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Can't Catch Me
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What’s happened lads? Seems to have vanished?

Is it one of their random forum spring cleans?
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Report TameTheTiger March 4, 2024 9:34 PM GMT
This could be the last week that Liverpool are ever top of the league Scared
Report TameTheTiger March 4, 2024 9:37 PM GMT
I think Rodgers was very unlucky. Liverpool played some fantastic, energetic, very entertaining football under him.
Report loui March 4, 2024 10:05 PM GMT
Time will tell ttt
Report TameTheTiger March 4, 2024 10:16 PM GMT
Indeed it will. I'd luv it if we beat them.
Report Capt__F March 5, 2024 9:36 AM GMT
i would never bet against Jurgen Klopp
Report loui March 5, 2024 10:08 AM GMT
Think he meant Luton Laugh
Report vidou March 8, 2024 3:09 PM GMT
Xabi now 2.7 - not looking like he's got the gig
Report PorcupineorPineapple March 8, 2024 8:01 PM GMT
Simon Hughes has always seemed to be one of the best connected Liverpool journos. He's very much running with Michael Edwards coming back in a very senior role, and Richard Hughes from Bournemouth coming in as the director of football.

Quite happy with this. I've long been a fan of the importance of the team behind the scenes, and was a bit peeved at how Jurgen did a Rafa and just dismantled that set up to get more power. Always feel like we'll get more stability and better quality signings if those more senior positions are filled properly.

Not sure where that leaves us with Xabi. He might not fancy a more limited role, where he's essentially the coach and may be blocked from signings that the committee don't fancy. But it feels like we're maybe not yet looking to recruit a manager, but instead prioritising these other roles. There may well be a move to Xabi in the next week or so and the market could move once things become clearer.
Report The Dragon March 9, 2024 4:15 PM GMT
still the fav and i think he will still get the gig, cant see the sporting guy getting it

has to be xavi
Report Capt__F March 9, 2024 6:48 PM GMT
Need to win tomorrow
hope they go for itCool
Report The Dragon March 9, 2024 6:50 PM GMT
im sure thet will
Report loui March 10, 2024 9:49 AM GMT
Bookies got city at evens, and us nearly 2/1. City favourites yeah, but the real odds are closer
Report Life-Lucky March 10, 2024 10:11 AM GMT
Liverpool rarely lose at home. 4/6 'double chance' Home Win or Draw. I'm on. GL
Report TameTheTiger March 10, 2024 11:51 AM GMT
Double chance is 4/5 if you just lay City on here
Report The Dragon March 10, 2024 1:37 PM GMT
lay of city is the callCool
Report The Dragon March 10, 2024 1:42 PM GMT
ive gone 3-1 correct score, youngest  son has gone 2-2
Report Capt__F March 10, 2024 6:54 PM GMT
should have won
could have lost

still in with a chance
Report rothko March 10, 2024 7:58 PM GMT
thats not a free kick anywhere else on the field ??
FFS sky commentators - well he tried to pull out LaughLaugh
Report PorcupineorPineapple March 12, 2024 3:07 PM GMT
Edwards confirmed.



Must say I'm made up at that and much more optimistic about the future.
Report The Dragon March 12, 2024 3:29 PM GMT
indeedCool
Report rothko March 19, 2024 10:41 AM GMT
Bad result but I suppose we have won late in matches recently.

Should have put the game to bed when we were so dominant in the second half but too many mistakes
Concerned about the new injuries but thats nothing new for us
Next game 31st March v Brighton so hopefully we can get players back
Next 2 home games are must win given that Arsenal go to Cheaty
Then Man Utd away and hopefully lessons have been learned
Report vidou March 19, 2024 1:18 PM GMT
Gutted with result but in hindsight it may have done us a favour, two intense Cup semi-final and final is not something we need right now.
We also have 20 players on international duty this week - wtf is that about at this time of the season? Do players need these non-events flying half way round the world for meaningless friendlies?
Anyway hope all come back safe and sound and ready for the final League and Europa run-in.
Report PorcupineorPineapple March 20, 2024 5:01 PM GMT
Screw the cup, I'm still gutted about this.

https://www.skysports.com/football/video/19530/13098178/match-officials-micd-up-jeremy-doku-challenge-at-anfield-which-divides-opinion


VAR says Doku clearly plays the ball first when the pictures clearly showed MacAllister hit the ball with his chest.  And also described as both players coming in high, but it's only Doku who has a foot over a metre off the ground. And then you have Webb just backing up their lies and not being challenged to explain how Doku didn't get the ball and MacAllister didn't go in high.


Yet another huge decision.
Report loui March 20, 2024 6:42 PM GMT
I’m still going mad over the hand v Everton 2 years ago in about the 88th minute blatant hand ball, VAR stayed very quiet that night, when it was screaming pen. I know every team suffers from var mistakes , but that was a massive bottle job by them . I’m sure there’s better words than bottle job to describe that one
Report The Dragon March 20, 2024 8:38 PM GMT
var dont like scoucers end ofDevil
Report The Dragon March 20, 2024 8:39 PM GMT
lfc not scoucersDevil

fing ****
Report rothko March 20, 2024 9:30 PM GMT
add the odegaard penalty which even howard webb begrudgingly said they got wrong - the excuse they gave for not giving was pathetic - they only thing he didn't do was slam dunk it
Report rothko March 20, 2024 9:40 PM GMT
VAR says Doku clearly plays the ball first when the pictures clearly showed MacAllister hit the ball with his chest.  And also described as both players coming in high, but it's only Doku who has a foot over a metre off the ground. And then you have Webb just backing up their lies and not being challenged to explain how Doku didn't get the ball and MacAllister didn't go in high.

they make it up each week - Ive noticed that a phrase they use now to justify a poor decision well it was just a coming together

So we know now that if you make marginal contact with the ball the follow through doesnt matter - but there must have been a hundred  free kicks given throughout the last few years were the commentators have said well he made contact with the ball but the follow through resulted in a free kick

go back to the 2 yellow cards Jota was given at spurs - yes yellow cards not free kicks - the first one was barely a free kick
Report PorcupineorPineapple March 20, 2024 9:44 PM GMT
You watch it back you can see MacAllister is initially running on to the ball to chest control it but sees Doku launch into the air and so turns sidewards to protect himself from getting seriously hurt.

But that's a coming together apparently. Officials are just corrupt.
Report rothko March 20, 2024 10:02 PM GMT
all tackles are a coming together ffs
Report loui March 31, 2024 11:42 PM BST
Look who’s back on top !!
Report The Dragon April 1, 2024 11:02 AM BST
Coolcity game v arsenal was dreadful but a great outcome- we look so much better than both of them based on those performances

arsenal parked the busCrazy
Report PorcupineorPineapple April 1, 2024 11:05 AM BST
Wanted to post in praise of Alexis MacAllister.


Have to admit I wasn't overly impressed with him at the very start of his career here. But he was out for a few weeks in December and since then his form has been ridiculous. Proper POTY form but he never seems to get the acclaim. The lad can do everything. He tackles hard, reads the game well and his passes are a delight.

An absolute snip at the £35m we paid.
Report rothko April 1, 2024 1:15 PM BST
Endo's emergence has freed him up in midfield to do what he is best at playing the same role for Argentina
He is at his best with the ball at his feet spotting the forward pass
Report The Dragon April 1, 2024 3:53 PM BST
yes PP spot onCool
Report loui April 1, 2024 6:01 PM BST
Macalister's pass to Salah  was lovely and his class is shining through now. Right on cue!
Report PLACEWISE April 2, 2024 12:07 PM BST
I like macalister  but his performances are way overrated so far. I’d say lack’s pace to easy to push off the ball doesn’t dominate games against so called weaker opposition

Had flashes maybe a few really good things every 25 mins a goal,or assist he’d going to go one of two ways step up become one of the best midfielders or he’s going to fade away become average or below with odd flash of brilliance

He has improved last few weeks maybe a month but needs to grab games by the scruff of the neck needs to make difference for me he’s not bad he’s just not great at present
Report loui April 4, 2024 10:47 PM BST
And he slams another one home, keep it up macca
Report The Dragon April 4, 2024 10:55 PM BST
thats a phew  but till on track

les gone beat unired at ot next
Report loui April 5, 2024 10:18 AM BST
Hope you enjoyed them beers last night TD Laugh
Report The Dragon April 5, 2024 4:52 PM BST
red wine louiLaughCrazy
Report The Dragon April 5, 2024 4:55 PM BST
looks like endo will be fit for united game
Report rothko April 7, 2024 8:26 PM BST
only got ourselves to blame

if only we had jota we would have won comfortably

Im surprised we are still on the mix after losing our best forward for so long but apparently back in training this week
Report loui April 7, 2024 9:41 PM BST
Is right Rothko, same as the cup game too many chances missed , not clinical enough lately. Darwin looking awkward today , and Mo out of sorts again , Jurgen needs one more season to iron out the creases. And he knows it.
Report PorcupineorPineapple April 8, 2024 10:06 AM BST
Yep, same story. Reminds me a bit of ~20 years ago when Utd were good but we kept giving them a bloody nose. They're not much different than under Ole - just no real system, players not in position (that Mainoo is honestly one of the most tactically naive players around) and yet he and they have a moment where they do that. Same as under Ole where the reliance is just on individual moments of magic.

We were the opposite really. MacAllister continuing to shine and just bossed the game. Szob again brilliant for 50 mins before fading (not that big an issue as Elliott is the best impact sub in the league) but it's slightly worrying how quickly Dom fades in games. But the team knew what they were doing and we kept carving them open but just couldn't get that right final touch to reflect our dominance on to the scoreboard.

But then this was always the toughest of our final games given the rivalry and we're still joint top on points. City and Arsenal have both got big CL games coming now and they both should really progress so their tricky spell is just coming up now with big games coming twice a week for the next six weeks.
Report Wesdag April 8, 2024 7:06 PM BST
As a gooner, can't see us winning it with our run-in.
That point at OT might be the point that wins it cos I can see you both winning your last 7 matches.
Report rothko April 9, 2024 9:38 AM BST
lets hope both arsenal and man cheaty progress to the semi final of the CL and play each other

I would expect the games will be more intense than the woeful game at the Etihad
Report loui April 9, 2024 5:56 PM BST
I see after this weekend we have 4 away games on bounce. Atalanta next Thursday, Fulham3 days on, Everton wednes after, and west ham at the weekend. Shooting boots need to be on
Report The Dragon April 10, 2024 1:55 PM BST
yup tough period for sure
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! April 11, 2024 1:17 PM BST
Pool fans complaining next years ticket prices going up by
2%
Laugh
How do you pay Klopps bonus if he does the quadruple?
Devil
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! April 11, 2024 9:41 PM BST
Cross quadruple OFF
Losing 3 nil at home
LaughLaughLaugh
Report Wesdag April 11, 2024 9:57 PM BST
Wtf happened there?
Saw you were 0-1 & was expecting a big fight back. Shocked
Report TameTheTiger April 11, 2024 10:00 PM BST
Lifeless and disjointed. Never got into a rhythm. Atalanta took their chances. Well done to them. Its only half time. Blush
Report Wesdag April 11, 2024 10:14 PM BST
ok ta, will have a look at the highlights later
Report TameTheTiger April 11, 2024 10:15 PM BST
That shouldn't take long
Report barstool April 11, 2024 10:35 PM BST
Picked the wrong team---paid the price.
Report TameTheTiger April 11, 2024 11:03 PM BST
The changes at half time made no difference. They looked absolutely clueless.
Report unclepuncle April 12, 2024 7:42 AM BST
Same old, Same old.

Just like the last days of Dalglish - can't defend for toffee and manager has no idea how to stop us being so pourous.

Nine seasons and we have one league title (when nobody else tried due to Covid) and one Champions League win where we got lucky and faced even bigger chokers than ourselves.

Good riddance Jurgen.Angry
Report TCat April 12, 2024 3:22 PM BST
'Pool fans complaining next years ticket prices going up by
2%'  Is this the correct increase if so why the complaints ?
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! April 12, 2024 3:39 PM BST
Correct price
Pool fans are SCRIMPERS
LaughLaughLaugh
Report unclepuncle April 25, 2024 7:13 AM BST
Awfully quiet on this thread lately.Laugh

As with Dalglish it was Crystal Palace and Everton who put the final nails in the coffin.

Taxi for Jurgen can't get there soon enough, not that the new guy they are chasing is going to make any difference.

Will the last person to leave please turn out the lights.Crazy
Report Wesdag April 25, 2024 12:22 PM BST
Tbf, as a gooner, LFC have over-achieved this season given that Klopp had to build a whole new midfield last summer.
Report unclepuncle April 25, 2024 1:11 PM BST
Rothko is so upset that I have been proven 100% right about Klopp that he is trying to diss me in the antepost hit’s thread which is about as shrewd a move as the Pist Offucecsaying there was nothing wrong with the Horizon system.

Don’t worry rothko - just keep your shellsuit on and get your perm sorted and all will get better.
Report PorcupineorPineapple April 26, 2024 8:31 AM BST
Not seen it mentioned in the media, but I think the effect of the new manager being more or less known had a real effect on wednesday. Always inevitable. Players are no doubt thinking about their next move (Salah looks like his mind's elsewhere for instance) and others starting to think about the new guy and their role in the team. Suddenly Klopp's authority is weakened as he's already yesterday's man and you get the relative lack of effort you see at Goodison.

Probably always difficult balance to try to get the man you want, but then also delay it so you don't affect this season.
Report rothko April 26, 2024 9:32 AM BST
There has been speculation for weeks now but I suppose the players now see the end of the Klopp era

Not sure if the speculation has affected the players but its evident that some players have been out of form for weeks including most of the forwards

Salah hasnt been the same since his injury, Nunez is erratic at best and whilst there is a lot of huff and puff about Diaz the end product has been missing, But a special mention for Konate who has been terrible in recent games.

We've really missed Jota as he is our best finisher by a mile
Report PorcupineorPineapple April 26, 2024 9:50 AM BST
Szoboszlai's the weird one for me. Started the season like a bull. Amazing energy. Then he gets injured and comes back and looks like a 40 a day man. We're lucky to get an hour out of him. Wonder if we rushed a few back for the run in when they should have been held back a week or two for more conditioning work.
Report 3 valleys April 26, 2024 12:12 PM BST
Given how our front line have been playing it'd be nice to see Jayden Danns get another chance on Saturday as I agree wholeheartedly with Rothko's points regarding our strikers plus Gakpo not really the class. Fully expect Salah to depart to Saudi this summer hopefully for an obscene amount of money and the we can invest in some top notch finishers
Report SirNorbertClarke April 26, 2024 4:44 PM BST
Will Salah leave in the Summer? They'd pay stupid money for him in the Saudi league
Report TameTheTiger April 26, 2024 9:20 PM BST
Arne Slot it is then.
Report unclepuncle April 27, 2024 9:55 AM BST
Should have let Salah leave last summer when the really big bucks were on offer - doubt we’ll get much more than a quarter of what we could have had.Cry

As for Slot who knows - who’d even heard of him a month ago.
Wish him all the best but the Ten Hag experience at Man Utd does not bode well.Devil
Report rothko April 27, 2024 11:44 AM BST
yes agree about Szoboszlai - he was a passenger on Wednesday night and quite rightly dropped to the bench today

See Bajcetic is on the bench - what a talent but so injury prone
Report EastLower Gooner April 27, 2024 11:57 AM BST
Meh whatever…I saw Luke Littler beat up Arne last Thursday.

Can’t be that good.
Report SirNorbertClarke April 27, 2024 12:32 PM BST
Can I be the first United fan to come here and wish Arle Snot all the best managing Liverpool
Report Des Pond April 27, 2024 1:28 PM BST
Danny Murphy said on MOTD that Szoboszlai has been one of Liverpool's best signings. What are these "experts" being paid for if they can't see what anyone with a bit of football knowledge and a pair of eyes can see? Klopp knows he can't rely on the guy (and a few others), that's why always has to bench him or hook him after 60-odd minutes. Same goes for Richards who said that it is "unlike Liverpool" to miss lots of chances, despite obvious evidence to the contrary. Why can't the well-paid pundits see it?
Report PorcupineorPineapple April 27, 2024 5:45 PM BST
Nah. Szob was excellent earlier in the season. Utterly key to how we play in how much he pressed, his reading of the game and his ability to link up with the attack.

But he was injured through January, came back early and got injured again. Something's just not quite right physically with him.


As for the attack missing chances, I'd still say the bigger issue is the goals we've conceded. You just can't go behind as often as we have this season and expect to challenge. The attack can only ever drag you back into it so many times. I have questions about VVD's captaincy. We're an attack minded team who spend much more time in the oppo's half and I wonder how he can lead a team when often being disconnected from the general play. It's also been obvious that we've needed Klopp at half time to change the set up and gee the players up for the comeback. Henderson was always brilliant at being a mini-manager during a game and we've missed that imo. But we've given ourselves too many hills to climb this season, and spent too much energy chasing games instead of just getting a lead and controlling it. Add a few crucial injuries in and you can see how the team has simply run out of energy.
Report PorcupineorPineapple April 28, 2024 9:29 PM BST
Final thought from me on yesterday.


I know asking to hear the audio is a little bit sour grapes and close to bullying the officials...but I really want to hear what they were all saying around the Gakpo- Areola thing late on. Cos it looks like the ref just waved play on and Gakpo was well entitled to slot it in the net, and then the ref basically calls on the physio and tells Areola to go down as if injured. Feels like he's dropped an absolute clanger there.
Report tobermory April 28, 2024 11:13 PM BST
The Salah/Klopp audio would be interesting too!
Report loui May 6, 2024 11:00 AM BST
Nunez has deleted all his Liverpool stuff on his account, looks a bit ominous. Is he moving on?
Report jedi sophie May 15, 2024 10:06 AM BST
Let's hope so re Nunez. Got progressively worse as season has gone on where you would expect him to improve.
Similarly as above Szoboszlai has been very poor as has Salah. Others for a small1 month spell very costly for Jurgen.The goals drying up has ultimately cost us our chance when sat alongside our fairly porous defense.

Anyway the reason I post for first time in a while is to pay tribute to the finest. Most fun, most passionate, successful manager I've enjoyed as an adult LFC fan. An absolute joy. A phenomenon.who I feel we may very much struggle to replace. Look at Utd, Arsenal for examples. Absolutely loved Klopp for the majority of his tenure.
Wish him well in absolutely whatever he chose to do.
My own small criticism would be his loyalty to players clearly not good enough at begining of his tenure, and possibly similar at end of his tenure, maybe dictated by Fsg not wanting to compete with City financially. Which somehow Klopp managed without similar funding. A bit frustrating to see them repeatedly sign the right player. The best player while Klopp tries to find another lower cost gem.
There depth of squad is what has cost us a number of further trophies during Klopp tenure. With similar backing he could've doubled his haul imo.

The club seems to have there ducks in a row behind the scenes which is very very encouraging, some very impressive appointments and structures now in place. Can the new manager refresh and allow us to go again without a huge rebuilding phase?

Let's hope so. Farewell Jürgen. Get the statue built please......
Report rothko May 15, 2024 10:43 AM BST
Good words Jedi

Jurgen inherited a very poor Liverpool squad and transformed it into one of the best squads in the world
Pep inherited Aquero , Silva , De Bruyne, Fernandinho and a PL winning squad
Klopp inherited Mignolet, Sakho, Skrtel, Moreno

It took him from October 2015 to the 2018/19 season to transform the squad and it was only the sale of Coutinho and being able to reinvest in Van **** and Allison that took the squad to the next level

At the same time Cheaty were investing heavily in their squad and competing with that was an incredible achievement based on the lower budget he had

For me the fact that Liverpool were able to compete from 2018/19 at the top level and back in the Champions league was all that you can wish for as a supporter, His style of football was so entertaining and energetic and I have some fantastic memories

He and his family understood so well the citizens of Liverpool that even bitter Everton supporters admired him 

He will be an extremely hard act to follow and we may need to be patient with the new manager and staff as i suspect there will be comings and goings but i remain optimistic that the younger players coming through are good enough

Agree about the statue
Report TameTheTiger May 15, 2024 11:15 AM BST
its going to be emotional
Report brentford May 15, 2024 4:14 PM BST
Pep Lijnders announced as RB Salzburg head coach..
Report vidou May 15, 2024 7:49 PM BST
Good posts jedi and rothco - totally agree with all you said
Report jedi sophie May 20, 2024 9:09 AM BST
Cheers Vidou.
Bit sad no posts on Klopp on here.
Back in the day there would be dozens just arguing over a team selection or loss.

Thought Klopp carried himself magnificently yesterday. A legend of a man.
Vvd Trent Salah needs addressed.
Report PorcupineorPineapple May 20, 2024 12:37 PM BST
I'm generally quite a positive person. I don't get too down-hearted by bad results. Just tend to brush them off. I view footy as entertainment and have taught myself not to get too embroiled where a defeat will leave me devastated.
And I'm genuinely looking forward to Slot coming. Change is exciting. It can be good. I'm a big fan of Edwards et al and I want to see it given full rein to have a go.

However, the last few days has just seen me wallowing in sadness.

I love that man.

He's just the utter personification of everything we could ever want a Liverpool manager to be. His passion, his ability, his whole worldview. We had great moments in the decades before he came. Sure we did. But I can't think of any period with as many great days and nights. And he built a team that can genuinely stand shoulder to shoulder with the best put together by Shankly, Paisley or King Kenny.

I'm too young to remember when Shankly left but it feels like that kind of moment. Hopefully the next guy is half as good as Sir Bob.
Report vidou May 20, 2024 1:46 PM BST
Farewell to JK it's been a brilliant rollercoaster with far more ups than downs. He's probably been one the greatest leaders and man-managers in the history of the game and I have to admit I'm devastated that he's going.
Hope I'm wrong but I fear Slot will have the same problem that MU have had since AF moved on with all their subsequent managers finding the job too much, remember Moyes after about 3 months had aged by about 10 years. One big difference is that JK has left us with decent squad and plenty of young talent.
Anyway welcome Arne and good luck
Report Wesdag May 20, 2024 2:01 PM BST
Could've easily have ended up with at least 3 EPLs if not for Cheaty.
Produced one of the best ever teams in the EPL era.
A hard act to follow.
Report EastLower Gooner May 20, 2024 6:22 PM BST
Arne will be fine and the Liverpool fans will forget about Klopp quickly imo.

How can you not love this…

https://youtu.be/pGNZ3GqYrVY?si=tSViUqxWLd9HLo9l
Report loui May 20, 2024 6:47 PM BST
All them videos last few weeks reminiscing klopps time here were good and entertaining, but was a bit like after you’ve split up with the mrs, and you keep watching the wedding video over and over. Agree with above concerns , and we’ll just have to stay focused and hope it’s a smooth transition, Edwards is a good timed return for us, squads good and full of potential. A couple of good signings and who knows. We’ll miss Jurgen big time, and good luck to him.
Report SlippyBlue May 20, 2024 7:04 PM BST
Klopp was an absolutely outstanding manager and an impressive man to boot.
Yes, I too also wish him the very best with whatever he decides to do next.
Report loui May 20, 2024 8:09 PM BST
And Palace looking a bit tidy  too slippy
Report vidou May 20, 2024 8:18 PM BST
Wouldn't mind Edwards going in for 2-3 of those Palace players.
Report loui May 20, 2024 9:17 PM BST
New manager has done great in a short time there, 3 forwards causing chaos for teams
Report PorcupineorPineapple May 21, 2024 12:42 PM BST
Toni Kross retiring this summer.


Think that adds some meat to the MacAllister rumours.
Report rothko May 23, 2024 11:12 AM BST
bayern leverkusen terrible last night

missed opportunity Cry
Report loui June 12, 2024 10:23 AM BST
No more news on Big Al, hope that’s a good thing and they have got him stabilised. What a player
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 7, 2024 9:14 PM BST
Think it's worth recording the fact that Thiago has now retired from footy. Probably one of the most gifted players to wear the red shirt but clearly ruined by injuries. So sad really even if he has won so much and earned millions no doubt. Can only imagine he'd be in Slot's team with its emphasis on short passing and defence splitting balls.
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 7, 2024 9:14 PM BST
Think it's worth recording the fact that Thiago has now retired from footy. Probably one of the most gifted players to wear the red shirt but clearly ruined by injuries. So sad really even if he has won so much and earned millions no doubt. Can only imagine he'd be in Slot's team with its emphasis on short passing and defence splitting balls.
Report The Dragon July 17, 2024 3:13 PM BST
ex everton player Heitinger has been added to slots coaching staff. underwhemed hereShocked
Report The Dragon July 17, 2024 3:23 PM BST
worked with moyes at west ham until he left with him this year, hardly inspires tbh, we shall see
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