Gillette Soccer Saturday, now a complete shambles

and ramming their politics down your throat with out any debate or counter argument CONSTANTLY

How very dare you

Who were the 4 pundits today, have not seen the show in over a year

Hardly any football on Saturday afternoons these days.

Haven't watched it in about 3 years, they started overdoing the shouting/gags by the end esp the Kamara gags

But I can only imagine the utterly dumbed down, politically motivated tripe they produce now

But it was a must watch back in the mid 2000s personally

Sat there with my accum slips from the William Hill bookies down the road, I'd go and buy my drinks and nip in to put my bets on around 12, go a run, cool and then watch that for the footy at 3

Miss those days

so nobody knows who the pundits were then

twas Merse Johnson and Sherwood who came out with classics like Hoddle and Gascoigne wudnt get in todays Spurs team as well as the double act of "comedian" Tom Allan with the openly gay reporter at the Charlton game - no doubt in support of Rainbow Laces week - twas and is a tough watch these days even if just flicking in and out of it

Dec 12, 2020 -- 9:24PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:

so nobody knows who the pundits were then

Haven't seen it in years but I assume some diversity hires.

Gascoigne wouldn't get in the Spurs team? nothing like talking down naturally gifted English players eh

Although I still struggle to forgive that 96 miss V Germany, if only he was a kebab lighter

Had to put BT on with the debacle at Charlton.....should have known what was coming when the "double act" interviewed Lee Bowyer pre game and asked "are you gunna play a rough diamond with one in the hole" s**** s****.....made me feel poorly

sni gger ffs

The.newly appointed token over 60 white male Tony Pulis lasted for less than 2 months as a Sky pundit before leaving to take Sheffield Wednesday to the promised land of League One.

Was always a must watch, sadly gone to pot, they have employed people because of their race and gender, not their ability to make the show work, its a fooking scandal but no suprise, Sue Smith? Shocking on every count, sums up the koonts at Sky

Same at the BBC though

And Micah Ricahards is a nice fellow don't get me wrong, would be a laugh to have a pint with but... good grief is the only phrase to sum him as an "expert pundit".

State of the world now.

No one gets the job cos of their ability.

We moan about the majority are on there because of what they look like.

But one of the worst there has ever been is still there each week, Paul Merson.

The worst live match analysist ever.

But we/ they all know what would happen to him if he lost this gig......

And looking back, how good were Le Tiss, Tommo and Champagne Charlie compared to the shower we have now.

Jeff must wonder where it all went wrong..

I wonder how the viewing figures are compared to last season. The pair at the charlton match today were cringeworthy every time they went for an update

I think Jeff will be away soon

I wonder how the viewing figures are compared to last season. The pair at the charlton match today were cringeworthy every time they went for an update

I think Jeff will be away soon

Come gather 'round, people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone
If your time to you is worth savin'
And you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'

I always thought Merson was given a job beacuse they felt sorry for him ...he was a terrible pundit and a bad watch .

Le Tiss ,Thompson and Charlie were all OK

some black pundits are really good ,others OK ,some are terrible  ...but every company/organisation now has to hire them in numbers to fit the criteria  ... every single advert has a token black guy  ...it's all a bit cringeworthy really

but then again , Eastenders and Fools and Horses and others were very seriously under numbered  back in the day  with far too many white faces ,even during crowd and market scenes  ...that was bad too

the directors obviously didn't have a clue

It's affirmative action. 

talk talk commentary on everton v chelsea  last night , they had a commentator and 2 pundits doing the match , trevor sinclair and paul parker

https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/bbc-sport-presenter-jacqui-oatley-hits-out-footballs-mans-game-letter-sheffield-sNews.

BBC sport presenter Jacqui Oatley hits out at 'football's a man's game' letter in Sheffield Star
BBC sport presenter Jacqui Oatley MBE has criticised a Sheffield Star reader who described football as a 'man's game' in a letter to the paper.
By The Newsroom
Saturday, 13th January 2018, 1:57 pm
Updated
Saturday, 13th January 2018, 2:00 pm

Jacqui Oatley.
Jacqui Oatley.
The journalist and Women in Football ambassador spoke out after Ken Tomlinson bemoaned the number of female presenters and reporters covering football matches.

In the letter, published in today's Sheffield Star, Mr Tomlinson told how he used to enjoy watching Final Score on the BBC but now gives it a miss "because it irritates me to listen to reporting coming from around the grounds by at least, on some occasions, as many as six women reporters."

Elsewhere, he said: "Even in the studio they do punditry. You can see the male pundits ill at ease. They don’t sound right and put it over like the men.

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"The Premier League and other major games sell globally, and the BBC have some very good men commentators who sell the game. Put a woman behind the microphone and it’s killed it stone dead.

"It’s a man’s game."

But mum-of-two Jacqui,who in 2007 became the first female commentator on BBC1’s Match of the Day, has had her say on the matter by posting to more than 128, 000 followers on Twitter.

With a touch of sarcasm, she said: "Dear Ken, terribly sorry to ruin your afternoon but there will be four female reporters out of 20 on Final Score today, including Sue Smith with 93 England caps, but, thankfully for you, none are in the studio.

"So enjoy Radio Sheffield. Love, Jacqui x P.S. most of your facts are incorrect."

The row has caused a storm on Twitter and had been liked more than 1300 times, with over 400 retweets.

Some questioned The Star's decision to publish the letter, but Jacqui herself said she agreed that it should have been printed to protect "freedom of speech."

Ken's letter in full


There’s nothing quite like relaxing on a late Saturday afternoon with a beer or a cuppa and watching Final Score on the BBC.

But I give it a miss now because it irritates me to listen to reporting coming from around the grounds by at least, on some occasions, as many as six women reporters.

Even in the studio they do punditry. You can see the male pundits ill at ease. They don’t sound right and put it over like the men. I’m sure many more that watch it feel likewise.

I remember several years ago when, I think it was Des Lynam on Match of the Day, and a match was commentated on for the first and only time by a woman. It made headlines next day because everyone had switched off!


The Premier league and other major games sell globally, and the BBC have some very good men commentators who sell the game.

Put a woman behind the microphone and it’s killed it stone dead.

If women want to commentate, report or be a pundit or presenter that’s fine, but in your own sport

It’s a man’s game, that girl linesman didn’t last long, we don’t have them as referees, do we? It’s not a unisex team playing.


So bye bye BBC one and Five Live and hello Radio Sheffield and Andy Giddings and Rob Staton.

Ken Tomlinson

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ive known  hundreds, no thousands of women / girls , and i can honestly say ive not known one whose ever watched bbc final score/ soccer saturday .

saturdays is, the men go down to the bookies , then pop to the local , then  go to footie/ or watch game on tv, while women go shopping, we,ll thats how it used to be, still is in my household

Jesus, how did this country end up with the post-war generation being a bunch of such pathetic, whimpering snowflakes.


C'mon lads, grow a pair. Suck it up. You can't have everything your own way and whingeing about it online 24 hours a day isn't going to change it. Maybe just get over it and accept there are women and - gulp - non-white people who may be able to do the job of sitting in the stands and describing what's happening on the pitch below.

Na never happen.

some of the women are OK and some of the men are poor  ...it's a non issue . It's like the black debate again isn't it ?   

the only problem i have if a woman has a too high pitched voice  ...that's not good , and i'm not keen on very strong regional accents from blokes or  women  ...it grates

If i ever listen to radio i love listening to John Murray ,a slight north east accent and first class reporting of the game .

What's your thoughts on Steve Bunce

too much like Danny Baker 

there could be a very long list

I am a Bunce fan.  His enthusiasm for his sport(I think it's probably the dirtiest i.e most corrupt sport of all)is infectious plus he's got endless stories to tell.

MOTDx is the best football program. The pundits and guest are excellent.

If these new presenters are that good, strange how they only recently appeared

I like Jacquie Oatley ..... a proper Wolverhampton wench

Women for the most part don't watch sport unless its a major summer tournament

Girls don't like sport in general, sure they'll watch the boys make prats out of themselves on the rugby/football pitch but its for that not the actual game, they find it funny

The media keep talking about "equality" in sport, the problem is 95% of the female world just don't give a feck , they are trying to force the issue now by shaming girls into taking it up which is absolutely fooking disgusting but, hey ho they force their BS down everyone's throats so what the heck

good post, ss

How many sport channels on youtube is there from a young woman? not many very short on numbers

Most of the female channels are clothing channels, make up that sort of thing

Men and women are totally different... thank the lord

Used to love MOTD now it's just a vehicle for propaganda and they aren't too subtle about it either

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnQ2zOmb6Hg

Talking of Propaganda ......

On some level I reckon lineker secretly despises Wrighty and Shearer for their poor English.
TBF to Alan and Ian they have made a conscious effort to improve in that respect.  When they first started they were shocking

im listening to the palace v spurs match on 5 live now, when they went to an update on a city v arsenal womens match, im asking myself seriously does anyone on here or anywhere except maybe families of the players involved  etc , take any notice of these womens matches .simply does anyone care !

Coachbuster • December 13, 2020 12:45 PM GMT
some of the women are OK and some of the men are poor  ...it's a non issue . It's like the black debate again isn't it ?   

the only problem i have if a woman has a too high pitched voice  ...that's not good , and i'm not keen on very strong regional accents from blokes or  women  ...it grates

Its worse when the bloke has a high pitched, simpering voice as at The Valley yesterday

that's true as well   ...  we live in very strange times 

i've totally given up trying to make sense of anything so just accept most things now ...if something grates i simply turn it off or don't use the service unless i really have to .

I would go back 10 years ago though in an instant  ...  i don't like this current era and i don't think many people do like it...it's more a pain in the arse than anything  ,like evrything is challenging or an ordeal for the sake of it

haven't seen the Valley bloke yet though

I had to put BT on....Robbie Savage

ha ha

trouble is , everything  has to be seen now to be 'fair'

wheres the fooken tick box ? 

yep fair ...

so football with VAR is fair now ,it's so fair and proper that you have the 6th place team going into a play off when a team that finishes 3rd  doesn't go up to the EPL

life has never been fair, it never will be  ...you can't make life fair.                       
   Genetics and bugger all else decides that fate ffs 

ffaith • December 13, 2020 3:35 PM GMT
On some level I reckon lineker secretly despises Wrighty and Shearer for their poor English.
TBF to Alan and Ian they have made a conscious effort to improve in that respect.  When they first started they were shocking

Alan using ‘done’ instead of ‘did’ used to do my head in. Much better of late. It’s probably a gerodie thing.

Another problem for young women/teenage girls who do like sport and want to make videos etc is they are so thin skinned, lads can take the banter and love dishing it back out on the whole

A young woman by the name of Stunt Peg (youtuber and twitter poster) just can't handle the "kitchen" jokes, she gets (and its bound to happen obviously) a lot of stick on social media and she can't accept its a male trait, she's suffered from depression because of it

Women want to fit in, its not in their nature to see abuse as some sort of challenge like the lads do, and lets be honest sport in general is a male thing, its in our nature to seek out competition

Young women need to know if they enter the pit of football "banter" they can expect to be absolutely pillered with abuse from other fans. Just stick the poor fookers near an away end back in the 80s as my grandad use to say, they'd soon find out if they had it in them to accept the "banter challenge", almost feel sorry for the cops that had to deal with those lot... almost .

Abuse is seeked out by some blokes, Millwall fans see abuse as a right of passage for a riot

lots of women genuinely like football, though they do tend not to be feminine types, don't get many girly girls at the football

womens football is massive now  ... you only have to  look on the BBC sports pages and read the Guardian  to see how massive it actually is  .... it has loads of coverage .

'Man City beat Arsenal with last gasp winner'   

  to think City only played yesterday as well , 2 games in less than 24 hours 

seriously, what kind of contract/ wages do these girls get ?   is it above minimum wage

45 minutes each half with no ad breaks........

....or soaps, 30 mins usually with an ad break, or reality tv BS, 60 mins with loads of ad breaks. Attention span, innit?

It really is pants nowadays,  Clinton thinks he is a sage, Merson an immature child, and the rest of the sky lap dogs, no opinions unless they are woke opinions.

I used to like it, but don't watch it anymore.