The Sunderland thread

Apr 19, 2026 -- 7:21PM, grayhawk wrote:

Forest best price 13-8 with books for Friday night....19-10 for the home side.The markets hate us

obviuosly factored in the need to win but dear me, thats a large price.

We need to win anall...for Europe innit

Apr 20, 2026 -- 2:41PM, grayhawk wrote:

We need to win anall...for Europe innit

aye, might have to delay booking a long hasul in the autumn

....we laughing about it ....but it is doable

What is it ...down to eighth place likely to get a European place?

As it stands, the top five will be in the Champions League, sixth plus the FA Cup winners in the Europa League and seventh in the Conference League.

If cup winners are in champs league then it moves down
to 6/7 in europa league and conference place goes
to 8th place.

That can still change depending on euro results too...




More complicated, but followable, explanation

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ckg0pjl4vq5o

..

Ta.

6th could get in cl but dependent on Villa winning europa league. Conference league would do, beggars cant be choosers.

Been saying for (unfortunately) decades, that I want to actually go and see Sunderland officialy play away in Europe.

Came close at the turn of the millenium, but the last time was 7th Nov 1973

Please give us a chance this time.

If it means far flung trips to Kazakhstan or Azerbaijan, then so be it.

Villa would need to finish outside top 4
to get a 6th spot, if they win Europa.

But if that happened then we give up a Europa spot
with only the cup winners guaranteed a spot, or
7th place if cup won by champs league qualifier, and
8th place still in conference

If say Leeds won cup, then 8th place misses out.

The problem  is if we do happen to get into Europe anytime soon there'll be about 20,000 wanting to go to the first away game ....nee chance of getting tickets

Think it will be a jaunt without tickets for thousands just to say they've experienced it

Then there's the flights... And easyjet time tables

Apr 20, 2026 -- 5:46PM, grayhawk wrote:

The problem

im not bothered about going to the match

Early start on Friday...through for about 2:30pm  ...a few pints then off for a bit of nosebag afore KO

Beats working i suppose

Apr 20, 2026 -- 9:14PM, grayhawk wrote:

Early start on Friday...through for about 2:30pm

4pm for me, probably Chaplins

Did anyone take a price for Sunderland to finish higher than Newcastle?

Apr 20, 2026 -- 10:46PM, Opal wrote:

Did anyone take a price for Sunderland to finish higher than Newcastle?

not me, backed them for  a top 10 finish though

Will start in Chaplins but probably only for one...

The only bet i thought of backing regarding Sunderland was 9-2 for top promoted club just as we started  to buy players but it sharp went and i was in the huff with 10-3 so didn't take  that before it sharp disappeared so ended up with not a dime on it

Apr 21, 2026 -- 7:37PM, grayhawk wrote:

The only bet i thought of backing regarding Sunderland was 9-2 for top promoted club just as we started

Hopefully that was just one of those nights.

Many teams have had more than 6 shots on target at the SOL and, nevertheless, we have come away with 3pts.

didnt see that coming- out fought, out thought  and out-muscled. Conceded 9 goals in 2 games, very disconerting.

Usually watch most of the game again when i get in....haven't even reviewed the HIGHLIGHTS yet

flicked through the goals, dear me.

Think i'll save mesell the pain

In other news..saw one of them Just eat delivery robots waiting to cross the road on the way to game last night...couldn't believe me eyes at first ...didn't realise they'd come to Sunderland

I didn't know they watched football.

Apr 25, 2026 -- 4:58PM, grayhawk wrote:

In other news..saw one of them Just eat delivery robots waiting to cross the road on the way to game last night...couldn't believe me eyes at first ...didn't realise they'd come to Sunderland

saw one between chaplins and cooper rose on the corner. prbably more intelligent than the customers in the cooper rose.

....We had one on the way past ....cheap innit and the retired boys like to keep a vice like grip on the finances now and then

had a pint in chaplins was only 3.70

Just had look at Apple pay....paid £12.70 for three in there ......£17.45 in Ship Isis

I know one of the lads paid £6 odd for three in Fitzies

Apr 27, 2026 -- 8:08AM, grayhawk wrote:

Just had look at Apple pay....paid £12.70 for three in there ......£17.45 in Ship IsisI know one of the lads paid £6 odd for three in Fitzies

stopped going in Fitzies, went in fust day of season  looked full of reform voters.

When we went in we thought it wasn't busy until we saw all the usual clientele out the back in the beer garden

Sunderland need a billy Bingham to cross the ball for Vic halom to nod it in,,,,,

Apr 27, 2026 -- 11:35AM, grayhawk wrote:

When we went in we thought it wasn't busy until we saw all the usual clientele out the back in the beer garden

getting their vitamin d with their dark fruits cider

a

lest we forget

class

A rare cup success

Black and white photo is a nice touch.

May 5, 2026 -- 2:05PM, Trackman wrote:

A rare cup success

and you would know...

M2...thread on the message board on Sunday about the Cardiff game....not many punters on there neeone mentioned it was the same day Nureyev won the 2,000 guineas and got thrown out for Known Fact ( should never have been when you look at it now )

I was there and was the same age as you. ( thought you were a coupla year older ) ..as a lad who'd only been to my first ever away game a coupla month previous i was taken aback by how many were there absolutely scadding day it was...not that i saw much of the game cos i was being ill out the back

May 5, 2026 -- 7:48PM, grayhawk wrote:

M2...thread on the message board on Sunday about the Cardiff game....not many punters on there  neeone mentioned it was the same day Nureyev won the 2,000 guineas and got thrown out for Known Fact ( should never have been when you look at it now )I was there and was the same age as you. ( thought you were a coupla year older  ) ..as a lad who'd only been to my first ever away game a coupla month previous i was taken aback by how many were there  absolutely scadding day it was...not that i saw much of the game cos i was being ill out the back

same here re away match was only me second , thought they were all like that
certainly a character building day out  .

Aye ...Preston away in the February was my first

May 5, 2026 -- 8:18PM, grayhawk wrote:

Aye ...Preston away in the February was my first

that was game where Joe Bolton was at fault for both goals I think and Knighton went out and bought Joe Hinningan. i

Better memory than me...just remember fans going mental on the metal fencing in front of the away end when we pulled it back to 2-1...never got the equaliser

think we went unbeaten to end of season after that

Sunderland:- Team with most Premier League points from losing positions this season

Real battlers.

tremendous

Canny day to look forward too next weekend ..forecast sun to be out with a bank holiday the day after ....be a few sorry states on the Monday ( Nap )

M2...with you being a local will all them closed roads next week for the RADIO 1 weekend  have any affect on the main Durham to Sunderland road?

May 17, 2026 -- 10:04PM, grayhawk wrote:

Canny day to look forward too next weekend ..forecast sun to be out with a bank holiday the day after ....be a few sorry states on the Monday ( Nap )M2...with you being a local will all them closed roads next week for the RADIO 1 weekend

Think be A183 be the problem as passes Herrington Country Park, A690 should be ok would have thought, as goes straight into city centre. Would leave early for match just to make sure though.
I'm not there as in Mallorca from Tuesday

Cheers...part timer

May 17, 2026 -- 11:52PM, grayhawk wrote:

Cheers...part timer

scouting Real Mallorca just in case ( actually just checked, they are on verge of relegation )

Surprised we're as big as 13-5 for Sunday...thought we'd be around the 2-1 mark

May 18, 2026 -- 11:28AM, grayhawk wrote:

Surprised we're as big as 13-5 for Sunday...thought we'd be around the 2-1 mark

just back us after we go 1 nil down

...season finishing just after we've found a way to score in away games....

A paltry 6 goals in the first 13 away games ( failed to score in eight of them ) and 11 goals in the last 6 games on the road ( scored in all six )

May 18, 2026 -- 4:45PM, grayhawk wrote:

...season finishing just after we've found a way to score in away games....A paltry 6 goals in the first 13 away games ( failed to score in eight of them ) and 11 goals in the last 6 games on the road ( scored in all six )

think handbrakes come off a little too since we were safe.

Aye mebbes...

Better get saving.

Well done,... Cracking season.

gobsmacked

Poppydog. - Date Joined: 07 Sep 01

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Been saying for (unfortunately) decades, that I want to actually go and see Sunderland officialy play away in Europe.

Came close at the turn of the millenium, but the last time was 7th Nov 1973

Please give us a chance this time. 


20 Apr 26 17:37   Joined: 07 Sep 01 | Topic/replies: 22,243 | Blogger: Poppydog.'s blog
If it means far flung trips to Kazakhstan or Azerbaijan, then so be it.

probably not get a ticket but wtf, mught be only chance we get.

Some big teams in it

AC Milan
Juventus
Benfica
Marseille

Though Sunderland & Bournemouth must have a decent shot at winning the thing If Tottenham could and Forest made semis

best story of the PL season - Sunderland..

61 year old.....look about 45  .....over 50 years service and didn't think i'd ever see my team in europe....what's happened to our club this past 4 years has been tremendous and hats off to a young lad from Switzerland who has never courted the limelight but been brilliant for us.

Any supporter of an unfashionable club knows what it means to us ....all them years watching tosh to have a TEAM full of lads not from the area give everything for the badge is brilliant....we know it won't last long but by god we'll enjoy it as long as it lasts 

Wish i had tenner for every time i bumped into a lad tonight who had just as many years supporting the lads as i had....all with a smile on their face..all of them knowing we're going through the good ole days

Haway the lads....

May 25, 2026 -- 1:05AM, grayhawk wrote:

61 year old.....look about 45

hear hear

congratulations on a wonderful season for you guys > i hope you have a wonderful journey in Europe. Very well done -delighted for you

Cheers Dragon....

Probably doing mesell a disservice there M2...should have said fotty

Next seasons relegation odds.

Hull 3-10

Coventry 8-13

Ipswich  4-6

Sunderland 2-1

C Palace   11-2

Leeds      11-2

Fulham     11-2

N Forest    6-1

Brentford  7-1

Bournemouth 9-1

Everton    9-1

Man City  14-1

Brighton  25-1

Newcastle 40-1

Tottenham 40-1


Where's the value there.

Sunderland not a typo ???

No ...underlying data rules innit...that and second season syndrome and playing a competition in EUROPE

its as though we never played in the prem in last 9 months or so .

Yep...obviously injuries could also have a massive effect ( crosses fingers tightly ) but thought we'd deffo be bigger

to answer original question re value, got to be Palace, Leeds and Mags- 40-1 is massive given an implosion is never faraway.

got to be a lay at that price. hull and cov more than likely to go straight back so that leaves just 1 place. im defo laying your guys to go down  at that price

no relegation prices up on here yet

Possible reasons why we are so low-priced to get relegated next season:-  


a) Europe and Thursdays exhausting a smallish squad   
b) Agents urging our better players, to possibly leave to 'bigger' clubs (Le Fee, Roefs, Brobbey, Mukiele)   
c) God forbid, RLB is poached by a 'bigger' club here, or in Europe    
d) 2nd season syndrome - teams have now worked out our formation and style  
e) Despite the brilliant last games 6 points, there are only 15 points to West Ham  
f) Board and Executive shoot themselves in the foot, with decisions or appointments   
g) Minus 6 Goal difference this season
h) Although it doesn't mean much to most people, our Season XG would have seen us relegated with Wolves and Burnley
i) Sheer bad luck  

Any others???

I know this may seem like a doom-laden post, during such a joyous time,
but just trying to understand why we are lumped in, odds-wise, with Hull, Ipswich and Coventry to get relegated

Because spurs nearly went down.

It's a tough league, there will be near misses next
season too, bookies won't offer inverse of those prices
so they are inaccurate, and geared to volumes they did
this time last season.

May 26, 2026 -- 1:22PM, Poppydog. wrote:

Possible reasons why we are so low-priced to get relegated next season:-

some of the points ( obviously not all ) could apply to other clubs that finished close by
Also injures not included or is that encapsulated in point  i ) ?

Don't get to witness many days like that..the perfect storm really

Last game of the season with something on the line....played on a glorious sunny Sunday with a bank holiday following

Sure beats sitting there nithered on a bleak January afternoon ....as me mate always says we should be playing football in the summer.

Plenty of Sundays to come next season

May 29, 2026 -- 5:47PM, grayhawk wrote:

Plenty of Sundays to come next season

means be less Mondays and Fridays, tbf think only had one of each

And Saturday early Ko's ...did we have many of them last year

May 30, 2026 -- 2:10PM, grayhawk wrote:

And Saturday early Ko's ...did we have many of them last year

wham and Bmouth away only ones can think of.