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Report pushkin99 August 29, 2020 2:04 PM BST
Ok, you have both made your point, QED? If so then, in an attempt to try and bring this thread back on track regarding football matters............


FWIW, I find it very difficult to watch any Liverpool match on TV at home as well. On the occasions I have been in that situation, I tend to listen on the radio and try and do something else at the same time. This was also one of the underlying reasons for me cancelling my Sky in early March when they tried to almost double the subscription to £56/month. To stop my Sky approaching circa £1k/year, I cancel every couple of years, until they entice me to go back again.

Ordinarily, and until the Covid-19 restrictions, this would not have affected me at all............. I am lucky enough to be at Anfield for league and European fixtures and am usually down the pub watching the away games with mates, neither of which I have done since March ScaredShockedShockedthough I have joined up with friends to watch a few matches including when were were finally presented withe the premier League trophy. HappyHappyHappy
Report Hamlin August 29, 2020 2:05 PM BST
Ah yes, what were you saying about mongolian lesbians earlier? lol. I don't think you can come back from this. "Typing usernames into google"... then goes on to type his own username into google.
Report Hamlin August 29, 2020 2:08 PM BST

Aug 29, 2020 -- 2:04PM, pushkin99 wrote:


Ok, you have both made your point, QED? If so then, in an attempt to try and bring this thread back on track regarding football matters............FWIW, I find it very difficult to watch any Liverpool match on TV at home as well. On the occasions I have been in that situation, I tend to listen on the radio and try and do something else at the same time. This was also one of the underlying reasons for me cancelling my Sky in early March when they tried to almost double the subscription to £56/month. To stop my Sky approaching circa £1k/year, I cancel every couple of years, until they entice me to go back again.Ordinarily, and until the Covid-19 restrictions, this would not have affected me at all............. I am lucky enough to be at Anfield for league and European fixtures and am usually down the pub watching the away games with mates, neither of which I have done since March though I have joined up with friends to watch a few matches including when were were finally presented withe the premier League trophy.


Sure thing push.

I personally think Sky is moving forward and these decision had to be made. Those that feel Sky is moving away from what they want are correct, they are moving into a new era and taking the majority of their subscribers and supporters with them. Those who are no long comfortable with their position on BLM/LGBQT/Gender Equality etc will be left behind.

The soccer saturday magic had to end at some point, it had been gradually declining as the novelty wore off and needed a fresh boost. The likes of Micah Richards and Clinton Morrison have huge followings, you may not think so because you are probably in a bubble of denial about the role of women or people of colour in the industry, but its true.

Report wolf3011 August 29, 2020 2:16 PM BST
The only thing Hamlin you have proven is your own stupidity from each post you have made on the thread.. do you really think anyone cares about the opinion of someone so fcked up in the head they are putting usernames into google pretending to have someones IP talking about Disney, porn and Farage. Begone you gormless woke fool- leave the thread to the adults
Report stickyvicky August 29, 2020 2:33 PM BST
What happens if Jeff Stelling leaves ?
He says today he is considering his position.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/12530575/jeff-stelling-confirms-soccer-saturday-quit/
Report Cider August 29, 2020 2:53 PM BST

Aug 29, 2020 -- 2:08PM, Hamlin wrote:


Aug 29, 2020 --  2:04PM, pushkin99 wrote:Ok, you have both made your point, QED? If so then, in an attempt to try and bring this thread back on track regarding football matters............FWIW, I find it very difficult to watch any Liverpool match on TV at home as well. On the occasions I have been in that situation, I tend to listen on the radio and try and do something else at the same time. This was also one of the underlying reasons for me cancelling my Sky in early March when they tried to almost double the subscription to £56/month. To stop my Sky approaching circa £1k/year, I cancel every couple of years, until they entice me to go back again.Ordinarily, and until the Covid-19 restrictions, this would not have affected me at all............. I am lucky enough to be at Anfield for league and European fixtures and am usually down the pub watching the away games with mates, neither of which I have done since March though I have joined up with friends to watch a few matches including when were were finally presented withe the premier League trophy.Sure thing push.I personally think Sky is moving forward and these decision had to be made. Those that feel Sky is moving away from what they want are correct, they are moving into a new era and taking the majority of their subscribers and supporters with them. Those who are no long comfortable with their position on BLM/LGBQT/Gender Equality etc will be left behind.The soccer saturday magic had to end at some point, it had been gradually declining as the novelty wore off and needed a fresh boost. The likes of Micah Richards and Clinton Morrison have huge followings, you may not think so because you are probably in a bubble of denial about the role of women or people of colour in the industry, but its true.


Are you one of these people who conflate social media with real life? Absolutely nothing wrong with Sky or any commercial organisation freshening something up. All I suggest most people ask for, certainly me is that decisions aren't based on immutable characteristics and identity, but ability and talent. Since Comcast have taken over it seems to me that their political agenda is a priority over commercial considerations. Let's see if the changes they make are based on ability or identity.

Report Magic__Daps August 29, 2020 2:55 PM BST
If Clinton Morrison is the answer I am unsure what the question is. The bloke is awful whenever I have watched it and he is on there, although the last time I seen him on there he did tell us some insightful stuff with the "this could end 0-0" when it was 0-0 with about 6 minutes left.
Report Magic__Daps August 29, 2020 3:05 PM BST
Exactly cider, but the days of hiring talent above identity are now finished.

The other footy forum I go on is full of these right on, virtue signalling buffoons, who say there isn't enough BAME managers or coaches etc and want to tell everyone about it. Yet when we were after a new manager the first person dismissed by the same people was Sol Campbell (obviously because he is awful and not colour). But I thought we had to hire more BAME into management.... Same old, same old.
Report Cider August 29, 2020 3:10 PM BST
Two of the best sports pundits I could name happen to be black. Michael Holding and Michael Johnson. Nothing to do with their race, especially Michael Johnson he's just bl00dy good at his job.
Report pushkin99 August 29, 2020 3:10 PM BST
Hamlin, the last sentence in your third paragraph in reply to my post is very strange indeed. I have no idea how you can either draw the conclusions you have made, or make the claims you have made from reading my posts?

I am not sexist, racist, any other ist u care to think of, homophobic, anti religion etc.

Where I work we have increasing female involvement and more widely, increasing diversity in all its shapes and forms. I very much welcome, embrace and encourage this, as in all forms of society though there is clearly a long way to go. After all, how will we ever get the best out of the people in our Country if we intentionally marginalise any elements of it?
Report 1st time poster August 29, 2020 3:15 PM BST
souness must be a no no for super sundays under the current dikdat,not saying its right or wrong but shows dont just work lioke magic ,rapport is built up over years,maybe they,ll get more new viewers than those who switch off ,who no,s,but they got their way on sun supp and a 20 year show gone in 3 months,
the irony is since sky and bbc tried to convince the lemmings womens football is the next big thing,england have gone backwards at a rate of knots
Report pushkin99 August 29, 2020 3:15 PM BST
Cider, the bajan Carlos Brathwaite was also brilliant commentating on TMS in the recent West Indian Series. Easy to listen to, entertaining and he knew what he was talking about.
Report 1st time poster August 29, 2020 3:17 PM BST
theyve even got a lady on the golf now showing dustin johnson where,s he,s going wrong on her swing machine Laugh
Report darren_discombobulates_sports August 29, 2020 3:20 PM BST
With prime time or high rating shows, you really need to have top ex-player pundits, and especially should not be mixing them with ex players who were way below their level, too awkward viewing, so if the new panel has Merson who was a top player and won league titles, then he should be sitting alongside others of the same ability, otherwise one will be relaying his experience of winning titles/cups and the other will have to draw on some relegation scrap. Problem is if Sky are cost cutting, then lower level players will have to do, also don't think Merson could  have the same banter with Matt Murray, Kevin Kilbane and the like, would be a whole different show not worth watching.

Clinton Morrison unfortunately for him and I did give him a chance, is not a good pundit, does not have good diction, doesn't have the experience, really a journeyman forward who didn't score that much.

So if you want to put in place pundits of different backgrounds/races, you then have the likes of Sol Campbell, who although fits the criteria of being a winner/genuinely great defender, is very aloof, quiet and doesn't really do matey banter, Ian Wright would be perfect on that show, imo. I actually think ratings would go up if he joined, also has the ready made rapport with Merson ex teammate.

Actually think David James could be good value, a bit odd but think he'd be good, though didn't win much. Still high profile ex player who played many times for England.

Not John Barnes though, talks at 100mph and is very deep. Like listening to a Horse Racing commentator.
Report 1st time poster August 29, 2020 3:26 PM BST
sol campbell did the nevo show and was the worst one of the entire series no personality,nothing,and thats heavily edited  with the worst bits cut out
Report 1st time poster August 29, 2020 3:31 PM BST
kamara and scott on goals on sunday is cringworthy,just about got away with it with that ben fella,but even that was leagues behind the original with kammy and that fella with curly hair and moustache, scouse identikit  gear from 80,s ,mcaffery was it
Report Hamlin August 29, 2020 4:12 PM BST
This thread is a prime example of unconscious bias, a black or female presenter is hired and you cry and complain that maybe they weren't the best choice yet sit there and listen to Paul Merson mumble his way through trying to pronounce anything longer than 2 syllables. Hire a white man and no-one mentions equality or questions it... hire a female or minority and you jump online to vent perceived injustice.
Report Cider August 29, 2020 4:24 PM BST
People are saying there are good non white male pundits and poor ones. There are also poor white male pundits, plenty of them. People are saying any replacement should be chosen on their perceived ability to do the job. There is also plenty of criticism of white pundits so your inference is patently incorrect. Who thinks Shearer is s good pundit?
Report pushkin99 August 29, 2020 4:26 PM BST
I am still waiting for your reply Hamlin....................
Report Magic__Daps August 29, 2020 4:26 PM BST
Hamlin you just come across like a typical hard left angry social media keyboard warrior, who thinks anyone who disagrees with your views are automatically a racist, bigot, sexist etc etc etc, and just want to put everyone in certain groups and call them victims.

You mentioned equality, so what does that equate to your opinion?
Report pushkin99 August 29, 2020 4:28 PM BST
Off to watch the footie in my local, first time since Covid-19.

Maybe u could elaborate Hamlin for my return?
Report 1st time poster August 29, 2020 4:30 PM BST
everyones bias in their choice of viewing thats why theres an off button, but nothing new here ,the probable replacements have all bee seen before on the imo 2nd tier midweek results shows,and their not my cup of tea when ive got alternatives to get results,reports from, theyve piggy backed the original guests ,getting on one at a time ,now they,ll be the majority maybe 3 sat alongside merse and its up to them to make it work, its not bias because i dont like the ladies,i dont like morrison,or the goalie,cottee,mellor etc
Report morpteh mackem August 29, 2020 6:04 PM BST
scott minto gone too
Report 1st time poster August 29, 2020 6:46 PM BST
laura wood [ cant place her ] going to get a higher profile
Report Hamlin August 29, 2020 6:51 PM BST

Aug 29, 2020 -- 4:26PM, pushkin99 wrote:


I am still waiting for your reply Hamlin....................


Missed it in all the posts, it was directly aimed at you push, I don't know you and you do seem reasonable so I won't assume. It is though my opinion and generalised view based off interactions on forums like this.

Report ZEALOT August 29, 2020 6:54 PM BST
Football has been Shyte for years now . Just watched the ‘87 Cup Final
Report wolf3011 August 29, 2020 8:24 PM BST
I doubt a single person on this forum cares what colour a presenter on sky sports is - what matters is whether they can do the job both in terms of knowledge regarding the game and possess character traits which enable them to bring entertaining interactions to the viewers screen.

When people obsess about diversity quotas, they create a problem which doesn't exist for the vast majority of people and do far more damage than a sky sports panel that may not have enough ethnic minority faces on it. The notion that " positive discrimination" is fair where you are only hiring people based on skin tone to "balance the numbers" subsequently failing to hire someone because they may be white is just as racist as someone black not getting hired. The idea that in a sport where a disproportionally high number of footballers are black that a sky sports panel with " too many white faces" promote or encourage racism is so ridiculous that it encourages people to leave an organisation with these views which seems determined to hog headlines crying wolf looking for attention when most see it for the sh1t it is. It isn't the job of sky to bang drums for any organisation, it's their job to exist in a meritocratic environment reporting on what people sign up for .. sport instead of last year where they spent hours discussing some kid chucked out of a non league game who may/may not have made racist noises on the day the league title was being decided.
Report Ibrahima Sonko August 29, 2020 9:58 PM BST
MLT was a great pundit, he said something that didnt confirm.

The rest is history and sky will go the way of espn.
Report ribero1 August 29, 2020 10:04 PM BST
Lead headlines on BBC news just now declare Chelsea (women) as winners of Community shield,not a mention of Arsenal.
Report mecca August 29, 2020 10:18 PM BST
I agree with what's said on here about the box ticking, PC cr@p .... but personally, if I'm going to watch a match on TV. I don't give a feck who the presenter or ''pundit'' is. I tune in to watch the match, not the waffle before and after it.
Same with the horseracing... loads of threads slagging off the presenters ... but I just ignore all the BS and just enjoy the actual races.

Having said that, I do like Don Goodman on sky... but he only does EFL matches
Report pumphol. August 29, 2020 10:40 PM BST
ribero1
Lead headlines on BBC news just now declare Chelsea (women) as winners of Community shield,not a mention of Arsenal.


Showed the women's shield highlights on the BBC news as the men's is on MOTD,  45 seconds on Chelsea's win with the first thing being  shown was them taking the knee Crazy
Report olddesperado August 29, 2020 11:14 PM BST
Wolf 8:24 
Great post,
I honestly think all this forced agenda is starting to make me racist as I'm noticing and becoming aware of agenda,s relating to skin colour more or less for the first time now.

Sky will probably be aware of the backlash and why so I expect them to try deflect the critisism by appointing a white male , a black male and a woman to replace the three guys sacked.

It won't work and next season a presenter will just read out the latest scores with a floating guest just time filling.

Filling quotas done for the Sunday suppliment and it will do for soccer Saturday too.
Report snowynoon August 29, 2020 11:20 PM BST
the BBC are truly pathetic ,there pushing of womens football is a joke ,basically nobody in the country cares about womens football unless its the world cup or maybe another international game ,and their insistence on showing us the players taking a knee before every higlights game even ,and making a comment about a "powerful message " ,they think they are so clever and woke ,but they are actually creating more racial tension that way ,as people are getting sick of it being rammed down their throats non stop.
Report workrider August 29, 2020 11:27 PM BST
I'm seriously thinking of getting rid of sky sports, it has simply gone overboard re blm , every second comment seems to be about someone taken the knee etc. Totally over the top imo . I will give them a week then decide.
Report olddesperado August 29, 2020 11:40 PM BST
I got rid at start of lockdown workrider and honestly I have to admit I have missed some games but I feel strong enough about the agenda they're on to think it's worth it and not 're subscribe.

Darts on at the moment which is killing me and I do miss the golf as well but it's almost on principle now rather than exorbitant cost.
Report olddesperado August 29, 2020 11:46 PM BST
Sky bt premier Amazon sky racing ruk eir sport.

Just too fragmented now anyway for the normal sport fan imo.

I'm learning to do without it like in the eighties and before.
Report LoyalHoncho August 30, 2020 4:05 AM BST
I binned it about three years ago and have made do with highlights, on tv and youtube, or just MOTD with mute on to drown out Shearer and Wright, or radio or whatever.  Wouldn't have it back for anything.  They've politicised football and tried to bully/brainwash us all into accepting what we don't want.  I'm even thinking of binning the tv licence too!  Seriously.  I actually believe this is the way forward.  Hit their bottom lines and budgets - It's the only thing they will pay heed to.
Report elisjohn August 30, 2020 7:32 AM BST
i like  my sport but dont have sky , nor bt, i listen to cricket on tms ( thats terrible these days bar aggers and vaughan  ) but i tolerate it as excellent for trading, i listen to all soccer on 5 live or  talksport, i get my racing on itv( again i tolerate the commentator/ presenters), snooker i get on bbc , i only watch the worlds, masters and uk .Miss the golf,  but again its only the majors im interested in, so im really ok without the sky etc.
Report Magic__Daps August 30, 2020 8:11 AM BST
The box ticking exercise will just go one way and it won't be their profits going up. One of the main issues is the people with the agenda are getting confused between criticism and racism.

Clinton Morrison is useless, as said on here Don Goodman is excellent. Michelle Owen is also excellent, yet Michael Owen was well (make your own mind up). Mellor poor and bland, Keith Andrews (I literally cannot listen to him), that is just plain old criticism. Sterling getting grief in the media and Social Media was classed as racist, Jason Lee back in the day is now racist, yet look at what happened to Beckham by the media, that was fine though...

The likes of Ian Wright who I think was fine and in parts slightly entertaining when he was doing the WC games, is doing himself or the cause of kicking out racism no favours whatsoever. Any criticism of a black player seems to be racist according to him. The same with this Hamlin fella on here (maybe a woman or non binary for all I know), seems to think any criticism of a black person is racist, any criticism of a woman is sexist etc etc. From what I see is people generally want the best people to do the best jobs with a bit of entertainment and chemistry on screen, and shoehorning people into jobs because of their skin colour or sex is indeed actually racism and sexism isn't it? Due to the box ticking nonsense Cricket is now awful, the snooker last week was generally poor too imo.

I will start getting into Basketball when we have a fair representation of white people participating, just for the comedy value. When will there be uproar about that...
Report flukes August 30, 2020 8:16 AM BST
Great post Daps
Report elisjohn August 30, 2020 8:45 AM BST
yes good posts, does anyone else think that micah richards is dreadful? ,  i know hes a character and funny and hopeless  but i love garthGrin
Report morpteh mackem August 30, 2020 8:54 AM BST
crooks is hopeless but I find him watchable .

rumour that jeff stelling is unhappy, he's being very coy on his twitter account, wouldnt shock me if he did a dave lee travis Grin
Report ribero1 August 30, 2020 9:19 AM BST
Re Richards,agree Elisjohn and he's just got himself a column in the mail who announced it yesterday with him plastered all over the back page declaring him "Footballs exciting new pundit".
Report Magic__Daps August 30, 2020 10:00 AM BST
If Stelling does walk then it may actually hit home to Sky that the box ticking exercise and all the virtue signalling is doing the complete opposite.

Strange how Sky Australia News is the polar opposite of Sky News here, shame we don't have these reporting on all this racism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeOrIzWT0j8

Excellent video
Report wolf3011 August 30, 2020 10:42 AM BST
"I will start getting into basketball once they get a fair proportion of white people playing " Grin Good point ,perhaps worth emailing sky over the race diversity issues in that sport... strange how racism only works one way where when it's a tiny number of white representatives no one bats an eyelid.

On a side note, how long will it be before swimming is labelled as a sport run by the ku klux klan as there hardly seem to be any black swimmers? No doubt a doctor on behalf of the BLM will appear saying it's due to trauma ethnic minorities have faced in bathtubs with cheap rubber ducks that came about as a consequence of a disadvantaged background being to blame.
Report snowynoon August 30, 2020 10:57 AM BST
LaughLaugh,very good wolf .
Report darren_discombobulates_sports August 30, 2020 11:34 AM BST
I will start getting into Basketball when we have a fair representation of white people participating, just for the comedy value. When will there be uproar about that...


isn't this because Basketball is much more popular sport to play in the black community than the white, not an expert on American sports but it seems to me there's far more white baseball and NHL players?
Report 1st time poster August 30, 2020 11:40 AM BST
last couple of weeks on the golf channel lady on dont no wether she,s pro,ex pro or coach,telling dustin johnson how he can improve his 380 yd drive down the middle equating it to the ladies game,its fooooking ridiculous
bbc news yesterday morning on about city v arsenal charity shield and at the end said it ko at 12 30,no it didnt it kicked off at 4 30,the womens game kicked off at 12 30 they new this but didnt mention it,trying to piggy back the mens game,because the interest in womens football is miniscule but they keep banging the drum,
ex euro tour winners dougherty and jamie spence pretending to sit there whilst an unknown lady to 99.9% of viewers shows them where they went wrong with their swing is fooooking madness
Report pushkin99 August 30, 2020 12:19 PM BST

Aug 29, 2020 -- 6:51PM, Hamlin wrote:


Aug 29, 2020 --  4:26PM, pushkin99 wrote:I am still waiting for your reply Hamlin....................Missed it in all the posts, it was directly aimed at you push, I don't know you and you do seem reasonable so I won't assume. It is though my opinion and generalised view based off interactions on forums like this.


Thanks for that Hamlin, I am glad your post was NOT directly aimed at me.

Be careful though, of not falling into the trap of the trolls on this forum - MJK is the worst example - in making unsubstantiated claims about other persons, without any supporting argument or evidence.

Report mecca August 30, 2020 2:52 PM BST
Progressives would have us apologising ... or even compensating people that are not even born yet.

For perceived crimes committed hundreds of years before we were born.
Report ZEALOT August 30, 2020 3:39 PM BST
per 100,000 incarcerated in the US .

698    White
4347   Black
1775   Hispanic .

The way to combat racism and the only way is to NEVER MENTION IT IN THE MEDIA , NEVER .

It is in the media for a reason . I do not know what it is but it is a fact . Similar to the pathetic war on drugs . Just legalise the lot of them .
Report wolf3011 August 30, 2020 4:00 PM BST
Post the crime stats to accompany the incarceration stats ^
Report snowynoon August 30, 2020 4:06 PM BST
no one is saying NEVER discuss racism in the media ,but not ALL THE TIME ,is what we are saying .Regards your incarceration figures ,if you commit a crime and are found guilty by a court you go to prison ,very few chinese or asian americans in prison ,does that mean they are being favoured by the police/courts ,or is it that they are generally more law abiding .
Report 1st time poster August 30, 2020 4:38 PM BST
practically no black trainers,owners,jockey,s yet doesnt seem to bother anyone, tv,media, etc
Report wolf3011 August 30, 2020 5:33 PM BST
I suspect we will see black opportunities adversely affected not due to racism, but the screaming and wailing about racism when in most cases it doesn't exist. Many companies may take a view that if they have to let someone go due to performance related issues, do they really want a backlash from a society claiming it was a racist act.. a society that thinks an all white panel on sky sports is racist, one that orders people onto a knee like a slave in sport events is mandatory and encourages children of 4 or 5 to be "gender fluid".
Report stroodle August 30, 2020 5:39 PM BST
Just had to look up gender fluid.....    denoting or relating to a person who does not identify themselves as having a fixed gender.  Quite confusing when your in your sixties Devil
Report wolf3011 August 30, 2020 5:43 PM BST
Indeed stroodle -its a load of old crap. In the media the other day someone claimed to be pansexual , I assumed it was a sexual fetish for frying pans before googling it. Grin
Report stroodle August 30, 2020 5:47 PM BST
Now Wolf that's enough pansexual Laugh I assumed it was a sexual fetish for frying pans before googling it. LaughLaughLaugh
Report pushkin99 August 30, 2020 6:01 PM BST
Pansexual, was that not how the female trying to become leader of the Lib Dems described herself?

On a related theme, one of my Cousin's is a Theatre Nurse, and she sees quite a few patients coming into A&E attached to 'vacuum cleaner parts' that they apparently 'just fell onto, attaching themselves by accident'............some of the stories she tells are hilarious.
Report mecca August 30, 2020 6:10 PM BST
I blame Freddie Mercury
Report morpteh mackem August 30, 2020 6:57 PM BST
what is pansexual ? fetish for a greek god ?
Report stroodle August 30, 2020 7:07 PM BST
Since Wolf posted that about gender fluid, ive had a look on google, did you know there is 58 varieties Laugh did you know about non-binary pansexual LaughLaughLaugh Really is heavy stuff on the temples Crazy
Report morpteh mackem August 30, 2020 7:18 PM BST
im waiting for people who don't refer themselves as humans ie  non-human, so can be a cat or a hippopotomaus etc.
Report stroodle August 30, 2020 7:38 PM BST
You've just got to feel sorry for some the young kids these days who feel a bit different, then latch onto this gender fluid stuff, sometimes it seems its just a fashionable thing to do for some.
Report lurka August 30, 2020 10:06 PM BST
There was a show on BBC called Years and Years a couple of years back. People were raving about it online but I quickly realised they were all in favour of shíte like this, inclusion, diversity and talking it up in the ratings.

I couldn't even finish the first episode. You should have a look at it, it's bonkers. You won't get to the end of the first episode, but it shows you the world these people want, which is good to know.

Morpteh - that is dealt with in this programme. It's called Transhumanism. The show is set like 10 or 20 years in the future when all of this is the norm.
Report ian merseyside August 31, 2020 1:19 AM BST
That's the danger with young kids, if you plant any seed of doubt in their head as regards gender, some will inevitably start questioning themselves when there is no need.  I'm not religious at all, but I don't think you should tamper with nature in this way.
Report If Dolphins Were Monkeys August 31, 2020 6:40 AM BST
Transhumanism has been on the agenda since the 1950s lurka. Simply put it means 'directed evolution'.

A form of this is set to be trailed on unsuspecting human guinea pigs in poor remote parts of West Africa in the form of a biometrical digital identity system and cashless payment technology that "evolves as we evolve".

It's a collaboration between the wonderfully altruistic GAVI (Gates/Rockerfeller funded foundations) MasterCard & Truststamp.

Since 2018 they've been itching to get this stuck into us and under the guise of trialling a potential Covid vaccine it appears they're gonna get their wish.

This sort of AI technology could clearly be of great benefit to us, but in the hands of the above evil, you've really gotta question where they want to take us with this.
Report morpteh mackem August 31, 2020 9:38 AM BST
right, if thats the case, i've become a wolverine.
Report lurka August 31, 2020 10:15 AM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9E5NYKOBdk

Have a look at this lad Adam Rowe from Liverpool. He slags all of these types off. Better than any of the stand-up comedy you see on Netflix.
Report If Dolphins Were Monkeys August 31, 2020 11:35 AM BST
Very good lurka Grin.

Comedian called Andrew Lawrence been putting out some great satire on his twitter feed in recent months...

@andrewlawrence
Report stroodle August 31, 2020 1:30 PM BST
That was good Lurka enjoyed that video from Adam Rowe, sure Ive seen him on a few tv adverts, but had a good laugh there.
Report digdeep September 11, 2020 12:36 AM BST
Pundits should have to put their money where their mouths are,and at the end of the season the 3 who lost the most kicked out then you might get some pundits worth listening to.
Report akabula September 11, 2020 1:15 AM BST
Watching that vid just now lurka, 30 mins in, and can't believe how good he is.
Report Winner_Winner_Chicken_Diner September 12, 2020 3:33 AM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO_HRzoIsyE&

Bend the knee bigotCrazy
Report harry callaghan September 12, 2020 5:15 PM BST
stelling finished... no camaraderie a complete damp squid utterly boring
Report tony6499 September 12, 2020 5:21 PM BST
Very poor opener, the distancing doesn't help at all but they sacked the 3 for this mess ?
Report Try My Best September 12, 2020 5:28 PM BST
They should start up a different programme with Amazon like the Top Gear lads did. Stelling is brilliant but todays show was terrible.
Report darren_discombobulates_sports September 12, 2020 5:39 PM BST
didn't see it, who were the 3 other pundits ?
Report Try My Best September 12, 2020 6:22 PM BST
Glenn Johnson ffs Sue Smith laughable Clinton its too difficult to string two words together Pulis boring as ****
Report flukes September 12, 2020 6:48 PM BST
Welcome to the new woke order where ability, personality and relevant experience count for nothing
Report darren_discombobulates_sports September 12, 2020 7:02 PM BST
I'd be interested to see comparisons between average viewing figures for this show and today's show, maybe it was up.
Report roache September 12, 2020 7:44 PM BST
Have the sacked 3 had any fall outs with sky as they are streets ahead of Merson ,Clinton and Glen Johnson in there respective roles.
Report darren_discombobulates_sports September 12, 2020 7:58 PM BST
I imagine it was a cost cutting exercise, probably asked to resign on reduced contracts because of the lost money the last few months. The replacements would be far cheaper.

I once read Charlie Nicolas was on 400k a year, that was a while ago so probably rose past half a mil, but 400k a year doing 38 shows a season is £10.5k a show.
Report Try My Best September 12, 2020 8:53 PM BST
and still half of what Lineker gets on the dreadful BBC that we all pay for with no choice
Report Try My Best September 12, 2020 8:55 PM BST
The people who know fack all about the game get hired and the people who have actually done something get rifled. Facking society makes me hurl.
Report smirnoff2therescue September 12, 2020 10:23 PM BST
Darren they will hav been on much more than that.....fact

Glen McCrory was getting 4k a gig on the boxing in the mid to late 90s ShockedShockedWinkWink
Report snowynoon September 12, 2020 11:39 PM BST
it wasnt a cost cutting exercise ,the owners of sky are obsessed with BLM ,thats why they were replaced ,it was a cert they would replace them with 1 white ,2 black pundits.Le Tissiers days were numbered when he said he wasnt entirely comfortable with the whole BLM/sky thing .
Report ian merseyside September 13, 2020 1:28 AM BST
Question of Sport on BBC have axed Barker, Dawson and Tufnell.  No announcement yet as to who will replace them.
Report nineteen points September 13, 2020 9:11 AM BST
bet you could hazzard a guess
Report Earl E Bath September 13, 2020 10:13 AM BST
Can't see Jeff continuing long with this shambles. Only problem for viewers is the alternatives (BBC & BT) are no better.
Report PorcupineorPineapple September 13, 2020 10:13 AM BST
Please pick Venus Williams, Kris Akabusi and Laura Davies.


Please please please. You could power half the country for a week from the fumes.
Report darren_discombobulates_sports September 13, 2020 12:02 PM BST
Question of sport is really dated and stale and changes needed to be made, always thought Dawson had a forced personality. Barker was complaining about being underpaid in her jobs compared to men, maybe it's payback from the BBC.
Report harry callaghan September 13, 2020 12:45 PM BST
i thought kelly cates looked very uncomfortable last night with jimmy floyd hasselbank unable to string 2 words together
Report ian merseyside September 13, 2020 1:23 PM BST
What's happened to "Goals on Sunday"?  I've not watched it for a while but thought I'd take a quick look this morning.  No Kammy now and no studio guests.  Sky have really dumbed it down.
Report LoyalHoncho September 13, 2020 3:32 PM BST
Shearer's third word last night - "Magnificent"!  It's clearly the only adjective he knows.  Total emptyhead milking the gravy train for all it's worth.  As for the t wat that is Ian Wright?!  What a smug, bloated, arrogant, ignorant barsteward he is.
Report jamesdean September 13, 2020 3:47 PM BST
Heard  Ian wright mentioning the 'low block' last night on MOTD.
Sure he was on the wind up, tongue in cheek and a big up for his mate Alex Scott
Report Richie_Burnett September 13, 2020 4:35 PM BST
Surprised that scumbag, Tufnell, has lasted as long as he has - woman beaters are the scum of the earth. They should kick him off TMS as well.
Report ffaith September 13, 2020 4:35 PM BST
Wrighty worries me.   I used to love his sense of humour.  Now he comes across as an urban version of Shearer.  Not a good thing by the way.
Report Capt__F September 13, 2020 10:53 PM BST
shearer and wrighty a couple
Report Capt__F September 13, 2020 10:54 PM BST
of tw@ts
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