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just watched All or nothing documentary and couldnt work out the point of Brian Kidd being there..he wasnt included in any discusiions and walked about as if he was an embarrassed uninvited guest..is he just included because of his past allegiances with United?
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been thinking that myself for a while,sometimes see him on the bench at city games ,pep rarely seems to acknowledge
him.I predict he will retire at end of season . |
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Maybe they need reminding what a European Cup winners medal looks like.
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Was strange in that documentary.
Never spoke a word to camera. Didn't seem to interact with any staff or players. Even in the mini-cinema he sat at the back alone. Most he seemed to do, was encouraging claps of his hands, in the dressing room. |
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I watched the first episode and was gonna ask of anyone who saw the whole thing if Kidd's presence was ever explained.
The one I saw he was a like a bloke that had wandered into a wedding reception, that nobody knew, but everybody assumed had been brought by someone else there. |
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well glad to see my thoughts arent out of sync...cant dispute the quality of citys play but wonder what will happen to them when guardiola moves on...it wont be long by his previous standards and a telling moment for me was when he was telling players he was prepared to defend players to the death in public ie with Sky Sports interviews...he wont do in private...interesting to see how long Sheik mansour..not a regular visitor at all.. will retain interest !
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well glad to see my thoughts arent out of sync...cant dispute the quality of citys play but wonder what will happen to them when guardiola moves on...it wont be long by his previous standards and a telling moment for me was when he was telling players he was prepared to defend players to the death in public ie with Sky Sports interviews...he wont do in private...interesting to see how long Sheik mansour..not a regular visitor at all.. will retain interest !
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well glad to see my thoughts arent out of sync...cant dispute the quality of citys play but wonder what will happen to them when guardiola moves on...it wont be long by his previous standards and a telling moment for me was when he was telling players he was prepared to defend players to the death in public ie with Sky Sports interviews...he wont do in private...interesting to see how long Sheik mansour..not a regular visitor at all.. will retain interest !
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Completely agree about Kidd.
Had exactly the same conversation with my mate who also watched the doc. |
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He made a good point about Aguerro. How the hell can you live and play football in a country for 8 years and not speak any of the language?
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he puts the persil in the washing machines in the kit room
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Madrid fans turning on Bale for that reason...
City fans wint turn on Aguero,neither should they,but it does seem a tad strange,first thing I'd want to do I think. Even if just for team mates. |
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Did anyone else used to think the same when he was at United management too - never really understood what he did?
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Heck of a striker as a player mind...
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its a crime not to learn the language and every club should insist on it
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Kidd was briliant at United when fergie was there , he knows the all the right contacts in Manchester
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Fair enough, so was it more of a scouting role?
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yep would agree with that , he did a lot with youth team
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so why did utd let him go?
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Ok, that makes some sense can see.
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He went to Blackburn didnt he wanted to be the no 1 , didnt suit him being manager i think
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ah reet remember now,didnt it put safs nose out of joint?seem to remember
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n 1999, a rift developed between Kidd and Alex Ferguson after Kidd was strongly criticised in Ferguson's autobiography Managing My Life. Ferguson was angered that when Kidd was his assistant manager he had questioned United's 1998 summer signing of striker Dwight Yorke. Ferguson criticised Kidd's footballing judgement and wrote in his book: "I saw Brian Kidd as a complex person, often quite insecure, particularly about his health." Kidd was upset at Ferguson's attack on him and responded by saying: "I believe Walt Disney is trying to buy the film rights to his book as a sequel to Fantasia."[8]
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wounding from bk,wounding i say
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lol all about selling books
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Quite telling that Kidd still refers to Fergie as The Boss
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you can have a bang about row with someone,call eack other all kinds,but put something in print and lose a lifelong friend,might be the mildest thing too
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The Aguero thing is bizarre really isn't it? 8 years with unlimited time and money; could have learned to speak it in months. Extremely odd.
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Wasn't Tevez the same?
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i didnt know that about aguero, seems a strange one given his longevity at city and the fact he doesnt seem like a retard.
not that it matters though, hes a true master craftsman on the park, theres not been many that have done it better. |
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Many players who spent years in England and either never spoke in English or made little attempt, was either because they didn't feel comfortable enough to do so or because they didn't want the extra media work, in some cases they didn' want to be misinterpreted, including managers such as Pochettinho at Southampton, Bielsa at Leeds and more peculiarly, Sarri at Chelsea, which is strange as to me his English is very good. In player examples, Pires I don't think ever said a word in English during his time in the Premier League, yet post career has given many interviews in the language, Valencia was made Man United captain but after over a decade in the country I don't think I've ever heard him speak English, I've heard some native Spanish speakers say Alexis Sanchez apparently doesn't even speak Spanish that well so not a surprise after all this time he hasn't spoke the lingo either.
I would have thought however given how big a global brand Neymar and Messi are, that neither of them speak English, I'd have thought they money men around them, the sponsors, would be wanting them to be as marketable as possible, in the same way Ronaldo is, especially given English is the International business langague rather than Spanish/Portguese. |
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The thing is, bar some one liners on a Coca Cola ad or whatever they don't NEED to speak English.
They let their image and ability do the talking. They aren't expected to have 10 minutes with John Humphries. |