Thread for deluded Newcastle fans part three ( trackers new)

TNT 1 for the big match today.

Good game, 5 tries in the first 20 minutes, shame Exeter have 3 of them

19-21 HT, young 18 yr old looks a bit of a find.

Just the 8 goals in the first two games

#judge

Sods Law. Forum Curse

Take yer pick.

Thats why the boookies drive big cars

Got a few players back.

Still a few out though.

Centre mid should bring a few interesting selections.

I assume Nico comes back in.

Does he stick with attacking 10,or maybe
play Joelinton and steur in there?

decisions decisions.

Dedic, Miley aare they fit ?

Both spotted in training last week

So may have some part to play

As was osula!

Might be one or two back but Steur would be unlucky if he didnt start imo.

Not sure about right back could be either Miley I suppose but I will go with Murphy perhaps

Hornicek
Murphy Thiaw Botman Hall
Steur Nico
Barnes Willock Pardo
Wissa

Nico in then rest who coming back from ian jurys ont bench.Simples

Its not like the Howe days when the local jouno's had a fair handle on who was fit and who wasn't.

Osula on the right might be interesting

Hornicek

Dedic Thiaw Botman Hall

Nico Steur

Willock

Osula Wissa Barnes



Probably won't play osula in front of Dedic, so probably Jacob on right

Pardo missed some game time with Belgium so
ease him back, half an hour,.. Same for big Joe, and also Baz, and Miley senior.

Newcastle United: Lukáš Horníček, Lewis Hall, Sven Botman, Nico González, Yoane Wissa, Harvey Barnes, Malick Thiaw (c), Matias Fernandez-Pardo, Jacob Murphy, Joe Willock, Lewis Miley.

Substitutes: Nick Pope, Fabian Schär, Joelinton, Aladji Bamba, Will Osula, Sean Steur, Bazoumana Touré, Dan Burn, Amar Dedić.

finished work at 7 HWTL

Poor start.

Xmas came early for their goal anyone any idea why Pardo dummied the ball instead of tapping it in masters of their own downfall against a poor Coventry team

Getting beat 2-0 by one of the worst teams
I've seen in a while.

Bring back the International break.

What an absolute mess.

What ever this formation is we don't have the players to play it.

Absolute garbage.

Monday night blues

Is that zoo open yet?

Coach / Manager needs to look at the squad he has and understand the formation he wants to play will not work with the players he has at his disposal.
I'm no manager but if I can see it ????

Man u had a coach that insisted on a certain formation and didnt have the players to play it last season and he paid the price.
I hope this fella wakes up and smells the coffee very soon.

Totally embarrassing no excuses we deserved what we got

Not 4-1 bad, but disjointed,and playing a 10
with 3 in front was always a big ask, given
what we've got.

If we don't make chances/ score goals it can
be spectacularly bad.

So many folk on twitter blaming so many different players seems a fair summation that we've had a poor evening.

Think maybe the underlying problem with the system is we don't have a 6.

It's a while since we won on a Monday night.

Goalie couldnt gather a simple ball and gives pelanty away.Set the tone for comedy defending all night.Midfieldnon exsistant again.Wissa totally anonimous apart from giving stupid free kicks away.Front 3 never in game apart from young lad who needs a bit luck and confidence.I could go on and on but just getting angry again thinking about it.

Nor do we have a 10 donny

Morning gents, got my Villa ticket via resale this morning.

Level 4 Leazes West Corner

HWTL

Cruel game when you're a bit off.

We need an extra player, or just stop
making mistakes.

We were more than a bit off tbh.

Individual mistakes costing us all over the park. Not sure any of the starting 11 would have scored above 5 out of 10 in Tigers Tales.

Need to find solutions quickly.

Need to take chances when they arise.

Need a cup of coffee.

scott wilson in the echo not leaving much off the table in his takedown

Trackman12 Oct 26 22:22Joined: 10 Jan 02
Coach / Manager needs to look at the squad he has and understand the formation he wants to play will not work with the players he has at his disposal.
I'm no manager but if I can see it ????

Man u had a coach that insisted on a certain formation and didnt have the players to play it last season and he paid the price.
I hope this fella wakes up and smells the coffee very soon.


My thoughts also 100%.

Depends where you think our starting position is!

I think we are inexperienced kids and players that struggled to get on the bench
and manager trying to juggle injuries.

So being a bit off, from a lower start point
than last season.

Yeah it looked awful, and it's mostly self
inflicted, as Coventry were not very good, apart from picking up the gifts we generously scattered all around.

Hull and Coventry look like they will struggle, and we ain't much better, so work
to do not to join them.

Disorganised, Disjointed, muddled, flustered, higgledy piggledy.

Not a single player emerged with any credit last night. System isn't working so.............change the damn system. Teams are walking through our midfield because we dont seem to have anyone in midfield, at least not where they should be, shows up our central defenders for what they are, which is not very good. Powder puff in attack, who told this Pardo bloke that he was a striker? Answer - he did! Everyone else thinks he's a wide man.

There is a lot of sorting out to be done.

Firstly,goalie is hesitant and that kills your defenders.Defenders arent playing as a unit,our clearing of the ball is a joke,10 year olds can clear the box farther.The midfield dont play together,the one man who can pass forward was dropped and our other good midfielder was right full back who never got involved.Hall is great but i wish he would look for the ball 5 yards further up than he does.Wissa a total waste in whatever that position he is in.the best bit though is the total lack of a centre forward.i felt sorry for the young lad pushed up front.Lots of decisions to be made and some arzes to be kicked.

NUFC on Monday Night Football in the PL since 2010:

Played 35 (6 home, 29 away)

7 wins
6 draws
22 defeats
Goals for 32
Goals against 60

0.77 points per game
20% win ratio

......




29 away out of 35

Lol

Woltemade scored for juve

Why shouldnt he? He is an international footballer.He had a bad run here when played in all sorts of positions which didnt help him.Added to the fact the usual social media boo boys got on his back fuelled by the idiot media made for his confidence dropping.The same idiot media and boo boys who are getting on the new managers back.FFS he has only been in the job about 8 weeks!I have been on longer picnics!

TBF he is s hite though

Poachers goal last night, pounced on defensive error.

What do we think for tomorrow ?

Watched a couple of reports from yesterday's presser and there doesnt seem like theres going to be much change in personnel.

Hornicek

Dedic
Thiaw
Botman
Hall

Gonzalez
Willock
JLinton

Barnes
Pardo
Murphy

Both wingers need to improve although that could be said for most i suppose.

Botman seems more than a bit off but Thiaw isn't pulling up any trees either.

H 2.38
A 3.1
D 3.8

Getting osula in up front seems like a good idea, right or centre, then the energy improves and aerial ability improves, even before his goal threat.

Joelinton again increases energy and workrate, when fit, so get him in too.

Once the front and midfield works better then the defence should improve for pressure applied before ball gets there.


Manzambi looks a very tasty player, we missed out there.

Willock cant play shirley,put Wissa up front and get a solid fluid midfield.A clean sheet would be more than weclome but cant see it sadly.

What is your solid midfield then ?

FWIW I'm not a Willock fan but Miley has looked rather jaded in midfield when he's played there and I'm not sure why Steur was overlooked on Monday night.

Wissa has suffered in the "No10" he clearly is not a 10.

Miley does 60 as fullback, worn out.. shunted into midfield v fresh legs.

So unfair.

Joelinton, Nico and Miley, or Steur if Miley is right back.


Oddly I thought wissa has had some decent moments as a 10,but possibly would be better
as a false 9, so no one person in front of him through middle, but others making runs in front of him

Comp on the Horse Racing Forum for tomorrows Ascot meeting.

Going back to yesterdays press conference; something that Jaissle said was; you can have the best tactics in the world but if players make individual errors the tactics will be irrelevant. No excuse for Hornicek error for their penalty; Joelinton made an error late on in the game which lead to the goal; Pardo's dummy instead of smashing the ball into the net and Willocks miss rings true to what he said. As NP said this morning the bloke has only been in the job for 2 months. FWIW Jaissle has to be judged on results and apart from 2 monday night horror shows it hasn't been a bad start to the season. A clean sheet would be fantastic tomorrow for confidence and as for the starting line up he plays his cards that close to his chest I wouldn't have a clue

https://x.com/opcompss/status/2111130561557250444

wunderbar

I have entered said competition Tiger and fully expect to win it.As for a solid midfield,i would say,Nico,Miley Stuer and Big Joe might be a starter.If we had a centre forward i would say play 3.Oscula and Wissa would be my top 2.Its all about opinions as we say.

GL with your comp entry.

Thank you,its the only thing i will get to enter this weekend likely

Well once you said you would win I decided it was a waste of my valuable time in entering.

Going up to see Matty's boys later today in hope rather than expectation.

If i'm being honest i don't fancy us at all.

Here's hoping i'm completley wrong.

*completely

Not much optimism hear either.

But we played well v liverpool, so its
in there somewhere.

Good luck in the comp, its a bit of frun for the day.

Sadly I can see the team tonight to not be the team or tactics that most of us would use, I can see something like:

Hornicek
Dedic
Thiaw
Botman
Hall

Gonzalez
Joelinton

Wissa

Barnes
Pardon
Toure/Murphy

Pardon

Joelinton makes his first start of the season as Newcastle United take on Aston Villa at St. James' Park in the Premier League (kick-off 5.30pm BST).

Newcastle United: Lukáš Horníček, Lewis Hall, Sven Botman, Nico González, Joelinton (c), Yoane Wissa, Harvey Barnes 12 Malick Thiaw 20 Matias Fernandez-Pardo 28 Joe Willock 67 Lewis Miley

Substitutes: 1 Nick Pope 5 Fabian Schär 8 Aladji Bamba 10 Will Osula 14 Sean Steur 17 Bazoumana Touré 23 Jacob Murphy 33 Dan Burn 37 Amar Dedić

Villa cutting through us in the midfield like a knife through butter as for their goal; how much time did he have without a challenge; no tracking by Miley. No shot on target as yet. Botman is a lucky lad to be still on the pitch. Can't see 11 players on the pitch by the end of the game

Lewis Hall playing three positions at once in that first half, centre back, centre back and left half.

Bish, Botman got the ball first, then the man as did Joelinton, isnt that how the game should be played? Hard?
If you get the man first then fair enough its a bad tackle.

Massive turnaround needed in the second half.

Can see Dedic coming on early.

4-2-1-3, your having a laugh!

Botman got the ball first correct then decided to wipe him out; if it was a villa player that done that I would be screaming for a red card; Joelinton was unlucky with his yellow; the ref game him a yellow on his reputation; anyway. 1 chuffing shot on target; you can't expect to get anything from the game with just 1 shot on target; sad thing is; they wouldn't have scored if they played till midnight

Did he play Burn up front at the end?! He needs sacking tonight. 70m striker played well for Juve and this clown plays a 7 foot defender up front.

I thought Joelinton tackle was worse than Botmans.

Not seen replays, but was amazed when found out it was Botmans they checked.

Ref was much better than recent stuff, but the goals have dried up.

Hey ho, always another chance next week.

Palace away,... No easy games.

It's not good is it ?

I've seen a replay and i'm surprised he didn't see red ( ref wasn't even sent to the screen).

At the risk of repeating myself, this system doesn't work and this fella doesn't seem to see it.

Apart from the first 20 minutes or so I found it difficult to watch.

I don't think we had a shot on target other than Botman in the 2nd half.

Wissa was wasteful late on when he should have passed to Barnes or crossed to I think it was Toure.

6 pointa next week.... can't wait.

Horrible football is me being  polite.

JoeLinton in a two in midfield It's like nothing was learnt from Monday night.

Pardo's confidence must be on the floor. Left Middle now right.

I was of the understanding that he was wanted as AG's replacement but it was thought we couldn't get him so Toure was brought in. (maybe i'm wrong)

We now seem to have three players who appear to be left sided forwards.

Surely you play players in their position if you want to get the best out of them.

It's just a mess. Soft centre powderpuff up front and sloppy at the back.

We were OK at getting stuck in and working hard

The double booking knocked our ability to tackle, and I don't know how Miley ended up inside Thiaw for the goal. Poor decision not to challenge manzambi for ball, and that's it.

I quite enjoyed the game, despite us making so many bad decisions.

Worryingly Pardo looked dejected 2nd half.

There was lots of signals between him and Nico, first half,... Dunno why.. Summit not right.

Wan bisaka had a good game unti going off injured,.. Our left back was good too!

Quite enjoyed the game ? Were we at the same match

Dunno if you could see it but Murphy appeared to be coaching the back four from the touchline late on.

Frustrating the errors, but I've kind of accepted where we are, so today was a step forward.

We need much improvement, but surely getting
Steur in there will improve creativity, and Nico and Hall are good players.

When Pardo went off, Miley got forward more
and produced some good stuff, of course that
leaves us more open, but that's part of the game.

Nearly time for motd

Could be a late one, and check how bad we were.

Not had a home clean sheet since January which is a record 16 games; does that not tell you that something needs changing at the back

Im sick of modern football. You see these managers coming in having achieved nothing and dumping players without giving them even a basic chance or run of games. Its usually not playing them (Toure) or if they really want rid, playing them out of position (Woltemade).

Copy & paste this 4-2-3-1 tripe like lemmings.

the Owners btw are clueless. They are one dumpster fire after another. Incredible there is not some sort of uprising over there if the natives saw how much money they are wasting on these "investments"

Bring back Mike Ashley can't agree with that one

Clueless

Newcastle   0   Aston Villa  1

NUFC.COM

Newcastle may have unveiled a new version of The Blaydon Races before kick-off on Saturday, but there weren't many smiling faces at St.James' Park by the full time whistle.

Matthias Jaissle lost on home soil for the first time thanks to a display from his side that bordered on the inept and was greeted by a chorus of boos at half and full time.

The only goal of the game came from Johan Manzambi, who rejected a move to Tyneside in the summer in favour of Villa and was left unattended in the United box to nod home a Joao Gomes cross on 36 minutes.

United's most dangerous moment came early in the second half from the boot of Sven Botman, but unlike Monday's effort, he failed to find a way past 'keeper Zion Suzuki.

Making one change to the side that started at Coventry, Joelinton returned to captain the side from central midfield, Jacob Murphy making way for Matias Fernandez-Pardo on the right and Yoane Wissa fielded at centre forward.

The ineffectiveness of that formation saw replacements warming up after half time; Bazoumana Toure and Will Osula both introduced barely ten minutes after the restart.

The tempo and frequency of United's attacks increased, but the quality of crossing remained uniformly poor with nothing remotely troubling Suzuki as the minutes ticked away and our efforts became desperate.

A team lacking any poise or coherence ended up with Dan Burn leading the attack once again, trying in vain to trouble a Villa side who needed to be no more than workmanlike to take all three points and could have added to their tally.

Jaissle may have spoken about his players needing to show a reaction in this game, but like his selections and tactics, the gap between aspiration and reality at present is visible. The reaction was insipid, the effort misplaced, the spark missing.

To our eyes there is a credibility issue with this coach and his players; a paying audience largely unconvinced by what they've seen and heard thus far this season.

The thoughts of Mr Hope who I think is near enough correct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2A9FW19Wdk

Joelinton lucky Botman confused var, lol.


I'm still not convinced we are that bad.

Deffo poor, but danger is talking us into worse than we are.

Saw the wissa miss again, and osula running offside was a bugga, barnes is too close for a pass, and Toure was probably the ball, but
a lot going on, and plan c being best option for a pass, it's no wonder he shot and missed.

A lot depends on how good villa are... If villa are good then we have poor season

If villa are poor then we need to find somebody else with Coventry and hull or
we could well join them.

Having a look about the socials this morning and I think it's pretty clear the journo's have made  their minds up about Jaissle.
He's out of his depth.
Will those who brought him listen to the noise and act or will they back their man who they shelled out 9m to release from his previous employment.

As I've said since they have hired him he will and should be judged on results; as it stands at the moment including cup games; 4 wins out of 9; not spectacular but not the worst we have had by far; worrying all the same that they only had 1 shot on target yesterday and Villa carved through them especially in the 1st half with such ease. He needs to turn things round quickly or it could be a very long season

He needs to bin the bloody awful 4231 system bish that would be a start.

Certainly never worked yesterday or Monday or against Leeds

If I interviewed any manager I'd ask what his formation would be.....4-2-3-1 and he is shown the door.

Its a pure tell the manager has not put any effort in and is copying the latest fad.

Great managers initially flex the system to suit the players not the other way around.

Hes not a popular example but when Redknapp took over at Spurs, he worked with what he had, rubbed the players bellys, played to suit them. This bought him time which he then used over a number of transfer windows to move things forward.

A woeful performance at best.

Thiaw and Botman need replaced.

Gonzalez needs to offer more going forward, though perhaps its not his fault, we need three in midfield.

Its not the current players fault that, Trippier, Bruno, Tonali and Gordon were not replaced like for like, quality for quality.

Only two of yesterdays starters were brought in by this manager.

We need to accept that this squad is not as good as last seasons squad.

The manager needs to accept that the formations needs to change as most of us agree, certainly me and Trackman have been saying this for a while.

Or are we being too impatient? Amorim is doing quite well at Milan atm.

I don't think it is too impatient, no. It is rather frustrating that most if not all can see what the problems are but he seems reluctant to address this or refuses to do so.
Am I the only one that thinks he comes across quite arrogant when questioned on the team selection, formation, performance ?

Hope Brighton declare v palace or they might be looking for a reaction next week.

Agree with Trackers; he does come across as quite arrogant; possibly the accent of ze germans doesn't help; if he starts to get the results he can be as arrogant as he wants

Very interesting reading all you lads thoughts and insights into our current form.I agree with most points and cant argue even against the things i dont really agree with.My thoughts are we have to be patient,bite our tongue and let the lad find the right balance and players to get the wins we all want.A new spine down the middle with big strong players would be a start in the winter window.I do think we arent getting the bounce of the ball at the minute but thats not an excuse.As for the tackles,both good ones for me,both got the ball.The mid day game 2 players did the same if not worse and commentators saying how good it was to see proper tackles being allowed.Funny old game.

R u off the drink ?

Not getting out as often,had a few issues with health but fine now.Just booked a little Jaunt to Dons in a few weeks to cheer mesel up,nowt like sitting in the sun with a bucket and the racing on to chase the blues away.

very nice.

Vitamin D,good for the auld bones.

We really stuck to em in that Ascot comp didnt we

Me -7.05 points
pointa, the self proclaimed winner, at least before the event - 9.05 points
Trackers - -14 points

You have to have a bit confidence to succeed Tiger.I would of won but they changed the going.

You have to have a bit confidence to succeed Tiger.I would of won but they changed the going.

its the taking part not the winning.

Three of Newcastle United's Premier League fixtures in December have been rescheduled after being selected for live television coverage.

The Magpies' visit of Manchester United will remain on Wednesday, 2nd December but the game will now kick-off at 8:15pm (GMT) instead of 8pm and will be broadcast live on Sky Sports.

Newcastle were due to host Sunderland on Saturday, 5th December but the 160th Tyne-Wear derby will now take place on Sunday, 6th December, with kick-off at St. James' Park set for 2pm (GMT).

United's final away game of 2026, away at Brentford, will still take place on Saturday, 19th December but the clash at the Gtech Community Stadium will now kick-off at 12:30pm (GMT) instead of 3pm. The game will be broadcast live on TNT Sports.

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