Football Betting strategies

Jack.. check out   ftsincome.co.uk...they have a database of all top euro leagues going back 8 years .. great software  but not cheap

Cheers @woundedknee, do you have any data on success / return rates / ROI. I watched the videos, looks good but I have tried so many in the past that I am wary of investing without some data on ROI etc.

@Jack I will PM you this afternoon/evening to discuss

Has anyone tried the
Mike cruickshank profit maximiser approach. He advertises it pretty well,anyone know how it works,and if it is any good.

Morning Rigsby, how you doing hope all is well, pretty boring this lockdown but what can we do.

Just googled it there,binary trading in casinos not for me.

The definition of madness

1) Believing the earth is flat
2) Believing the holy ghost has it's birthday party on Halloween with a game of pin the tail on satan with Jesus
3) Believing any profitable betting system will be sold to the general public to generate money when they could earn millions using it themselves.

I have an email from a prince in Nigeria asking for bank details to deposit funds in as he received an email from his great aunty Achukwu letting him know I'm a trustworthy soul who will look after the kitty.. may as well. It makes as much sense as buying a betting " system"

I think it's the boredom wolf

Fair enough

if the OP is correct and dan childs and mark langdon have posted tips pre event and shown a long term profit, then some people have done it.

yeah ok Darren

so the op is lying

Darren youve found the holy grail mate , just back all his tips and see you in the Bahamas once the virus fcks off. Why do any of us bother with form, just back a tipster in the racing post long term is all we need to do... in other news Darren puts a tenner on Apollos horse towing the sun across the sky with Ra roaring it home

you said madness is ....

Believing any profitable betting system will be sold to the general public

racing post is a subscription and is sold to the public and in profit

You're probably operating on a similar intelligence level to Dan childs.. hope you backed his football tips for this season as he clearly know what hes talking about


https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=dan+childs+racing+post&docid=608030655609374687&mid=5CF5C4DEF6C505C78E4A5CF5C4DEF6C505C78E4A&view=detail&FORM=VIRE


City to win the prem was a genius tip 25 points behind lpool and scunthorpe to win league 2 - lurking in 20th.. youve found the holy grail dazza boy... nothing much to say other than bravo

but he's in clear long term profit

what does a pre season yankee bet have to do with anything?

It shows he's utterly clueless

as are the fools that subscribe to his or any "tipsters " service

somebody in long term profit is utterly clueless because he backed 4 league winners in a yankee pre season?

Put his long term profit stats up Darren

Jack .. I run my own systems.. mainly ...lay the draw ..... all solid systems in profit every year (8)  put the time in.. and become a Rich Bastard like me

that's what I am saying....are you saying the op is lying? he posted the pts total

Also, let's assume that is not true, or Mark Langden's long term profit is not true....

are you saying that nobody has ever posted long term profits before, all tipsters in betting history have all show long term losses?

Premier league - Back the draw in games between top 6 clubs - 2019 - +12.5 points

this has to be back-tested for multiple seasons. otherwise you are using such a small sample and it may not be reliable so be careful with things like this of one year of data

Dan Childs (Racing post subscription) - +116 points in 2019 & to date in 2020 per my daily records
Mark Langdon (RP Subscription & Podcast) +89 points same period

my main problem with tipsters is this, can you get the price? how much can you get on? if you can get on now how long will you be able to get on for?

it's all well and good claiming best price as a tipster but how many can in reality actually get on at that price? are they using obscure bookmakers? how long does that price last? etc. everything is about price in this game

if you start winning even small bookmakers will shut you down so you have to look at exchange prices. i'm not saying you can't make profit because you can, anything is possible, but you have to be realistic and honest about what's achievable when following tipsters

then if you're betting to £10 a point you'll make such small profit that even if you're winning the effort isn't worth what you are getting, so again you are likely to be backing on exchange price which in some cases can be better but it depends on the bet and what happens to the market. do the aforementioned tipsters get punted in heavily? again it comes back to what price you can get, so you almost certainly won't be matching their points profit betting after the tip has been posted

also, jack, don't take this the wrong way but if you do find a good tipster, don't tell anyone about them. keep it to yourself. the more people know about good tipsters the harder it will be for you to make money. be selfish in this game. nobody on this forum gives a single **** about anyone else other than themselves. take what people are saying with a pinch of salt as well. most gamblers are failures, plain and simple. you can be in the 0.1% but you don't get it by following others.

you'll get more out of being the tipster yourself, working out bets for yourself, and then maybe even selling them yourself, than by following like a sheep.

that said, is it possible to make a profit this way? Yes. anything is possible
GL

Im saying profit or loss figures in one year means nothing- put ten years of stats up with thousands of bets with verified odds and then look at what the figures say. I've no idea whether a poster on betfair putting stats up is accurate or not- there's no evidence either way and its over such a short time frame it's irrelevant anyway. If you picked horses to win nominated by throwing a dart at names with a blindfold on with 5000 people doing it, many by the laws of averages would show profit even over medium to long term so again it's irrelevant

How would Michael van Gerwen fare if he was to employ your darts based selection methodology

The " tipsters" are normally there to attract the average mug punter and are widely supported by bookmakers as they realise it will attract more people to place bets reading about someone proclaiming to be an " expert " and the average guy down the pub thinking they are being savvy following him. The reality is these "tipsters " have no edge at all and at the end of any calendar year odds are manipulated to give a profit which doesn't exist or very often they have been unable to match as said earlier.

Are you a long term losing gambler or a long term winning gambler ?

It doesn't matter as anyone can claim to be anything on here so whatever someone says will be treated with derision. If you are implying that someone who has lifetime profits on betfair proves that there are winning tipsters about it's a weak argument. There may be people making money on betting, but they certainly aren't writing tipping columns in the sun or racing post.. they are people who identify value and bet on it not writing for hundreds of thousands of people which immediately takes any value away of the bet

I in general agree, I wouldn't advise anyone to pay for any tips, but the impression you were giving is that winning long term can't be done because you couldn't. There are plenty of long term winners, albeit a minority group.

However posting tips in national publications is a bit different to those advertising themselves on here, they're paid to post recommendations, along with written articles, whereas chancers on here are asking you to pay them and have a regular job.

Who is asking for money on here? Dan Childs writes for a national paper as does Mark Landon- the idea that someone can pick up a copy of the racing post every day betting on their tips making money long term is ridiculous.

I never gave any impression of not being able to win long term at all, I'm  happy with my lifetime profits and don't buy "systems".

plenty over the years have offered tipping services on here lol

don't follow the RP tips so don't know, but you did say on another thread that 500 bets could be considered long term, yet on this thread you say 10 years worth are needed

1 bet per week would equal  520/ten years but even if the master tipster has had 5 million bets, if the odds aren't verified it's a useless statistic. The odds are key, unless you can get on at the odds posted by these supposed genius tipsters it's all hot air.. if you had ten horses in a race and the odds on the favourite during the 24 hours before it runs alters between evens and 3.2 , if someone is claiming to back it at 3.2 every time or lay it at evens they will be in profit after enough bets regardless of how poor/good their tips are.

Horse racing tips are open to huge manipulation /abuse, a better test would actually be football bets which rarely fluctuate before kick off to the same degree bar the odd exception in cup games where an unexpected number of reserves play etc. lets hope the master tactician does better than scunthorpe and man city to win their respective leagues

From OP: 3. Premier league - Back the draw in games between top 6 clubs - 2019 - +12.5 points

This site: http://green-all-over.blogspot.com/ has been following, tracking and recommending how to do it for a few years:

He's far more accurate, articulate and realistic than anyone else I know doing a similar thing. You may have to trawl through his posts to find this but well worthwhile.

He mainly concentrates on US sports but his football stuff is good.

but you have to agree that the racingpost tipsters get the winner most times in a 14 runner handicap , tipsters are for the general population im affraid, racingpost on big handicap days always has the headline so & so tipster got the 25/1 winner in a big handicap, happens all the time, someone will pick the winner because they have about 15 diffrent tipsters, kevin pullen knows his stuff i have no doubt but you try and make a profit out of his tips

oh dear.. how old are you lord?