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By:
Schalke 04
When: 09 Feb 20 21:57
Start - £800

37. Real Betis v Barcelona @ 75-80 - £832.77 to win £9.81 - WON - FT: 2-3

Total Won: £150.59 - Next bet: £842

Withdrawn: £108.59 - Total Stakes: £29,328.53

©Schalke 04©
By:
hawkshaw
When: 10 Feb 20 21:41
In the English Premier League, the last time "any other draw" came up was back in 2013 which was Fergie's last game in charge of Man Utd:

19/05/2013 West Brom v Man Utd 5-5

Going back as far as 2009-10, there were only 3 other occasions but they all happened before that:

05/02/2011 Newcastle v Arsenal 4-4 (I seem to remember that Newcastle came back from 0-4)
22/04/2012 Man United v Everton 4-4
28/04/2012 Swansea v Wolves 4-4

So 4 from a total of 4053 matches (but it did happen twice within a week!)
By:
Schalke 04
When: 13 Feb 20 01:36
Wow !! Great stats hawkshaw
By:
Schalke 04
When: 13 Feb 20 18:48
Next bet: Go Ahead Eagles v FC Utrecht @ 300 - £837.20 to win £2.66 while 1-3 @ 58 mins
By:
Schalke 04
When: 13 Feb 20 19:24
Start - £800

38. Go Ahead Eagles v FC Utrecht @ 300 - £837.20 to win £2.66 - WON - FT: 1-4

Total Won: £153.25 - Next bet: £843

Withdrawn: £110.25 - Total Stakes: £30,165.73

©Schalke 04©
By:
Schalke 04
When: 13 Feb 20 19:44
Next bet: Antwerp v Genk @ 310 - £834.30 to win £2.57 while 0-1 @ 12 mins
By:
Schalke 04
When: 14 Feb 20 02:59
Start - £800

39. Antwerp v Genk @ 310 - £834.30 to win £2.57 - WON - FT: 1-1

Total Won: £155.82 - Next bet: £844

Withdrawn: £111.82 - Total Stakes: £31,000.03

©Schalke 04©
By:
Schalke 04
When: 14 Feb 20 19:08
Next bet: Borrusia Dortmund v Eintracht Frankfurt @ 240 - £841.28 to win £3.34
By:
Schalke 04
When: 14 Feb 20 21:24
Start - £800

40. Borrusia Dortmund v Eintracht Frankfurt @ 240 - £841.28 to win £3.34 - WON - FT: 4-0

Total Won: £159.16 - Next bet: £845

Withdrawn: £114.16 - Total Stakes: £31,841.31

©Schalke 04©
By:
Schalke 04
When: 14 Feb 20 21:28
Next bet: Hull v Swansea @ 36 - £770 to win £20.90 while 3-3 @ 82 mins
By:
Schalke 04
When: 14 Feb 20 21:29
Good timing Crazy
By:
Schalke 04
When: 14 Feb 20 21:40
That'll be that then, poor bet when I think about it
By:
Mr Spock
When: 14 Feb 20 21:43
Cry feel for you.
By:
hawkshaw
When: 14 Feb 20 23:12
SadI should have kept my stats to myself.  Hope I didn't jinx it.
By:
gibmark
When: 15 Feb 20 12:49
you werent really laying 4-4 from ko , it was 1-1 more with 8 min to go .....i know its easy with hindsight , unlucky Schalke
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 Feb 20 12:59
yep, a bit of a boedom bet, and 30/1 shot bust your laying 300/1 shots Sad
By:
bigH
When: 15 Feb 20 17:14
ouch!

By:
mega88
When: 16 Feb 20 00:00
I see psg also ended 4-4, ul Schalke.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 16 Feb 20 01:03
People will jump on it but its harder than it looks, laying 0-0s seems easy until one happens and takes half the bank or even the whole bank in one foul swoop

Its tough but doesn't look it
By:
Coachbuster
When: 16 Feb 20 01:56
2 lots of 4-4s in less than 24 hours

who'd've  thought it ?
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 16 Feb 20 02:00
Neither really shock me coach as Hull/Swansea are both incapable of basic defending, some of those goals were pathetic defending for a professional football side

PSG don't bother with defending as they are that much better than the rest in that league they can just outscore them, but occasionally they do throw in a stinker defensivally
By:
Coachbuster
When: 16 Feb 20 15:17
any 4-4 shocks me  lol


as for 0-0s ...i would only buy that score  ,esp in the EPL ,seems to be the most common score in that rancid league
By:
Coachbuster
When: 16 Feb 20 15:22
it certainly feels like it  ...boring feckin league it is
By:
wolf3011
When: 17 Feb 20 12:01
He isnt actually laying 4-4 though is he , as gibmark correctly says he's laying 1-1 as the score is already 3-3 when the bets put on taking any value out of it. Bearing in mind how many late goals there on in football, to lay a 3-3 hoping it won't finish 4-4 to win £20 using a stake of £790 is betting suicide really but sometimes logic goes out of the window for all of us placing bets.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 17 Feb 20 12:33
yep, you will lay more winners if you lay 30/1 shots than if you lay 300/1 shots
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 17 Feb 20 14:17
I'm sure Schalke04 is fine but yes there's no logic in betting such shorties to win pennies and laying massive amounts to win the same pennies

We've all seen games that are turgid affairs, 0-0 after 65 minutes and one goal sparks a massive goal fest and the game finishes 3-3 or 3-2, 5 or 6 goals in 25 minutes, and when you've seen it there's no longer a shock factor when you see it again, the first time it happens to you you are in a state of shock though Sad esp if £250+ has been lost

You can't think straight for hours
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 17 Feb 20 14:22
I've had it all happen to me, horses clear coming to the last but falling, horses that have actually jumped the last but stumbled on the run in and unseated the rider, horses clear and somehow running off the main track, 3 goals in stoppage time to kill an unders, missed penalties in laying 0-0 draws etc etc the list goes on

But I still come back LaughHappy because lets be honest we all love it really
By:
Coachbuster
When: 17 Feb 20 23:23
I think the beauty of laying 4-4 from the start is that you do get enough time to buy out at a loss (if you choose so )

I'm looking at all the Championship seasons going back , 520 games a season and an average of just over 1 per season ...even a handful of 5-5 draws in the mix   ....

premier league from 2000 to 2013  was producing a 4-4  every season on average   ...so on reflection and  taking note of our friends stats on here  from thois season ,and the 2 new arrivals  ....not forgetting this season the 5-5 draw in the league cup   ....

then i estimate an average of around 600-1 per occurence  .....  some games like  Dortmund v PSG  will start around 120 lol   ....other games ,esp Atletico Madrid  you canm't even lay for 1000 unless u join a long queue
By:
Coachbuster
When: 17 Feb 20 23:28
it's a very curious/quirky bet ... and one i've taken a lot of interest in ...  there was a 4-4 one time that was 0-0 at 45 minutes  Laugh  ...also another couple which were 1-0 .



it's hard to know if there is a catalyst  ..   it's a crazy score for sure .

in 1997 there were 3x of  4-4s in one Championship season
By:
Coachbuster
When: 17 Feb 20 23:32
I was watching old Norwich v Southampton highlights the other day  which ended 5-4   ...and during the first half it looked like a 0-0 was on the cards  . there wasn't  much going on until the 37th minute
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 17 Feb 20 23:36

Feb 17, 2020 -- 11:28PM, Coachbuster wrote:


it's a very curious/quirky bet ... and one i've taken a lot of interest in ...  there was a 4-4 one time that was 0-0 at 45 minutes    ...also another couple which were 1-0 .it's hard to know if there is a catalyst  ..   it's a crazy score for sure .in 1997 there were 3x of  4-4s in one Championship season


We drew 4-4 in the PL. Think it was 4-3 at half-time, can't remember which way round though think we might have been ahead and against 10 men. The distribution of goals in high-scoring matches may not be as obvious as it seems. Definitely half-time has some impact on games which you can't mitigate for.

By:
Coachbuster
When: 18 Feb 20 00:08
ahh yes Bradford City Darlo  ... that's on the listings  Grin


forgot to mention 3x 4-4s  from 07/08 in the EPL
By:
Coachbuster
When: 18 Feb 20 00:17
that 4-3  at half time must be a  one off darlo Laugh
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