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viddywellbrother
18 May 18 21:33
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Firstly, appy polly loggy if there is already a thread on this.

Obviously it’s usually one of the favourites. Those with good group stage games should come in well.

My picks:

Gabriel Jesus-> 20s
Muller (if he starts)-> 36s
Mbappe!-> 36s
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Report clacherholiday2 May 18, 2018 9:44 PM BST
theyll get 4 between them

mbappe ffs.  should be 200
Report clacherholiday2 May 18, 2018 9:49 PM BST
i guess the 12th highest scorer in france last year with 13 goals at 36s is value to some
Report donny osmond May 18, 2018 9:50 PM BST
dont forget golden boot isnt the same as top scorer for betting porpoises


golden boot is awarded to top scorer, but if there is a tie it is awarded to top scorer who had most assists...
if they are tied for assists also then its least playing time.
Report viddywellbrother May 18, 2018 9:50 PM BST
There was an ! For a reason
Report clacherholiday2 May 18, 2018 9:51 PM BST
Diego Costa 38s, will start every game up top for spain, will outscore most strikers in the comp imo.

a messi or neymar hat trick is always possible hence their prices
Report mesmerised May 18, 2018 9:51 PM BST
what if playing time is identical ?
Report DIE LINKE May 18, 2018 9:52 PM BST
Mueller is GATG
Report donny osmond May 18, 2018 9:54 PM BST
mes

i guess then its a tie

unless they just give it to messi Laugh
Report viddywellbrother May 18, 2018 9:55 PM BST
Donny and mesmerised still here after all these years Surprised

Hope you are well

Where’s alesi85 ?
Report clacherholiday2 May 18, 2018 9:56 PM BST
looking at the fixtures, id expect spain to turn over morocco and iran for 3 or 4 goals, panama are also dire having watched loads of their qualifying so the england and belgium teams could be involved in a 5-6 goal game
Report CLYDEBANK29 May 18, 2018 9:57 PM BST
I've only ever seen Marathonbet state in their rules and settle on the Official Golden Boot winner.  All others settle on most goals with dead heat rules AFAIK

I'd go for Kane or Griezman myself if I had to have a bet
Report donny osmond May 18, 2018 9:59 PM BST
i thought betfair ran both markets ?
Report CLYDEBANK29 May 18, 2018 9:59 PM BST
Morocco are the best team in Africa imo with a defence at least as good as most of the European teams.  Iran are underated too, and both are very defensive as are Portugal.  It's the hardest group of the lot imo
Report viddywellbrother May 18, 2018 10:00 PM BST
Will Costa start up front over Morata ?

Lukaku worth a look too yep
Report clacherholiday2 May 18, 2018 10:00 PM BST
france play denmark, peru and aus.  i know nothing about the aussies but peru are grafters and looked alright in qualifying, i dont think theyll have any big scoresin their group
Report donny osmond May 18, 2018 10:00 PM BST
very well cheers viddy

hope you are very well too viddy !
Report CLYDEBANK29 May 18, 2018 10:01 PM BST
don't think so donny, although I might be wrong.
Report clacherholiday2 May 18, 2018 10:02 PM BST

May 18, 2018 -- 10:00PM, viddywellbrother wrote:


Will Costa start up front over Morata ?Lukaku worth a look too yep


costa up top for sure, he scored before getting injured when they hammered argentina 6-1 in march

Report CLYDEBANK29 May 18, 2018 10:04 PM BST
I think France's group is weaker.  Portugal are better than Denmark, Iran are better than Australia and Morocco are better than Peru (on paper at least)  Peru missing their captain
Report clacherholiday2 May 18, 2018 10:06 PM BST
De Gea, Carvajal, Piqué, Ramos, Alba, Koke, Thiago, Iniesta, Isco, Costa, Asensio

that was the xi who started that game, would expect alcantara to start ahead of iniesta at the worlds.  possible saul niguez aswell, they seem to love him in spain
Report mesmerised May 18, 2018 10:07 PM BST

May 18, 2018 -- 9:55PM, viddywellbrother wrote:


Donny and mesmerised still here after all these years Hope you are wellWhere’s alesi85 ?


very well ty.
Alesi85 went to the same place as Rs1, Kenilworth, UKMalaria, AlexTOWR, Jason Dodd, TMO, JOCI CLUB, The Special One, Hornets and Devlin, the Betfair GraveyardSad

Report CLYDEBANK29 May 18, 2018 10:08 PM BST
Plus the teams in Spain's group are much more defensive. Iran had the best defensive record in Asia, Morocco had the best defensive record in Africa and Portugal and Spain conceded 4 and 3 respectively in qfying
Report mesmerised May 18, 2018 10:09 PM BST

May 18, 2018 -- 9:54PM, donny osmond wrote:


mesi guess then its a tieunless they just give it to messi


Was the sponsors choice when the gave him the Golden Ball in Brazil for an underwhelming performance so wouldn't be surprised.

Report clacherholiday2 May 18, 2018 10:10 PM BST

May 18, 2018 -- 10:08PM, CLYDEBANK29 wrote:


Plus the teams in Spain's group are much more defensive. Iran had the best defensive record in Asia, Morocco had the best defensive record in Africa and Portugal and Spain conceded 4 and 3 respectively in qfying


portugal are wank, spain will batter them.  is this post a wind up?

Report clacherholiday2 May 18, 2018 10:11 PM BST
didnt holland beat them 3-0 in portugal a couple of months ago
Report viddywellbrother May 18, 2018 10:14 PM BST
Hornets Laugh he must be out of prison by now ?
Report clacherholiday2 May 18, 2018 10:14 PM BST
i guess this is what the exchange is good for, pitting opinions against each other and making money from it
Report viddywellbrother May 18, 2018 10:16 PM BST
Back lukaku before the cup final tomorrow imo
Report CLYDEBANK29 May 18, 2018 10:20 PM BST
One freak friendly result in a game in which Portugal had twice as many shots, a red card and 7 corners to the Dutch's 0.  Dtill the only group bet I've had is Morocco to qualify and the Spain/Morocco group forecast, but that's primarily because I rate Morocco (and Spain) rather than think Portugal are weak.
Report CLYDEBANK29 May 18, 2018 10:23 PM BST
The Dutch aren't very good atm like, as England proved recently
Report clacherholiday2 May 18, 2018 10:23 PM BST
how many goals does the top scorer score historically?
Report mesmerised May 18, 2018 10:23 PM BST
5-6
Report clacherholiday2 May 18, 2018 10:25 PM BST
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup_awards#Golden_Boot

yeah im seeing the table now, seems you only need to get your side to the semis to score 6
Report clacherholiday2 May 18, 2018 10:25 PM BST
quarters even
Report mesmerised May 18, 2018 10:26 PM BST
Hornets definitely wasn't the full shilling poor sod, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niY1xWMFx14
Report viddywellbrother May 18, 2018 10:26 PM BST
Doesn’t take many goals. Higuain hit a hatrick and came close for eg. Great for trading big numbers
Report clacherholiday2 May 18, 2018 10:30 PM BST
all in all it doesnt seem a good market really the more i look at it, not with everything else on offer
Report CLYDEBANK29 May 18, 2018 10:31 PM BST
Fwiw Peru lost 2-0 away in Bolivia and Chile drew 0-0 at home to Bolivia.  Chile made an official complaint about the eligibilty of one of the Bolivian players which was upheld and both Peru and Chile were awarded 3-0 wins.  It in effect cost Chile a place in the WC final at the expense of Peru, as Chile and Peru finished level on points.  Laugh
Report Ibrahima Sonko May 18, 2018 10:33 PM BST
Who was the guy who told us to back james rodriguez ?, i want his input.
Report clacherholiday2 May 18, 2018 10:39 PM BST
assume argentina get to the quarters, whats messis price for a goal going to be in each game?

v iceland 1/2
v croatia 6/5
v nigeria 4/6 (assuming he plays and they arent through already and they need a goal/point)

if they are top of their group theyll play the runners up in the french group, so peru, aus or denmark.  if its denmark he'll not be far off even money again

quarters theyll likely face spain and he'll be 2/1 for a goal.

got to assume he'll need to score 2/3 v iceland AND nigeria to collect the golden boot.

its such a **** market though, he could get a hat trick in any game, which he probably needs and the price will be higher than 12s in every match
Report clacherholiday2 May 18, 2018 10:42 PM BST
looking at it id have to go for the costa odds, assuming 5 starts theres no way hes a 38s shot.

coutinho 75s
william 160 Crazy
Report clacherholiday2 May 18, 2018 10:47 PM BST

May 18, 2018 -- 10:31PM, CLYDEBANK29 wrote:


Fwiw Peru lost 2-0 away in Bolivia and Chile drew 0-0 at home to Bolivia.  Chile made an official complaint about the eligibilty of one of the Bolivian players which was upheld and both Peru and Chile were awarded 3-0 wins.  It in effect cost Chile a place in the WC final at the expense of Peru, as Chile and Peru finished level on points. 


Grin
chile didnt deserve it anyway

Report morpteh mackem May 19, 2018 9:13 AM BST
no mention of suarez ? should get a run providing he doesn't bite someone.
Report mesmerised May 19, 2018 9:47 AM BST
mentioned Cavani in a similar thread a few weeks ago, was 33/1 at the time, scored twice as many goals as Suarez in qualifying and only played 2 more games, scored 35 goals for PSG this season, Suarez 26.
Report Callisto-moon May 19, 2018 9:49 AM BST
hornets was a fukkkking tit.
Report Callisto-moon May 19, 2018 9:57 AM BST
grown a nice little tash ffs.
to tickle his clients balls with i bet.
Report sofiakenny May 19, 2018 2:04 PM BST
careful callisto..I believe hornets was handy with his fists.
Report sofiakenny May 19, 2018 2:05 PM BST
Not many guys of his size would call out David Haye.
Report Charlton2005 May 19, 2018 2:26 PM BST
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Who was the guy who told us to back james rodriguez ?, i want his input.


he actually put up James for the Golden Ball not the Boot, but still at 100/1 could have laid off for plenty
Report clacherholiday2 May 19, 2018 10:26 PM BST

May 19, 2018 -- 9:47AM, mesmerised wrote:


mentioned Cavani in a similar thread a few weeks ago, was 33/1 at the time, scored twice as many goals as Suarez in qualifying and only played 2 more games, scored 35 goals for PSG this season, Suarez 26.


i couldnt trust cavani on his own but with suarez along side he should have loads of chances tee'd up for him

Report clacherholiday2 May 19, 2018 10:29 PM BST
only bet i can see tonight (now that nyc have come and gone) is sjeq to beat dc united in the morning
Report clacherholiday2 May 19, 2018 10:30 PM BST
some good stuff tomorrow night though.  can kansas get ANOTHER away win after turning over atlantalona?  could be a good inplay bet there depending on how the ref deals with them
Report Callisto-moon May 20, 2018 1:10 PM BST
lay that cavianni flop.
Report themightymac May 20, 2018 11:20 PM BST
WORLD CUP TOP GOALSCORERS

2014  JAMES RODRIGUEZ (COLOMBIA) 6

2010  DIEGO FORLAN (URUGUAY) 5
      THOMAS MIELLER (GERMANY) 5
      WESLEY SNEIJDER (HOLLAND) 5
      DAVID VILLA (SPAIN) 5

2006  MIROSLAV KLOSE (GERMANY) 5

2002  RONALDO (BRAZIL) 8

1998  DAVOR SUKER (CROATIA) 6

1994  HRISTO STOICHKOV (BULGARIA) 6
      OLEG SALENKO (RUSSIA) 6

1990  TOTO SCHILLACI (ITALY) 6

1986  GARY LINEKER (ENGLAND) 6

1982  PAOLO ROSSI (ITALY) 6

1978  MARIO KEMPES (ARGENTINA) 6

1974  GREGORZ LATO (POLAND) 7

1970  GERD MUELLER (WEST GERMANY) 10

1966  EUSEBIO (PORTUGAL) 9
Report GLASGOWCALLING May 20, 2018 11:34 PM BST
... my mole in Liverpool tells me Mo Salah is worth a speculative punt. ??  Cool
Report themightymac May 21, 2018 12:14 AM BST
He was matched at 100 for a pound.
Report GLASGOWCALLING May 21, 2018 12:20 AM BST
that could well be classed as speculative.  Grin

to be fair you obviously want a striker in a team that are going to keep qualifying and egypt might struggle there. !
Report themightymac May 21, 2018 12:27 AM BST
Salah could score 6 in 3 matches and set a target. Personally, I would take a chance at 100 but not 28. Good luck though!
Report Shrewd_dude May 21, 2018 11:41 AM BST
he actually put up James for the Golden Ball not the Boot, but still at 100/1 could have laid off for plenty

pretty sure he also mentioned may be worth backing golden boot at 150/1 as well.
Report Shrewd_dude May 21, 2018 11:50 AM BST
I think there is a good chance Rodrigo starts up front for Spain rather than Costa. Rather be on him at 100/1 than Costa.
Report Callisto-moon May 21, 2018 12:11 PM BST
was pure robbery that messi beat james to player of tourn 4 years ago.
Report clacherholiday2 May 21, 2018 8:27 PM BST

May 18, 2018 -- 10:00PM, viddywellbrother wrote:


Will Costa start up front over Morata ?Lukaku worth a look too yep


morata didnt make the squad, costa nailed on for 16 goals

Report Hamsterdam May 21, 2018 9:57 PM BST
Said in other thread Iago Aspas no surprise they left that mug Morata out.....2 more at the weekend back from injury he as sharp as button the last 2 seasons Costa is just an overrated clogger. Still not in this market but 80/1 elsewhere.
Report mesmerised May 21, 2018 10:03 PM BST
Anyone that actually watches Spain would not be backing Costa, he is not the focal point and Spain do not play a style that suits him.
Report Shrewd_dude May 21, 2018 10:53 PM BST
Clacher mocking the op for backing someone at 38's because he only scored 13 goals this season in the league then tipping up a striker who scored 3 goals this season in the league at the same price is the kind of stuff that makes the betfair forum priceless. Laugh
Report clacherholiday2 May 21, 2018 11:18 PM BST
what price would you make a match bet for total tournament goals?

mbappe v costa
Report clacherholiday2 May 21, 2018 11:21 PM BST

May 21, 2018 -- 10:03PM, mesmerised wrote:


Anyone that actually watches Spain would not be backing Costa, he is not the focal point and Spain do not play a style that suits him.


i think its because ive actually watched spain that i think costa will score a few.

a few on here still think they will have alonso, iniesta, xavi and biscuits tapping it around the middle.  isco, asensio, niguez and koke are not those types of players, spain have changed.  they are still very good though.

Report Shrewd_dude May 21, 2018 11:34 PM BST
what price would you make a match bet for total tournament goals?

mbappe v costa


I'm not going to price it up. I'm just commenting on your absurd reasoning.
Report mesmerised May 21, 2018 11:38 PM BST
They are still a supreme passing team that will start with Iniesta / Busquets / Silva / Alcantara and possibly Rodrigo over Costa - though I would expect the latter.

They are in a group with three tight arsed defences, Portgual, Iran who conceded 3 goals in 8 matches and Morocco who conceded the grand sum on 0 in 6.

It took a 91st minute goals for Argentina to score past Iran in the 2014 World Cup after drawing 0-0 with Nigeria previously - Carlos Quieroz is still their manager.

Think there are better options. Think Cavani will rip up his group.
Report clacherholiday2 May 21, 2018 11:43 PM BST
youd want to beon the pen taker between suarez and cavani, no idea who takes them but either would be a decent bet
Report The Bhoys May 22, 2018 9:10 PM BST
Costa will play for spain and they are very good this time, i like the look of brazil to go deep but will jesus start? Messi will play deep for argentina so dont see him scoring many as usual
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