Football
Sky Sack - Le Tiss, Champagne Charlie and Thompson
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look here is another wolf3011 https://thienvadia.net/diendan/members/mr-wolf3011.1999754/
You've found me , Im in vietnam  |
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42... just a lonely old man posting on a gambling forum 24/7. Let this be a lesson to the rest of us, find inner peace before you have your midlife crisis on this forum.
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better that than a sexual deviant typing usernames into google obsessing over porn and video games-
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Ok, you have both made your point, QED? If so then, in an attempt to try and bring this thread back on track regarding football matters............
FWIW, I find it very difficult to watch any Liverpool match on TV at home as well. On the occasions I have been in that situation, I tend to listen on the radio and try and do something else at the same time. This was also one of the underlying reasons for me cancelling my Sky in early March when they tried to almost double the subscription to £56/month. To stop my Sky approaching circa £1k/year, I cancel every couple of years, until they entice me to go back again. Ordinarily, and until the Covid-19 restrictions, this would not have affected me at all............. I am lucky enough to be at Anfield for league and European fixtures and am usually down the pub watching the away games with mates, neither of which I have done since March   though I have joined up with friends to watch a few matches including when were were finally presented withe the premier League trophy.  |
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Ah yes, what were you saying about mongolian lesbians earlier? lol. I don't think you can come back from this. "Typing usernames into google"... then goes on to type his own username into google.
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The only thing Hamlin you have proven is your own stupidity from each post you have made on the thread.. do you really think anyone cares about the opinion of someone so fcked up in the head they are putting usernames into google pretending to have someones IP talking about Disney, porn and Farage. Begone you gormless woke fool- leave the thread to the adults
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What happens if Jeff Stelling leaves ?
He says today he is considering his position. https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/12530575/jeff-stelling-confirms-soccer-saturday-quit/ |
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If Clinton Morrison is the answer I am unsure what the question is. The bloke is awful whenever I have watched it and he is on there, although the last time I seen him on there he did tell us some insightful stuff with the "this could end 0-0" when it was 0-0 with about 6 minutes left.
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Exactly cider, but the days of hiring talent above identity are now finished.
The other footy forum I go on is full of these right on, virtue signalling buffoons, who say there isn't enough BAME managers or coaches etc and want to tell everyone about it. Yet when we were after a new manager the first person dismissed by the same people was Sol Campbell (obviously because he is awful and not colour). But I thought we had to hire more BAME into management.... Same old, same old. |
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Two of the best sports pundits I could name happen to be black. Michael Holding and Michael Johnson. Nothing to do with their race, especially Michael Johnson he's just bl00dy good at his job.
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Hamlin, the last sentence in your third paragraph in reply to my post is very strange indeed. I have no idea how you can either draw the conclusions you have made, or make the claims you have made from reading my posts?
I am not sexist, racist, any other ist u care to think of, homophobic, anti religion etc. Where I work we have increasing female involvement and more widely, increasing diversity in all its shapes and forms. I very much welcome, embrace and encourage this, as in all forms of society though there is clearly a long way to go. After all, how will we ever get the best out of the people in our Country if we intentionally marginalise any elements of it? |
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souness must be a no no for super sundays under the current dikdat,not saying its right or wrong but shows dont just work lioke magic ,rapport is built up over years,maybe they,ll get more new viewers than those who switch off ,who no,s,but they got their way on sun supp and a 20 year show gone in 3 months,
the irony is since sky and bbc tried to convince the lemmings womens football is the next big thing,england have gone backwards at a rate of knots |
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Cider, the bajan Carlos Brathwaite was also brilliant commentating on TMS in the recent West Indian Series. Easy to listen to, entertaining and he knew what he was talking about.
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theyve even got a lady on the golf now showing dustin johnson where,s he,s going wrong on her swing machine
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With prime time or high rating shows, you really need to have top ex-player pundits, and especially should not be mixing them with ex players who were way below their level, too awkward viewing, so if the new panel has Merson who was a top player and won league titles, then he should be sitting alongside others of the same ability, otherwise one will be relaying his experience of winning titles/cups and the other will have to draw on some relegation scrap. Problem is if Sky are cost cutting, then lower level players will have to do, also don't think Merson could have the same banter with Matt Murray, Kevin Kilbane and the like, would be a whole different show not worth watching.
Clinton Morrison unfortunately for him and I did give him a chance, is not a good pundit, does not have good diction, doesn't have the experience, really a journeyman forward who didn't score that much. So if you want to put in place pundits of different backgrounds/races, you then have the likes of Sol Campbell, who although fits the criteria of being a winner/genuinely great defender, is very aloof, quiet and doesn't really do matey banter, Ian Wright would be perfect on that show, imo. I actually think ratings would go up if he joined, also has the ready made rapport with Merson ex teammate. Actually think David James could be good value, a bit odd but think he'd be good, though didn't win much. Still high profile ex player who played many times for England. Not John Barnes though, talks at 100mph and is very deep. Like listening to a Horse Racing commentator. |
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sol campbell did the nevo show and was the worst one of the entire series no personality,nothing,and thats heavily edited with the worst bits cut out
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kamara and scott on goals on sunday is cringworthy,just about got away with it with that ben fella,but even that was leagues behind the original with kammy and that fella with curly hair and moustache, scouse identikit gear from 80,s ,mcaffery was it
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This thread is a prime example of unconscious bias, a black or female presenter is hired and you cry and complain that maybe they weren't the best choice yet sit there and listen to Paul Merson mumble his way through trying to pronounce anything longer than 2 syllables. Hire a white man and no-one mentions equality or questions it... hire a female or minority and you jump online to vent perceived injustice.
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People are saying there are good non white male pundits and poor ones. There are also poor white male pundits, plenty of them. People are saying any replacement should be chosen on their perceived ability to do the job. There is also plenty of criticism of white pundits so your inference is patently incorrect. Who thinks Shearer is s good pundit?
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I am still waiting for your reply Hamlin....................
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Hamlin you just come across like a typical hard left angry social media keyboard warrior, who thinks anyone who disagrees with your views are automatically a racist, bigot, sexist etc etc etc, and just want to put everyone in certain groups and call them victims.
You mentioned equality, so what does that equate to your opinion? |
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Off to watch the footie in my local, first time since Covid-19.
Maybe u could elaborate Hamlin for my return? |
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everyones bias in their choice of viewing thats why theres an off button, but nothing new here ,the probable replacements have all bee seen before on the imo 2nd tier midweek results shows,and their not my cup of tea when ive got alternatives to get results,reports from, theyve piggy backed the original guests ,getting on one at a time ,now they,ll be the majority maybe 3 sat alongside merse and its up to them to make it work, its not bias because i dont like the ladies,i dont like morrison,or the goalie,cottee,mellor etc
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scott minto gone too
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laura wood [ cant place her ] going to get a higher profile
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Football has been Shyte for years now . Just watched the ‘87 Cup Final
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I doubt a single person on this forum cares what colour a presenter on sky sports is - what matters is whether they can do the job both in terms of knowledge regarding the game and possess character traits which enable them to bring entertaining interactions to the viewers screen.
When people obsess about diversity quotas, they create a problem which doesn't exist for the vast majority of people and do far more damage than a sky sports panel that may not have enough ethnic minority faces on it. The notion that " positive discrimination" is fair where you are only hiring people based on skin tone to "balance the numbers" subsequently failing to hire someone because they may be white is just as racist as someone black not getting hired. The idea that in a sport where a disproportionally high number of footballers are black that a sky sports panel with " too many white faces" promote or encourage racism is so ridiculous that it encourages people to leave an organisation with these views which seems determined to hog headlines crying wolf looking for attention when most see it for the sh1t it is. It isn't the job of sky to bang drums for any organisation, it's their job to exist in a meritocratic environment reporting on what people sign up for .. sport instead of last year where they spent hours discussing some kid chucked out of a non league game who may/may not have made racist noises on the day the league title was being decided. |
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MLT was a great pundit, he said something that didnt confirm.
The rest is history and sky will go the way of espn. |
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Lead headlines on BBC news just now declare Chelsea (women) as winners of Community shield,not a mention of Arsenal.
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I agree with what's said on here about the box ticking, PC cr@p .... but personally, if I'm going to watch a match on TV. I don't give a feck who the presenter or ''pundit'' is. I tune in to watch the match, not the waffle before and after it.
Same with the horseracing... loads of threads slagging off the presenters ... but I just ignore all the BS and just enjoy the actual races. Having said that, I do like Don Goodman on sky... but he only does EFL matches |
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Lead headlines on BBC news just now declare Chelsea (women) as winners of Community shield,not a mention of Arsenal. Showed the women's shield highlights on the BBC news as the men's is on MOTD, 45 seconds on Chelsea's win with the first thing being shown was them taking the knee  |
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Wolf 8:24
Great post, I honestly think all this forced agenda is starting to make me racist as I'm noticing and becoming aware of agenda,s relating to skin colour more or less for the first time now. Sky will probably be aware of the backlash and why so I expect them to try deflect the critisism by appointing a white male , a black male and a woman to replace the three guys sacked. It won't work and next season a presenter will just read out the latest scores with a floating guest just time filling. Filling quotas done for the Sunday suppliment and it will do for soccer Saturday too. |
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the BBC are truly pathetic ,there pushing of womens football is a joke ,basically nobody in the country cares about womens football unless its the world cup or maybe another international game ,and their insistence on showing us the players taking a knee before every higlights game even ,and making a comment about a "powerful message " ,they think they are so clever and woke ,but they are actually creating more racial tension that way ,as people are getting sick of it being rammed down their throats non stop.
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I'm seriously thinking of getting rid of sky sports, it has simply gone overboard re blm , every second comment seems to be about someone taken the knee etc. Totally over the top imo . I will give them a week then decide.
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I got rid at start of lockdown workrider and honestly I have to admit I have missed some games but I feel strong enough about the agenda they're on to think it's worth it and not 're subscribe.
Darts on at the moment which is killing me and I do miss the golf as well but it's almost on principle now rather than exorbitant cost. |
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Sky bt premier Amazon sky racing ruk eir sport.
Just too fragmented now anyway for the normal sport fan imo. I'm learning to do without it like in the eighties and before. |
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I binned it about three years ago and have made do with highlights, on tv and youtube, or just MOTD with mute on to drown out Shearer and Wright, or radio or whatever. Wouldn't have it back for anything. They've politicised football and tried to bully/brainwash us all into accepting what we don't want. I'm even thinking of binning the tv licence too! Seriously. I actually believe this is the way forward. Hit their bottom lines and budgets - It's the only thing they will pay heed to.
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