MANCHESTER UNITED

VAR has reduced mistakes. No question about that. For me, it's just a question of cost. How long do you want to wait before you can properly celebrate a goal? And is the reduction in mistakes worth that? It's a no for me.

If VAR was reducing more mistakes than it is reinforcing mistakes it would be regularly praised.

I don't think VAR is generally getting criticised for making wrong decisions. Even your ones yesterday are more about interpretation than obvious wrongness. The criticism is about time taken and how it's ruining the atmosphere.

It hasn't reduced mistakes because every single week we are left debating whether such a such decision was correct or not, you can argue that with many situations being subjective then it's bound to be the case but that should have been considered before VAR was created.

Situations occurring in a football match are typically not solved in an exact science way which means by absolute definition that we shouldn't be trying to be scientific with it.

I don't disagree but we'd had a decade of high profile managers saying how the standard of refereeing was terrible and we needed better. Never going to change now. Too much money in the game to go backwards and no chance clubs in the EPL will accept a referee being a human and just getting one wrong, and saying "hey, it'll even itself out".

I don't think VAR is generally getting criticised for making wrong decisions.

Really??

It's criticized every week for not getting decisions right.

It might be naievity on my part but I honestly believe that in the wake of living with VAR, if we did revert back to life without it, there wouldn't be the moaning and groaning there used to be, and whatever there was would be short lived because we've seen the alternative.

Let's get one thing straight, there is nothing wrong with the VAR's equipment.

It is the rules the VAR works to.

Lots of sports use video to get decisions right; rugby, basketball, American football, ice hockey, F1, none of them are as controversial as football's VAR.

At the heart of VAR's problems is the subjective opinion of the Referee.

To be fair that is not vars fault.

They (pgmol Epl) want to allow contact, wrestling, and shirt pulling.
Up to a certain, but undefined level.

Makes it difficult for var because ref has a view, and var should
not change tight subjectivity decisions.

The crucial difference with American Football is that the part of the game that is highly subjective, "pass interference", isn't reviewable, and that is because they realize they'd be stopping and checking all the time and the subjective nature of it would come under even more scrutiny.

In Football keep VAR for offsides and violent conduct but not fouls for pens or handballs which are subjective would be what I'd like to see, go with the on field team for that.

Never mind the better run we've been on, I think Carrick shouldn't get the job by losing to this Newcastle side alone....f00king hopeless

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Maguire 1 year extension earlier this week (2nd yr club option) for a reduction from 190,000 to 120,000 weekly reportedly...

seems fair enough to me, he's becoming a bit injury prone you could argue but probably gets summer off and needn't be viewed as a starter next season but much cheaper than bringing in someone equivalent on a fee + wages...going need a lot of funds for centre mf...

The Maguire extension is a reasonable move for reasons stated - in both boxes he's still got much to offer. As stated, most money available needs to go on the midfield.

Looking forward, we need defenders who can defend higher and can be left 1v1 - this has so much impact on the rest of the team. Obviously not Maguire's forte - nor maybe de Ligt or Martinez, though both bring other qualities (when fit). Yoro and maybe Heaven could fit the bill but too early to judge either.

its a bit of a deludicional ? question .. i support everton and have only known of 1 maybe 2 fans too change from everton to liverpool or the other way round in my life ... 2 i reckon in 40 years ... wt about in manchester how many u encounted? u no u gotta take there answer no uda .. efc for life x me  x

A shocking result but I suppose if we can stumble over the CL qualification line whilst in the process have enough poor results so as to put the skids on Carrick's appointment then it would be no bad thing.

The performance was far worse than the result imo. Seemed to have about 312 days to prepare for this game and looked like we had no idea what Leeds were going to do or how to deal with it. If we can't cope without the likes of Maguire and Mainoo then it says it all about the standard at the moment.

Red card was ridiculously harsh imo but to be fair we should have been 3 or 4 down by that point. To make no changes personnel wise before that or even at half time was very strange to say the least and not encouraging for Carrick in terms of how his stint will be judged.

Next season is going to be far busier, games wise, going to need an experienced, been there done it bloke in charge.

I don't expect us to get anything out of Chelsea, City went to another level in the second half against them, probably playing the best football of the season but Chelsea weren't bad in the first half and caused them some problems, that level will be enough to put the frighteners up us.

I'd think Chelsea and man utd fairly similar at
the moment.

World Cup and next season on agenda.

We've played both, recently, and despite our lads being
on beach too didn't seem overwhelmed.

Unfortunately for us, we are the only side that your lot look any good against

Beat Chelsea too.

But yeah.

That was horrific especially in the context of what a big moment it was in terms of wrapping up CL football..
the only positives the crowd and players reaction after going down to 10 and came quite close to getting an undeserved point...
Martinez red felt a bit harsh for a variety of reasons (eyes were on the ball, got an arm in the face from C-Lewin and minimal force/violence) but those are just an automatic red so as soon as picked up by VAR was going to be off...

Too long a break may have a small impact but the general incompetence of the performance until losing a man was beyond that and a horrible audition for Carrick..there has been a feeling results have slightly outstripped performance levels so maybe due that but shows the benefits also of being patient in terms of Carrick's future..

Nagelsmann seems to be quite heavily linked by the more credible parts of the media and that was before last night..an exciting young coach but think any optimism would be very tempered on the back of Europe's last couple of shiny new things..

Iraola available. Should be near the top of the list surely.

Next season will be busier (we technically can't play any fewer games!), let's hope it features Champions League matches rather than Europa League. Mentioned a few games ago I'd bite your hand off for 5th place as the results were better than performance and I stand by that.

Though there's nothing Carrick can do about it to prove otherwise, there's no evidence of how he would build a squad and deal with having games on a more regular basis. Choosing a coach with at the very least some European match experience is a must for me.

Don't see Iraola as an option - he seems to be set on returning to Spain (Bilbao) and I while he has been excellent at Bournemouth, I see him as more of an overachieving underdog type coach rather than one who will bring a dominant style that the best teams tend to have.

Let's keep it simple and sensible, appoint a manager that has proven top level experience, that's what United should be looking at.

Like most jobs, look for someone qualified to do the job you're asking them to do, that's all you can do.

Appointing bright new shiny things that have had success at smaller clubs has not got a good recent track record, certainly not in the EPL and certainly not when they've had to deal with European football too.

The likes of Iraola, who seems set on Spain anyway and Glasner wouldn't be the route I'd like to see them go down.

United are easily the biggest club outside of Spain.

They should have a glittering squad of players and a top top manager.

They should also have a mega stadium.

We all know the reality

I'm not sure I enjoy us doing an Arsenel and celebrating the top 4 trophy.
Might have been different if it was last day of the season or something but with five games to go ?.

I said in January if Carrick got us around 2 point per game until the end of the season he'd have done really well but he's even surpassed that .

So why am I not enthused by him.

Our performances have nose dived since his first game and largely we're getting more points than we deserve.

Our energy has disappeared and we look slow and lethargic again after Amorim (who was a disaster) had us fitter and more dominant.

Carrick shorter training sessions and more days off is just not working.

He's also slow and ponderous in game.
Tonight Mbeumo and Sesko looked goosed around the hour mark yet he just stood there watching.

When he got appointed I looked up the Middlesbrough fans opinion of him.
No plan B, preffered 11, slow to make changes, no rotation,

I think he hasn't changed.


Having said all that if we can't get someone like Ancollotti or Simione I'd stick with him for a season of consolidation rather than a new project manager who wants to prove his way is right over being pragmatic

At the end of the day we are going to be back in the CL and I don't think it matters how we get there the fact of just getting there will open up the field by way of attracting potential managers and quality players.

I think it unlikely that they will give Carrick the job with a CL campaign in play.

Top 6 was a minimum and something that I expected at the very least if the new signings proved in any way decent even with a failed manager in tow and CL was a big bonus that will now give us the chance to really expediate some some real sustainable improvement.

The Summer transfer dealings should now be quite exciting I think!!!

I didn't see anything at Stamford Bridge yesterday to give hope that United can challenge for the title anytime soon.

Maybe we'll get past Grimsby Town next season.

You didn't need to Nobby, the point is that getting back into the CL and looking more attractive to potential additions at least puts us onto the right lines.

They've still got to get the right players in but I don't care what anyone says, if you gave the position we are in to any sensible United fan at the start of the season they would have took it, I don't care about analysing performances and debating whether or not we deserved it, it's a means to and end, it's as simple as that.

DITTO once again and an even more stark example of getting the result but in the process all that we need to improve underlined time and time again.

Dominated from a possession based stand point and giving up far too many good chances on aother day Brentford might have scored five goals.

But it's all about CL qualification and getting a proven manager with experience in that sphere going forward IMO.

I thought Carrick had the look tonight of a man who'd been told he'd be leaving at the end of the season.

I thought it strange how Neville and co praised Carrick for changing it at half time but from what I saw in the second half, we looked less threatening whilst we still gave away as many decent chances and possession.

Second half was definitely a lot less end to end, which I suppose was the plan at 2 nil up, although it could quite easily have been 2 or 3 each. No attacking intent, as we played for the final 10 minutes, never sits well with me and there could be no complaints if Brentford had equalised.

I guess Carrick would say he has done what he has needed to get wins on the board and to get the job done. Rather than playing a better type of football as we saw in his first 2 or 3 games. I do wonder if there is a stage where he may look to get a performance rather than just the result, but with Liverpool up next it's unlikely.

It's all gone very quiet on the new stadium front.

Would I be right in thinking that after all the hullabaloo they haven't even put a shovel in the ground yet?

Might need to wait for a new mayor?

Despite initially agreeing to invest P T Barnum has withdrawn funding on the grounds the design is just too ridiculous.

With air fuel and petrol prices as they are, it’s unlikely Man United could fill a bigger stadium.

Pleasing scenes. Could have been more comfortable. All focus now will surely be on the manager situation for next season.

I think that game sits in the negative colmn as far as Carrick is concerned and was another example of a "moment" of quality amongst another indifferent performance as a whole that dug us out of the mess that was created , for the most part by the change at half time, which laid bare all of our shortcomings and also gave the impression that Carrick did not know what to do to correct it.

I really will be bothered if he gets the job, it's annoying me why we continually hark back to nostalgic emotive choices and the United way when looking to the future, especially when you consider that the job he has done, which has had it's fair share of red flags by the way, bears no resemblance to the job he would be tasked with next season and which he has zero experience of ever doing in the past.

Got v lucky against a p i s s poor Liverpool side

But fair play you set out to get Champs league football and you have got it.

I found this on twitter and it sums up my thoughts but is put far better than I could so good post cantonadevils which his handle ironically harks back to a better period

Manchester United fans say they want a modern rebuild but keep circling back to former players from the Ferguson era and Michael Carrick is the latest example.

The hype around Carrick feels less about what he has actually proven as a manager and more about what he represents, which are;

1. A familiar face.
2. A club legend.
3. A “safe” emotional pick.

Since Sir Alex Ferguson left, United have repeatedly leaned into familiarity, sentiment, and nostalgia in different forms, described and masked under the guise of United DNA and way.

A club trying to return to the top shouldn’t be asking:“Who reminds us of the good old days?”
It should be asking; Who is objectively best equipped to build a winning football structure?

Michael Carrick may become a top coach in future. That’s possible.

But right now, a lot of the noise feels driven by emotional attachment, not hard evidence.

Manchester United don’t need another comfort appointment and Michael Carrick screams that.

I'd take a 'Michael Carrick' with a couple of title wins under his belt and a fair record in the Champions League - as a manager.

His demeanor says to me he's been told he hasn't got the job.

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Since Sir Alex Ferguson left, United have repeatedly leaned into familiarity, sentiment, and nostalgia in different forms, described and masked under the guise of United DNA and way.

Not sure I really buy in to that idea..

At moments of desperation they've brought back people that fit that and they've steadied the ship massively when they've come in (Carrick and Ole for a reasonable period)..

things have gone most wrong when moving away from Utd DNA (nonsense concept though that is frankly beyond playing decent attacking football) Moyes, Van Gaal, Mourinho - though he had a decent period before it fell apart, ETH and Amorim..not much comfort or emotional attachment in any of them...

Carrick hasn't been entirely convincing performance wise, well though the results stack up and you'd need some convincing he could repeat 3rd or 4th in a stronger heat but as ever there's a lot of what the ideal candidate would look like but a lack of names being mentioned..it doesn't feel an especially strong pool of options currently..

Glasner has long since made himself unappointable and maybe wasn't a great fit for a CL club anyway where the onus is so much more on making the play.. Iraola is clearly a very good coach but has no remotely comparable experience, Nagelsmaan has had a mixed cv to date though highly regarded and obvs no PL experience....Tuchel has signed an extension with the FA, Poch' would be very late to the table if they did get a deal done..which is far from ideal..as ever I'm interested in who these 'ideal' candidates are exactly..

If there is an obvs option then moving on from Carrick makes reasonable sense...if there isn't..it doesn't..

Glasner has long since made himself unappointable and maybe wasn't a great fit for a CL club anyway where the onus is so much more on making the play.. Iraola is clearly a very good coach but has no remotely comparable experience, Nagelsmaan has had a mixed cv to date though highly regarded and obvs no PL experience....Tuchel has signed an extension with the FA, Poch' would be very late to the table if they did get a deal done..which is far from ideal..as ever I'm interested in who these 'ideal' candidates are exactly..

If there is an obvs option then moving on from Carrick makes reasonable sense...if there isn't..it doesn't..

If there is an obvs option then moving on from Carrick makes reasonable sense...if there isn't..it doesn't..

not quite sure why all my responses are being submitted to the moderator..

having written it I will post it if it kills me

I'm quite behind the idea that Carrick has done his job, settled things down and got the results, if not always the performances, required. He was qualified to do this having been a coach as well as a player at United.

The next job is a different one, involving much higher expectations and managing a squad through a season involving Europe (minimum 8 matches now). Ideally you'd want a manager with that experience, being able to manage a squad, rotate players and keep those not playing as happy as you can. Not his fault, but Carrick doesn't have the experience of that.

the problem, as mentioned, comes with identifying candidates. Who can we name? For me, it's about identifying who or what type of manager we want.

Radcliffe mentioned a couple of years back about not switching from one type of manager to another (and then hired 3 at the back Amorim!). So for reasons of a settled squad and clarity in the transfer market, I think that should be a big factor in who's in charge next season.

Tuchel is an obvious candidate, the fact he's signed an extention with England is neither here or there. Just a question about whether the board would be too scared to appoint a guy who'll hold their feet to the fire.

Don't quite think you guys appreciate the good job Carrick has done there. The club was in a right mess before he arrived. He's taken you from 7th to 3rd. No big fuss. No big dramas. Just got some good basic tactics in place, put players in their right positions and motivated them enough to try.

Can't get why you're so keen to bin him off.


At the end of the day, any team relies on its players. If I was a Utd fan (shudders to the tune of YNGAJ) then I'd be willing to give him a go at the transfer kitty and see if his eye for talent is as good as it is for coaching. None of the names mentioned above (Tuchel, Nagelsmann, Iraola, Pocch) scream out as far better.

He's done a very decent job Porcu' - No big dramas. Just got some good basic tactics in place, put players in their right positions and motivated them enough to try.  that covers it extremely well but on close inspection one or two bounces of the ball and not getting the rub in a couple of games and it would all look a lot less polished..
the performances have been a lot less impressive than the results tbh bar the opening two games, otherwise I don't think there'd be much doubt he'd be offered a 2 or 3 year deal all be it on much less than all the big names would command..which may well still happen.

Re Tuchel - if he was keen to get back into club management he wouldn't have signed the extension when he did (Feb 26) , he'd have still had the opportunity to stay on with England if it went well at the WC and nothing better arrived in his intray which was effectively the structure he signed to originally..having committed now to a contract that takes him to the Euros it would be remarkable to see him walk out barring an abject failure in the summer - in which case his stock drops significantly anyway...
He was spoken to by the Utd hierarchy in 2024 summer by most accounts and clearly they weren't aligned at that time so feels even less likely for the being to me.

I would say that other than putting square pegs in square holes he has done little else.

Our results have heavily skewed our actual performances that have been often poor and it has been "moments" of brilliance provided by the new signings and Bruno that have mainly proved the difference. Those quality signings if played correctly, so you can give him credit for that, were always going to provide United with a huge improvement from last year all on their own.

Going forward Carrick would be faced with a completely different job to what he did this season, one that he is has no experience of doing before, it makes no sense.

The Newcastle, Leeds, Brentford, West Ham, Liverpool games were all poor performances and a good few others have been average.

The City and Arsenal games were decent performances but those were right in the immediate aftermath of Amorim's departure, performances have gotten worse progressively but the results, for the most part have held up which has given us a false impression of Carrick's real contribution.

Whoever is appointed is a risk, that's life, but the very least the board can do is to pick someone with the back catalogue of success or at the very least, competent experience in doing the job they are being asked to do.

Carrick makes no sense.

Not many teams are 100% all the time

Winning when playing poorly was a hallmark
of fergie and gratefully accepted.

Carrick did some obvious stuff, and previous guys
signed some obvious players but couldn't put pegs
in right holes.

There's a decent nucleus at man utd at the moment
which probably needs more depth and a few new starters.

Getting right manager is important, but maybe keeping
Carrick on coaching staff would be decent too, lots
of managers would love to have him as a coach.

Tuchel signing the extension does at least provide the FA with a facade of commitment and continuity if nothing else but it wouldn't stop the manager from jumping ship if he wanted to.

A manager turning to a national job is akin to him reaching for the pipe and slippers, Tuchel isn't ready for that yet but yes Tuchel and United have crossed paths before and it wasn't favourable from both sides so reports would have it, however the situation is now different, United have suffered Amorim, a novice that they took a punt on because he was the bright shiny thing and they thought City were after him and that might alter their stance toward a proven heavyweight and from Tuchel's point of view, if they weren't attractive before they certainly are now with decent new signings with more to come and CL football on the table.

I think Neville was right, it would be a strong bold move for Carrick to walk away himself, his stock is high, his time will surely come again and his impact, such as it is, would remain in many fans eyes sitting on the shoulder of the new manager.

Fergie worked with top coaches

Depends on what everybody is happy with.

Yeah, Utd's performances may not have been great all the time, but that just goes back to the quality of the players. Mbuemo looks good, Bruno continues to shine but who apart from them gets near the top two's sides? I'm not sure you could have expected a Tuchel or similar to have done much better with the squad available. It needs a massive overhaul no matter who's in charge, I just wouldn't rush to bin off the guy who's done about as good as possible in the role.

How can Utd have a massive overhaul and not breach PSR

When INEOS came in they assessed that the financial position was very poor hence the haste in the mass sackings
There was a £33m loss in 2024/25 even with a Europa League final

Have had the match revenues from 40 games this season. The lucrative shirt sponsorship will have financial penalties for non performance

So will be interesting to see the scope they have to act. Obviously a centre mid to replace Casemiro but what else??

Clown club

Falling down stadium
Useless management
No coach
Expensive but average players

Small club 'Top 4' ambition

How can Utd have a massive overhaul and not breach PSR

Their last set of financial figures were far better than much of the media had projected, they also restructured their revolving credit facilities and are confident they fall within all current PSR rules, wages were down on headline figures due to no European football and player loans that took some significant money off the wage bill - it was a relatively streamlined squad this season..the cuts made to staff have now kicked in and will knock some off operating costs ? (I guess that comes under)..

Mbuemo, Sesko and Cunha are all on spread payments though the single year cost was a lot less than the headline figure (though obvs will count against the next period and possibly beyond)..they have about 38m to come from Napoli for Hojlund (which apparently means he won't inflict any PSR deficit) ..might be looking at Barca activating Rashford for around 25m..Onana possibly going for around 15m....both Sancho and Casemiro off the books for next season who were the top two earners (though Sancho loans have paid significant chunks of that)

Obviously guaranteed CL is worth a lot - have seen estimates of up to 120m inc matchday revenue, tv money, club tat sales, sponsorship money increases if they were to progress to knockout stage.

I would think they have the ability to spend about 150m -200m if again paying over extended periods once all those figures are done - not that it goes very far these days..probably looking at 2 central MF's and maybe a left back (possibly another attacking option if one of those doesn't happen.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13512009/man-utd-financial-results-omar-berrada-believes-club-seeing-benefits-of-redundancy-programme-as-profits-rise-despite-fall-in-revenues

an article that covers some of it form when last figures were released in Feb

brentford,

That is an impressive grasp of the situation me old mate

very kind, sir.

interesting analysis Brentford

will be a shortened transfer window this year because of the world cup

some of the transfer amounts attached to Elliot Anderson look crazy high

I remember saying a long while back whilst Amad was the shining light in an otherwise poor team that in a fully functioning decent United side in the fullness of time that he wouldn't be a part of it.

I think might come to pass.

Carrick getting job, to be announced before end of season

Apparently...

I suppose Carrick ticks the most important box of all, that being he will be malleable, happy to have the job, extremely unlikely to hold the boards feet to the fire, yep, he'll do nicely.

And the added kicker is that when it all goes wrong the board can sit back and say, as they did with OGS, that they were only giving all those fuzzy nostalgic fans hamstrung by the United way and DNA, what they wanted.....yep he'll do nicely.

11pts clear of Liverpool and 19 ahead of Chelsea is ridiculous really, whether you view that from the start of the season or even the New Year. Even more unlikely is that we beat Brighton and also Danny Welbeck didn't score against us! (PS please no Baleba in the summer)

Said it a few times, but it shows the poor quality this season. Arsenal were deserved title winners but only really down to one of the poorest City sides of the last decade and no other challenger.

Back in the CL is a step in the right direction, whether it leads to anything we'll have to wait and see, the signings were enough to improve our position in what turned out to be a poor league but the quality of the performances are still a big cause for concern and something the Carrick supporters haven't seemed to grasp, only seeing the result.

It's a massive Summer now and the midfield additions are going to have to be the right ones to enable us to gain more control in games and not concede so much possession, winning the ball back quicker and allowing our defence to not have to defend every counter launched by the opposition.

The bottom line though when all said and done is that we would have taken this at the start of the season.

Didn't see today's performance or result coming but rounds off a very nice end to the season..

entirely agree with the views that much still to prove for the club just not to go backwards but can at least enjoy and breathe again after last couple of seasons and indeed 3 of the last 4  - places the club in a much more stable and positive position to approach the summer transfer window..

Carrick regardless of views about his future deserves a lot of credit for the calm he's brought to a situation that could have just spiralled even further..

he's probably earned a shot at the gig in the process but next season  will be tougher - not least game to be played ..but difficult to believe Chelsea, L'pool and even Spurs won't be better and back in the fight for top 6 along with Villa and maybe N'castle depending on how they can deal with PSR this summer..

At least the WC will fill a large chunk of the Summer and before we know it we'll be off again

Wow! We came third in the worst Premier League in donkey's years.

Biggest eye opener for me was seeing pictures of Metropolitano Stadium.

We are 10 years behind the opposition and stuck with **** owners and **** management.

And without 32 year old Bruno Fernandes we'd be lucky to finish in the top 10.

I agree fully with the comments re the stadium, owners etc. It's almost a running joke that whenever we have a decent 2 or 3 months the noise over the Glazers, the leaking roof and now the total non progress of a new stadium goes quiet. It shouldn't.

It's strange (but also predictable) that Radcliffe and co. came in with the allowance to have a say over footballing matters only, yet seem to talk the talk and also take the flak (often rightly so) about all aspects of the club. The Glazers will be delighted that part of their plan has played out perfectly.

So, lots to do on and off the pitch. But surely there hasn't been a better chance in the last decade for a team to grasp the nettle and take advantage of a real vacuum of top class competition - especially in the Premier League. We can hope.......

Amad
2 goals
2 assists

Not good enough.

We need 2 defenders,2 strikers.at least.

Bruno got a 57 million release clause, but open to stay

Negotiations ongoing.

Amad has been p***ed about all season.

Today’s the day,1999.

Nou camp,27 years ago.

Manchester United are close to agreeing a deal with Atalanta for Ederson.

Talks are in the final stages over a fee in the region of £38m. Sources expect the fee to be broken down into a £35m guaranteed payment plus £3m in add-ons.

A full agreement for the midfielder could be reached by the end of the week

All Or Nothing

The club secured the biggest-ever fee for Amazon Prime Video's 'All or Nothing' series, topping previous deals with Manchester City, Arsenal, and Tottenham. Filming starts this pre-season under manager Michael Carrick, who guided them to third place and Champions League qualification last term. Chief communications officer Toby Craig said it's the right time for transparency, letting global fans see behind the scenes at the new Carrington complex and beyond. The windfall boosts commercial efforts amid INEOS influence, with supporters excited for potential glory captured on screen.

These fly-on-the-wall documentaries are just vanity shows. No billion pound business let's a film crew lose in their organisation.

The club will have asked for, and been granted, final editing rights too.

Any news on the Circus tent?

Andrey Santos from Chelsea for 50m deal agreed according to sky..

still waiting on Ederson's 2nd part of medical

So that's the 3rd and 4th string midfielders through the door just need the two main ones now, although those are already playing for City and Spurs

yes, would be nice to see a 'splash' MF signing at least...not helped by Ugarte's injury so not sellable now until January I'd guess..

seen very little of Santos but he's only recently 22 and with Chelsea's options in MF was getting limited chances, apparently he was a player on their radar from a while back though whether that's a good thing

worrying how little Ederson played for Brazil..

At least we haven't got to pay Ugarte's wages for the foreseeable.

Manchester United to build new 100,000-seat stadium 350m away from Old Trafford
Master plan for £2bn ‘Stadium District’ unveiled weeks after club secure 25 acres of land near existing home





Manchester United have confirmed they will build their new 100,000-seat stadium 350 metres from Old Trafford.

The club and Trafford Council unveiled the master plan for the Trafford Wharfside project at United’s home on Thursday morning.

It included artists’ impressions of the £2bn “Stadium District” in which the new stadium would sit following last month’s announcement United had secured 25 acres of land north west of Old Trafford.

The triangular plot – located between Wharfside Way, Europa Way and John Gilbert Way – was acquired from Indurent, a leading UK-based industrial and logistics real-estate company owned by global private-equity giant Blackstone.

United had spent months locked in protracted talks with Freightliner to acquire land around Old Trafford but baulked at the valuation put on it by the maritime intermodal logistics operator.

Some reports claimed Freightliner was demanding as much as £400m, although well-placed sources said those figures were inflated.

The decision not to build on the existing Old Trafford footprint could allow United to continue playing in front of a capacity crowd while the new stadium is being built.

The artists’ impressions appear to indicate the existing arena would then be demolished, but the club said no decision had been taken over its future.

Collette Roche, chief executive, New Stadium Development, at Manchester United, said: “The publication of the Wharfside Masterplan marks another significant milestone in our journey to create a new world-class home for Manchester United at the heart of a vibrant and transformational district for Trafford and Greater Manchester. Together with our partners, we have a once-in-a-generation opportunity to deliver a destination that creates lasting benefits for supporters, local communities and the wider region for decades to come.

“The proposed stadium site is ideally located alongside Old Trafford, enabling us to preserve the heritage, traditions and matchday rituals that are so important to our supporters, while also providing the connectivity and infrastructure required to deliver a truly world-class fan experience.

“We are committed to building a world-class stadium with our supporters, not simply for them. Atmosphere, affordability and accessibility will remain at the heart of our plans, and we look forward to continuing our engagement with fans and other stakeholders as we move into the next phase of design and development.”

The new stadium has been planned as the centrepiece of a regeneration that would create 48,000 local jobs and 15,000 new homes, adding £7.3bn per annum to the UK economy.

Cllr Tom Ross, leader of Trafford Council, said: “We are delighted to introduce the master plan which starts a long journey to piece together what could happen where, to bring this world-class cultural and sporting destination to life.

“We want to create a great place to be, not just on matchdays but every day – and we’re looking for as many residents and businesses as possible to help us to shape this vision, through our forthcoming consultation process.

“Wharfside will become a network of attractive neighbourhoods in which to live, work, wander, explore, relax with family, enjoy nature and wildlife, meet friends, eat out, have a drink, shop and be entertained.

“It will have the best of parks and waterside spaces, housing including affordable options in vibrant and diverse localities, new health and educational facilities, joined-up public transport and places to walk, cycle and be active.”

Garnacho, told to find a new club.

Club have been rather quiet in the transfer window.

Is Carrick going to put his faith in the youngsters?

I bet Rashford thought he had a chance of staying at Barca. He played well there and i'm amazed they didn't at least extend the loan period. Is he finished at Man Utd though?

Utd didn't want another loan so once the buy option wasn't taken that was that for the time being..not inconceivable if no deals get done that he could go back on loan there but unlikely you'd think as they've spent decent money on the position with Gordon...

Club have been rather quiet in the transfer window.

Is Carrick going to put his faith in the youngsters?

still spent 85m ish (Santos, Tielemans) with almost certainly one or two more to come I'd have thought...don't think they'll be able to get Hall now as Newcastle have lost so many of late - would probably only be at a daft price now..

Shea Lacy has had some nice moments in pre season and I think is viewed as being worth a genuine squad place at least to see how he goes this season..the Fletcher lads I'd expect to get some more minutes this season as well with the time they've now been around the 1st team and the number of games this year..

Very disappointing window, the fans are being asked, and many have swallowed, the we're skint and are therefore being sensible BS, they've missed all their targets and saw Tielemans going relatively cheap and they thought they could placate the fans , oh, he's good, the fans will fall for that one so they snapped him up.

The board have reached their zenith in CL qualification, the money will keep rolling in so no need to push for honours as that is not a necessity.

We have seen through this window precisely why Carrick was given the job, happy to be here and no pressure being applied from his direction.

We are now having this notion that Rashford and injury prone Mount are akin to new signings and world beaters whilst continually having the Santos is world class narrative being foisted onto us that Chelsea somehow couldn't see.

We needed legs and aggression in the midfield as well as another top striker and we haven't got it done.

Last summer the board did a good job as they needed to get back into the CL, now they've got there they've sat back and not gone again.

I think that's a bit harsh - as I say I'd be amazed if you don't see one more (at least) significant signing, you also have to take into account how much they spent last year when they didn't really have the money so that's rolling in to this seasons finances and approach..

Ugarte's injury has cost then about 20-25m and Rashford not going to Barca about 25 as well...leads to having to avoid the blank cheque approach that some seem to want...PSR is real however much we wish it wasn't..

Santos has definitely looked pretty decent to this point but I do worry that MF athleticism is going to remain an issue when we start plating full speed games, wait and see on that..