'Easily'?! Leicester are clearly a decent side, but before their victory over Arsenal in their last home game last season, they had failed to win any of their previous 7 games at home, against some really poor sides:

Lost to West Ham 0-2
Drew with Southampton 0-0
Lost to Newcastle 1-2
Lost to Chelsea 1-2
Drew with Bournemouth 1-1
Drew with Stoke 1-1
Drew with Swansea 1-1

Granted it was better before that, but personally I'd rather go there than to Selhurst Park. Think Palace only won three away games all last season... but they are a good side at home.

Agree to disagree indeed. Just opinions at the end of the day. But considering there were only 3 points between the sides last season, I think its wrong to say one is 'easily' tougher than the other, especially when you account for the fact Palace had a much superior home record.

Fancy a charity bet on which team gets more points at home this season?!

spot on dds

Mafe. Leicester actually got 1 more point at home than Palace last season looking at it... You've got the value

CCM, happy to take you up on that

bit of a myth that spurs are heavily reliant on kane. scored something like 28 goals in 12 league games or parts of league games after he went off injured or was sub in the last 2 seasons. results have not been significantly worse. eriksen is more irreplaceable to spurs imo. he makes the team tick. of course if he missed a lot of games it might be different but that would apply to liverpool equally. they can't possibly replace salah adequately

Bit harsh Figjam, considering the whole premise of this thread is me saying Liverpool are too short and should be a similar price to Spurs!!! Yet I've still got rose tinted glasses on

You also missed off the three very important words after the part of my quote you have highlighted....

I couldn't agree more. We shouldn't be fav's at your place. Especially considering the Brazilian contingent play their last game in the early hours of Wednesday morning in the US.

think the title 2 runners man city and liverpool think spurs will finish 3rd small squad will come back to bite them when champions league begins my top 4 man city liverpool spurs man utd now my team chelsea they have got no defence they are a shambles my big tip for this season one of the top 4 will beat chelsea by 5 or 6 goals trust me its a accident waiting to happen and they won't finish in the top 4 as for arsenal again they have no defence same as chelsea

Exactly.. will soften the blow if I lose! Have started a separate thread for ease...

Hard to know... Firmino is the player we are most reliant on imo as nobody else does what he does. Wondering if we might see Salah or Mane play up front if he is absent this season. Both play their for their country, have all the attributes required, and then Shaqiri can fill in their old position.

Shouldnt be an issue for the goalie and Fabinho not starting yet anyway.

Surprised you are so negative dr, but pleasing to hear for my 13/8 on Spurs top London club bet.

ccm thats a great bet the only way you get beat if kane out for 5mths

Yeah sounds a good bet mate

Yeah true enough Mafe.

4/6 Dr...

Good luck, probably not for me at that price.

everything got a price ccm even at 1t10 it's what you make it and i make it 4t7 so will keep putting money up to i get it on

Transfer windows are as much about keeping players rather as buying new ones.

Many new signings are very disappointing whilst others turn out to be fantastic. Can be a lottery though.

Spurs were vulnerable (as is any club) to bids for Kane, Eriksson, Ali, Alderw.. and Trippier. They kept all 5 and look a settled outfit. Making no signings was seen as a failure by pundits and bookies alike. Not an opinion I share.

Man U look disjointed, lop sided and who knows what their best team is? City added 1. They had no need to do more business.

LFC had clear and obvious needs. Keeper, CB and CM. They addressed all 3 and there's rightful confidence that they can go from 4th to top 2. Their price to win the thing is v unattractive though.

liverpools price has contracted antepost was around 5/1 from memory

Chelsea aren't going to win the league. You will get out of your group with your reserves. Will be able to assess top 4 in Feb, right now it looks good for Chelsea anyway, but if it isn't Europa League is also another way in given Chelsea will probably be favourites for it in Feb.

One important point that I've not seen mentioned is that the 2 markets mentioned originally are not as connected as people seem to think. I'd love Spurs to win the league but i think 12/1 compared to 3/1 Liverpool and 4/6 City is about right. City are very likely to hit 90+ points and I don't see Tottenham getting to that level. It's possible Liverpool could. However I do agree with the OP that the without City prices are way too far apart. Tottenham look extremely solid once again and highly likely to rack up plenty of points so if Liverpool don't live up to expectations Tottenham could easily pip them to 2nd. 9/2 is a big price. Tottenham don't actually have to win anything to get paid out on this market.

Tottenham also have much more depth than people seem to realise on this thread. The only person they don't have good cover for is Kane and that's a problem they will always have. No top class striker is likely to sign and be 2nd choice. However, Son has already proved he can do a job through the middle and Moura clearly showed he can play up there too. For a game or two it's not a major issue. Obviously it would be if Kane got a more serious injury.

Spurs were in a two horse race with Leicester for the title a few years ago. They finished 3rd.