Thread for deluded Newcastle fans part three ( trackers new)

FWIW I'm not a Willock fan but Miley has looked rather jaded in midfield when he's played there and I'm not sure why Steur was overlooked on Monday night.

Wissa has suffered in the "No10" he clearly is not a 10.

Miley does 60 as fullback, worn out.. shunted into midfield v fresh legs.

So unfair.

Joelinton, Nico and Miley, or Steur if Miley is right back.


Oddly I thought wissa has had some decent moments as a 10,but possibly would be better
as a false 9, so no one person in front of him through middle, but others making runs in front of him

Comp on the Horse Racing Forum for tomorrows Ascot meeting.

Going back to yesterdays press conference; something that Jaissle said was; you can have the best tactics in the world but if players make individual errors the tactics will be irrelevant. No excuse for Hornicek error for their penalty; Joelinton made an error late on in the game which lead to the goal; Pardo's dummy instead of smashing the ball into the net and Willocks miss rings true to what he said. As NP said this morning the bloke has only been in the job for 2 months. FWIW Jaissle has to be judged on results and apart from 2 monday night horror shows it hasn't been a bad start to the season. A clean sheet would be fantastic tomorrow for confidence and as for the starting line up he plays his cards that close to his chest I wouldn't have a clue

https://x.com/opcompss/status/2111130561557250444

wunderbar

I have entered said competition Tiger and fully expect to win it.As for a solid midfield,i would say,Nico,Miley Stuer and Big Joe might be a starter.If we had a centre forward i would say play 3.Oscula and Wissa would be my top 2.Its all about opinions as we say.

GL with your comp entry.

Thank you,its the only thing i will get to enter this weekend likely

Well once you said you would win I decided it was a waste of my valuable time in entering.

Going up to see Matty's boys later today in hope rather than expectation.

If i'm being honest i don't fancy us at all.

Here's hoping i'm completley wrong.

*completely

Not much optimism hear either.

But we played well v liverpool, so its
in there somewhere.

Good luck in the comp, its a bit of frun for the day.

Sadly I can see the team tonight to not be the team or tactics that most of us would use, I can see something like:

Hornicek
Dedic
Thiaw
Botman
Hall

Gonzalez
Joelinton

Wissa

Barnes
Pardon
Toure/Murphy

Pardon

Joelinton makes his first start of the season as Newcastle United take on Aston Villa at St. James' Park in the Premier League (kick-off 5.30pm BST).

Newcastle United: Lukáš Horníček, Lewis Hall, Sven Botman, Nico González, Joelinton (c), Yoane Wissa, Harvey Barnes 12 Malick Thiaw 20 Matias Fernandez-Pardo 28 Joe Willock 67 Lewis Miley

Substitutes: 1 Nick Pope 5 Fabian Schär 8 Aladji Bamba 10 Will Osula 14 Sean Steur 17 Bazoumana Touré 23 Jacob Murphy 33 Dan Burn 37 Amar Dedić

Villa cutting through us in the midfield like a knife through butter as for their goal; how much time did he have without a challenge; no tracking by Miley. No shot on target as yet. Botman is a lucky lad to be still on the pitch. Can't see 11 players on the pitch by the end of the game

Lewis Hall playing three positions at once in that first half, centre back, centre back and left half.

Bish, Botman got the ball first, then the man as did Joelinton, isnt that how the game should be played? Hard?
If you get the man first then fair enough its a bad tackle.

Massive turnaround needed in the second half.

Can see Dedic coming on early.

4-2-1-3, your having a laugh!

Botman got the ball first correct then decided to wipe him out; if it was a villa player that done that I would be screaming for a red card; Joelinton was unlucky with his yellow; the ref game him a yellow on his reputation; anyway. 1 chuffing shot on target; you can't expect to get anything from the game with just 1 shot on target; sad thing is; they wouldn't have scored if they played till midnight

Did he play Burn up front at the end?! He needs sacking tonight. 70m striker played well for Juve and this clown plays a 7 foot defender up front.

I thought Joelinton tackle was worse than Botmans.

Not seen replays, but was amazed when found out it was Botmans they checked.

Ref was much better than recent stuff, but the goals have dried up.

Hey ho, always another chance next week.

Palace away,... No easy games.

It's not good is it ?

I've seen a replay and i'm surprised he didn't see red ( ref wasn't even sent to the screen).

At the risk of repeating myself, this system doesn't work and this fella doesn't seem to see it.

Apart from the first 20 minutes or so I found it difficult to watch.

I don't think we had a shot on target other than Botman in the 2nd half.

Wissa was wasteful late on when he should have passed to Barnes or crossed to I think it was Toure.

6 pointa next week.... can't wait.

Horrible football is me being  polite.

JoeLinton in a two in midfield It's like nothing was learnt from Monday night.

Pardo's confidence must be on the floor. Left Middle now right.

I was of the understanding that he was wanted as AG's replacement but it was thought we couldn't get him so Toure was brought in. (maybe i'm wrong)

We now seem to have three players who appear to be left sided forwards.

Surely you play players in their position if you want to get the best out of them.

It's just a mess. Soft centre powderpuff up front and sloppy at the back.

We were OK at getting stuck in and working hard

The double booking knocked our ability to tackle, and I don't know how Miley ended up inside Thiaw for the goal. Poor decision not to challenge manzambi for ball, and that's it.

I quite enjoyed the game, despite us making so many bad decisions.

Worryingly Pardo looked dejected 2nd half.

There was lots of signals between him and Nico, first half,... Dunno why.. Summit not right.

Wan bisaka had a good game unti going off injured,.. Our left back was good too!

Quite enjoyed the game ? Were we at the same match

Dunno if you could see it but Murphy appeared to be coaching the back four from the touchline late on.

Frustrating the errors, but I've kind of accepted where we are, so today was a step forward.

We need much improvement, but surely getting
Steur in there will improve creativity, and Nico and Hall are good players.

When Pardo went off, Miley got forward more
and produced some good stuff, of course that
leaves us more open, but that's part of the game.

Nearly time for motd

Could be a late one, and check how bad we were.

Not had a home clean sheet since January which is a record 16 games; does that not tell you that something needs changing at the back

Im sick of modern football. You see these managers coming in having achieved nothing and dumping players without giving them even a basic chance or run of games. Its usually not playing them (Toure) or if they really want rid, playing them out of position (Woltemade).

Copy & paste this 4-2-3-1 tripe like lemmings.

the Owners btw are clueless. They are one dumpster fire after another. Incredible there is not some sort of uprising over there if the natives saw how much money they are wasting on these "investments"

Bring back Mike Ashley can't agree with that one

Clueless

Newcastle   0   Aston Villa  1

NUFC.COM

Newcastle may have unveiled a new version of The Blaydon Races before kick-off on Saturday, but there weren't many smiling faces at St.James' Park by the full time whistle.

Matthias Jaissle lost on home soil for the first time thanks to a display from his side that bordered on the inept and was greeted by a chorus of boos at half and full time.

The only goal of the game came from Johan Manzambi, who rejected a move to Tyneside in the summer in favour of Villa and was left unattended in the United box to nod home a Joao Gomes cross on 36 minutes.

United's most dangerous moment came early in the second half from the boot of Sven Botman, but unlike Monday's effort, he failed to find a way past 'keeper Zion Suzuki.

Making one change to the side that started at Coventry, Joelinton returned to captain the side from central midfield, Jacob Murphy making way for Matias Fernandez-Pardo on the right and Yoane Wissa fielded at centre forward.

The ineffectiveness of that formation saw replacements warming up after half time; Bazoumana Toure and Will Osula both introduced barely ten minutes after the restart.

The tempo and frequency of United's attacks increased, but the quality of crossing remained uniformly poor with nothing remotely troubling Suzuki as the minutes ticked away and our efforts became desperate.

A team lacking any poise or coherence ended up with Dan Burn leading the attack once again, trying in vain to trouble a Villa side who needed to be no more than workmanlike to take all three points and could have added to their tally.

Jaissle may have spoken about his players needing to show a reaction in this game, but like his selections and tactics, the gap between aspiration and reality at present is visible. The reaction was insipid, the effort misplaced, the spark missing.

To our eyes there is a credibility issue with this coach and his players; a paying audience largely unconvinced by what they've seen and heard thus far this season.

The thoughts of Mr Hope who I think is near enough correct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2A9FW19Wdk

Joelinton lucky Botman confused var, lol.


I'm still not convinced we are that bad.

Deffo poor, but danger is talking us into worse than we are.

Saw the wissa miss again, and osula running offside was a bugga, barnes is too close for a pass, and Toure was probably the ball, but
a lot going on, and plan c being best option for a pass, it's no wonder he shot and missed.

A lot depends on how good villa are... If villa are good then we have poor season

If villa are poor then we need to find somebody else with Coventry and hull or
we could well join them.

Having a look about the socials this morning and I think it's pretty clear the journo's have made  their minds up about Jaissle.
He's out of his depth.
Will those who brought him listen to the noise and act or will they back their man who they shelled out 9m to release from his previous employment.

As I've said since they have hired him he will and should be judged on results; as it stands at the moment including cup games; 4 wins out of 9; not spectacular but not the worst we have had by far; worrying all the same that they only had 1 shot on target yesterday and Villa carved through them especially in the 1st half with such ease. He needs to turn things round quickly or it could be a very long season

He needs to bin the bloody awful 4231 system bish that would be a start.

Certainly never worked yesterday or Monday or against Leeds

If I interviewed any manager I'd ask what his formation would be.....4-2-3-1 and he is shown the door.

Its a pure tell the manager has not put any effort in and is copying the latest fad.

Great managers initially flex the system to suit the players not the other way around.

Hes not a popular example but when Redknapp took over at Spurs, he worked with what he had, rubbed the players bellys, played to suit them. This bought him time which he then used over a number of transfer windows to move things forward.

A woeful performance at best.

Thiaw and Botman need replaced.

Gonzalez needs to offer more going forward, though perhaps its not his fault, we need three in midfield.

Its not the current players fault that, Trippier, Bruno, Tonali and Gordon were not replaced like for like, quality for quality.

Only two of yesterdays starters were brought in by this manager.

We need to accept that this squad is not as good as last seasons squad.

The manager needs to accept that the formations needs to change as most of us agree, certainly me and Trackman have been saying this for a while.

Or are we being too impatient? Amorim is doing quite well at Milan atm.

I don't think it is too impatient, no. It is rather frustrating that most if not all can see what the problems are but he seems reluctant to address this or refuses to do so.
Am I the only one that thinks he comes across quite arrogant when questioned on the team selection, formation, performance ?

Hope Brighton declare v palace or they might be looking for a reaction next week.

Agree with Trackers; he does come across as quite arrogant; possibly the accent of ze germans doesn't help; if he starts to get the results he can be as arrogant as he wants

Very interesting reading all you lads thoughts and insights into our current form.I agree with most points and cant argue even against the things i dont really agree with.My thoughts are we have to be patient,bite our tongue and let the lad find the right balance and players to get the wins we all want.A new spine down the middle with big strong players would be a start in the winter window.I do think we arent getting the bounce of the ball at the minute but thats not an excuse.As for the tackles,both good ones for me,both got the ball.The mid day game 2 players did the same if not worse and commentators saying how good it was to see proper tackles being allowed.Funny old game.

R u off the drink ?

Not getting out as often,had a few issues with health but fine now.Just booked a little Jaunt to Dons in a few weeks to cheer mesel up,nowt like sitting in the sun with a bucket and the racing on to chase the blues away.

very nice.

Vitamin D,good for the auld bones.

We really stuck to em in that Ascot comp didnt we

Me -7.05 points
pointa, the self proclaimed winner, at least before the event - 9.05 points
Trackers - -14 points

You have to have a bit confidence to succeed Tiger.I would of won but they changed the going.

You have to have a bit confidence to succeed Tiger.I would of won but they changed the going.

its the taking part not the winning.

Three of Newcastle United's Premier League fixtures in December have been rescheduled after being selected for live television coverage.

The Magpies' visit of Manchester United will remain on Wednesday, 2nd December but the game will now kick-off at 8:15pm (GMT) instead of 8pm and will be broadcast live on Sky Sports.

Newcastle were due to host Sunderland on Saturday, 5th December but the 160th Tyne-Wear derby will now take place on Sunday, 6th December, with kick-off at St. James' Park set for 2pm (GMT).

United's final away game of 2026, away at Brentford, will still take place on Saturday, 19th December but the clash at the Gtech Community Stadium will now kick-off at 12:30pm (GMT) instead of 3pm. The game will be broadcast live on TNT Sports.

Any further alterations to the Magpies' fixture schedule will be communicated on newcastleunited.com at the earliest opportunity.

Next Manure manager did anyone say?

was told the other day Eddie cant take a job until a certain date,not sure what it is but still a good few weeks the reckon which if true rules out the Bournemouth theory.Could only be one other fixture knowing us

Well at least Mr Carrick will be taking the heat away from SJP for the next few days.

Big Nick man of the match for the Old Lady last night, keep it up and we might get our money back!!

good luck with that.

I would have him in the team on Sunday,better than the 2 W`s.Went up to Edinburgh for the day yesterday,my,how the world is changing Only 13 to 14 notes for a couple of pints .

Having a little ew on champagne chic today.nowt really flurtin me burt today.Stoke at 6/4 a bit of value imvho

We find out how good villa are today

And hopefully we play well tomorrow.

Talk of afner ca on the bench, just a bairn...

Pointa I was at the arena three weeks ago to see Kevin Bridges 9 and a half for a  pint.Worlds gone mad.

Used to have a good nite oot at high pit clerb a gallon of beer and a bus yem and
still had more than 50p change from an Ayrton.

Villa not a bad team.

aye Donny this inflation lark is nee good for us swillers.What war they gonna blame it on next? canny days spurt on the morn,plenty gammlin to be done.

On a turtally different nurt anybody remember the bookies at brough and sunderland dergs? was there a foster or postelgate?

Hornichep dedic hall thaix botman nico big joe wissa barnes oscula murphy is my guess of todays team.Not the team i would pick mind.

A nice sunny day here in South East London and a good game ahead to look forward to.

My Geordie cousin has come down for the match, he's from Killingworth, and he knows not to start jumping around if ( or more a case of when !) Newcastle score as we're in the main stand with all Palace fans.

You'd think there will be goals and overs is priced accordingly @ 1.62.

I've done 1-1 & 2-2 for an interest.
Newcastle always have a good and noisy away support so a great atmosphere guaranteed.

defo be goals,not sure be evenly spread though,we have no forwards.

Matthias Jaissle has made five changes to his Newcastle United line-up for Sunday's Premier League game at Crystal Palace (kick-off 2pm GMT).

The Magpies head coach has shuffled his pack, bringing Dan Burn and Fabian Schär into the side for their first league starts of the season as part of a reorganised back four, with Amar Dedić also back in the side.

Jacob Murphy is also in the line-up at Selhurst Park, with Will Osula in from the outset for the first time since he hobbled off on the opening day of the campaign against Liverpool.

That means Sven Botman, Malick Thiaw and Yoane Wissa revert to the bench, with Matias Fernandez-Pardo and Lewis Miley not part of the squad for the clash with the Eagles.

Lukáš Horníček is in goal, with Lewis Hall retaining his place at left back, with skipper Burn, Schär and Dedić alongside him.

Nico González partners Joelinton in the middle of the park, with Joe Willock in an advanced role and Murphy and Harvey Barnes on the flanks while Osula leads the line.

Anthony Elanga will hope to make a first appearance since early September having been named on the bench after recovering from injury, with Jacob Ramsey also back in the squad.

Nick Pope, Aladji Bamba, Sean Steur and Bazoumana Touré are also among the substitutes.

Newcastle United: Lukáš Horníček, Lewis Hall, Fabian Schär, Nico González, Joelinton, Will Osula, Harvey Barnes, Jacob Murphy, Joe Willock, Dan Burn (c), Amar Dedić

Substitutes: Nick Pope, Sven Botman, Aladji Bamba, Yoane Wissa, Malick Thiaw, Sean Steur, Bazoumana Touré, Anthony Elanga, Jacob Ramsey

Newcastle United: Lukáš Horníček, Lewis Hall, Fabian Schär, Nico González, Joelinton, Will Osula, Harvey Barnes, Jacob Murphy, Joe Willock, Dan Burn (c), Amar Dedić

Substitutes: Nick Pope, Sven Botman, Aladji Bamba, Yoane Wissa, Malick Thiaw, Sean Steur, Bazoumana Touré, Anthony Elanga, Jacob Ramsey

Osula up front instead of Wissa?

Lets hope it works, we need the points.

Are the subs stronger than the first team?

Anyone picking Murphy should be sacked. Has any journalist asked him what his issue is with Toure???????

Two poor attacking teams.

Dedic and Murphy dont work well together, Murphy and Osula have been anonymous, more needed from both of them in the second half.

What time does the game start

Osula!!

Assisted by Murphy!!

Willock!!

offside ffs.

Harvey Barnes 0-2!!

Newcastle Falcons adopted the Blaydon Races as after game song when they win, same as Durham ccc,...

Much better 2nd half and a clean sheet to boot

Good win that, disjointed first half, and heading for 0-0 but maybe palace relaxed too much and we picked it up.

Jacob cross just asking to be headed home, and we had a striker on end of it.

Simple stuff, and it's often overlooked.

Like TT i thought Murphy was miles off in the first half and Barnes not much better.

15 mins into the 2nd half and both have turned it around.

Big call and correct call to change the centre backs.

No coincidence Hornicek looked more confident.

Maybe palace suffering from Europe too.

What time is motd on?

Yes, no doubt donny.Started with the same side that put a shift in on Thursday night in Turkey and they looked tired.

Matty been listening to the TT podcast ref Schar and Burn!!

Three welcome points.

Interesting selections to be made for Thursday now with players coming back.

I'd imagine quite a different starting 11

We were absolutely dreadful and got what we deserved, namely nowt.
A good win for you guys though so well done.

Fair play Slippy but i dont think a lot between 2 teams.We seemed to be stronger second half but was it the wind or europe? I dont think folks realise what it takes out of teams who havent got the sqwerds." Two teams that have lost some of their best players and it showed

sqwerds

Kin orrible day innit.

Back yerm racing on kettle on that'll be all thank you.

Tea is for puffs

A divint drink tea

Horlicks or bovril?

Coffee Johnny,nap

ovaltine innit.

U21s win derby 3-2,twice coming from behind.