quid at the bookies, if not on here.

you're right no9 - will leave this alone now even if they get their act together

ugh so annoying 0-2 now - useless bf

May 10, 2021 -- 8:44PM, Des Pond wrote:

probably, but if Burnley get a second they'll pay out early, would be a bit of compensation at least. we'll see.

Des Pond, money saved then, as Fulham won't be scoring 2 goals in 1 game

best to be cautious, I think this happened to me during a game last week, although nobody else seemed to be affected, which would suggest it could easily happen again.

Im asking myself, is this the time to finnally drop betfair. I cant just with live the fact being caught in the middle of a trade and without any chance to get out. F*** you betfair.

cheers, cricketnut. I think they pay out early if your team goes 2 up.

are bettdak any better, though? consensus seems to be that liquidity is poor. but if enough people defect it could improve .

don't forget you can lay off using the sportsbook

@Giuseppe - I have in fact done, what you advice. There is unfortunately an amount that I set on hold inplay and that I cant remove. So only the part not on hold I have arbed at the sportsbook.

arbing is all very well, but you have to cover alternative scores at poor prices, It's nowhere near as effective as laying off after the price has dropped

if you hedge 0-1, 1-1 and 1-0 to cover your 0-0, you could end up losing even more if it goes 0-2 or 0-3 or any other score.

Still no bets can be accepted

working now

it was back for a second, I was just about to readjust when they supended it again.

Don't go there, Giuseppe, for your own good, unless you don't intend to arb, in which case you've got nothing to lose.

see what Des posted, simultaneously

suspended again, couldn't be more infuriating if they tried!

Des, give it up, mate, and keep your blood pressure sensible. You know enough to know there will be thousands of betting opportunities when the machine is fixed. Cool it (for your own good)

yes, number9, you are right.

Good man. Earlier tonight I had a bet I was ready to close when the site crashed. It never came back until the match was over, in this particular case I got lucky, but I know exactly how you're feeling once you've put a bet on and can't organise it. But don't, now, think of a new bet.

Only a small amount in my case, but there must be some punters with much larger amounts that they can see diappearing before their eyes, unable to do anything about it.

True Des but nothing we can do for them.

what the **** is going on with porto markets

Rio the site's in strife, keep off.

it's back now, but too risky to get involved

Seems fine now

its back on

**** it too risky for any big bets

Plenty betting opportunities in the future, lads, take a pull.

Bye bye Fulham

EPL should make relegation clauses compulsory in all contracts, saves the need for parachute payments which are incredibly disruptive of Championship club finances.

Wow! I just thought of that, and the more I think about it the better it gets! (pats own back)

crashed again, so just as well to stay away.

Sporting Index also down

Interesting, Aspro

totally fcuked

Compulsory relegation clauses would mean bottom half clubs would have to pay players more in wages to compensate for the risk of relegation, thereby making it harder for them to compete with other PL clubs

lurka, nothing's perfect. Make this clause compulsory for Man City. Liverpool etc, in other words every contract, as I suggested. Covers your point, I believe

I'm done tonight can't risk any money on these games now

Wise call, SS.

If its just a bet your doing to ride out regardless that's fine but you can't risk trading on this site lately

I had the luck despite I was caught in some trades without the possibility to trade out and I had a certain amount on hold, when the system broke down and I could not remove it. I did not do the part arbitage trade on the sportsbook correctly, the amount was to high. Therefore I expected a loss. I was saved because of the reason I apparently have earned some bonus points to use on the sportsbook without my knowlegde, because I am only very rarely using the sportbook. So it ended up with a little surplus on the day, but I admit, I will so absolutely have prefered not to experience such "an excitement" this evening..

May 10, 2021 -- 9:47PM, Number9 wrote:

lurka, nothing's perfect. Make this clause compulsory for Man City. Liverpool etc, in other words every contract, as I suggested. Covers your point, I believe

No it doesn't. My point referred to bottom half clubs, yours referred to the two favourites for the league.

For a club coming up into the PL like Fulham, they would have to offer a player extra money to join them compared to a mid-table club as the risk of relegation, and a pay cut, is greater. That makes it harder for them to compete with other PL clubs and means it's even more likely that they will go down as they won't be able to afford players they otherwise would. That distorts competition in the PL and makes it even harder for them to stay up.

May 10, 2021 -- 10:14PM, lurka wrote:

May 10, 2021 --  8:47PM, Number9 wrote:lurka, nothing's perfect. Make this clause compulsory for Man City. Liverpool etc, in other words every contract, as I suggested. Covers your point, I believeNo it doesn't. My point referred to bottom half clubs, yours referred to the two favourites for the league.For a club coming up into the PL like Fulham, they would have to offer a player extra money to join them compared to a mid-table club as the risk of relegation, and a pay cut, is greater. That makes it harder for them to compete with other PL clubs and means it's even more likely that they will go down as they won't be able to afford players they otherwise would. That distorts competition in the PL and makes it even harder for them to stay up.

And when dropping back down they get a massive financial advantage over about 18 or 19 Championship clubs, thus yo yoing year in year out and the same clubs being promoted back

Next season its probably going to be Fulham and WBA being top 2 comfortably and Sheff United possibly making the playoffs and going up through that if luck is on their side

The 3 relegated side are going to be Watford, Norwich and the winners of the playoff are going to finish rock bottom with not a cat in hells chance

Its a joke now

How is that going to change if you have relegation clauses? The clubs who go down have to sell players, the championship becomes more competitive, yes, but only because the best teams lose players and get worse. Then the teams who come up are even lower standard and have even more chance of going back down.

You'll get the same in the PL with relegation clauses, you'll effectively be penalising teams who are favs for relegation as they will have to pay a premium to get players to join them compared to established PL clubs. You'll effectively be penalising them financially at the start of the season during the transfer window and then penalising them again at the end by relegating them. It will create a massive divide between top and bottom half PL teams and make it even more of a closed shop in the PL, harder for established PL teams to get relegated and even harder for promoted clubs to stay up. The best players on teams who barely survive will be looking to move to better PL clubs to avoid the possibility of relegation clauses and a pay cut the next season etc etc

You haven't thought through the consequences.

The relegated teams don't have to sell players because of the parachute payments

Norwich and Watford literally kept their squad and added to it, Bournemouth also didn't sell anyone, they let Ibe go on a free (cost them 20m?) which is exactly what the EFL is chasing Derby for right now ffs, letting players go for less than paid for them.. the whole system stinks to high heaven.

Here we go again

It's gotten so bad now that the spread companies are running a spread on how many times Betfair crashes today. Current price 5-7 and I'm a buyer!

Ohhh dear, now what? just as well I'm not playing.

Luckily Sportsbook survived

As it does.

11.55 Fairview. Looking at no to be placed market and noticed Africas Rock 1/100 3pl and same 4pl..............

^^ note the above prices were to be placed ^^

looks to be back now

Typical I was tossing up between lay OWNYOURFATE or Place AL QAASIM, hanging on to see the markets. Oh well if you hang around fate/betfair pokes you in the eye.

Lol AL FIE.