Neymar to PSG for £195 million

may as well pay the extra 5 million and get suarez, hes miles better

transfer fees have gone off the charts this window. But so have the rumours

Didn't realise there's actually a market for this on the exchange too

Itd be a shame if he did leave Barca but his ego has to deal with Messi every game, always thought he'd end up at Real myself but PSG have the big money.

Neymars different gravy, probably my favourite top player, love how direct he is on the ball.

neymar is not half as good as suarez, amd messi probably 10 times the player..

Until Suarez has had surgery on those ratty fangs, he can not be considered a world great imo.

is that £195 million, and a milky bar?

Neymar is better than Suarez nowadays....love watching him silky tricks and skills together with a roy of the rovers mentality. Worth the money, hopefully stays at Barca.

neymar is third choice forward at barca, not in the same league as the other 2

Messi is the star man, Suarez is the focal point, Neymar is the other player outwide, definitely third fiddle at Barca, very direct but runs into walls a lot of times.

apparently given permission not to train and to talk to PSG today and trading sub 1.2 on here to go to PSG

I can't see how this gets by FFP. The reported payment as a 'World Cup Ambassador' by Qatar to buy out his Barca contract is a related party transaction and caught by FFP as I understand it

apparently La Liga are getting involved as well and are of the same view. Presumably Barca raised concerns and are getting La Liga to help. I presume La Liga have to sign off on the paperwork

Naymar is not better than Suarez. Was poor the season before last.

No better than Bale either.

La Liga do not police FFP, that is UEFA's job, so the deal could still happen and UEFA penalise PSG afterwards unless they decide to get involved beforehand. Would make a mockery of FFP if they can do a deal despite clearly being in breach. So I'd imagine UEFA will get involved to avoid that.

Loan deals do not count for this market, only permanent transfers.

Yeah I'd agree that Neymar is not irreplaceable for Barca.

I thought they were quietly doing away with FFP, how have City and United balanced the books?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/
2017/07/29/manchester-citys-220-million
-summer-spending-spree-puts-back/

I don't think FFP works or stops these clubs but it is still in place

Aug 2, 2017 -- 11:13AM, scandanavian_haven wrote:

I thought they were quietly doing away with FFP, how have City and United balanced the books?

If PSG signed Neymar for £200m on a 10 year contract it only adds £20m per season to the books.
could PSG find an extra £20m a season in sponsorship.......most likely

won't need to be a 10 year deal, they could do it in 4-6 years and you need to take wages into account as well, not just the fee. It would be something like €100m a year spread over the life of the contract. They can do that and could sell some players to reduce wages if needs be.

But the reported payment by Qatar as WC Ambassador fee to buy out the contract wouldn't work imo

There will be something dodgy to the deal somewhere clearly.

The stuff about putting it down as 20m a year on the books. Does that actually work (I know it does on a regular deal), I thought to activate a release clause you have to pay in 1 go.

They can pay Barca the full £200m now but for FFP purposes if they gave Neymar a 10 yr contract it would go down in the books as £20m per season for the length of his contract.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/
neymar-transfer-latest-psg-barcelona-la-liga-financial
-fair-play-paris-saint-germain-world-record-a7872426.html

http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/how-psg-can-sign-neyma
r-for-222m-and-not-break-ffp-rules/1st0d39j5vt1n1mboom7amsugr

all the money backing PSG has suddenly disappeared from the market

City could prob spend £500m this season and not break FFP

Current FFP regulations - updated in June 2015 - state that owners can inject cash into a club as long as they can demonstrate how they will reach break-even. And a club will also have to ensure that their losses do not exceed 30m euros (£26.81m) over three seasons.

FFP should have gone with Platini imho

Very satisfying to see Barcelona getting bullied around for a change

enforcing FFP strongly will probably push a super league closer to happening which UEFA probably worry about which is why they've seemingly softened their stance

Aug 2, 2017 -- 12:03PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:

enforcing FFP strongly will probably push a super league closer to happening which UEFA probably worry about which is why they've seemingly softened their stance

The premier league getting so rich and the cash injection in the Milan clubs is reason for the relaxing of the rules.

Neymar has been behind Messi and Suarez at Barca only because the role he is forced to play (out wide all the time)
Given his age and a freer role he is well ahead of Suarez

Clubs can spend €5m more than they earn over 3 years to 2017/18 but this can be increased to €30m over 3 years if entirely covered by a direct contribution from the owner or related party. So that is a limit on what an owner can inject, €25m in total over 3 years. They will have to dress it up some other way. They are going to use increased shirt sales and merchandising from Neymar's arrival to argue that their revenue will increase.

I think most people would much rather have Suarez than Neymar in their team

UEFA only seem to police FFP at the end of each 3 year period and if they do that again, then they will only look at PSG at the end of 2017/18. But if they were to look at this deal now, they'd have to shoot it down IMO.

PL clubs will make at least £250m each from PL rights alone in the current 3 year period. PSG don't have a TV deal anything like that and they can't just get the Qatari's to inject say €300m to finance this deal, they can only get €25m max from them. So they are going to have to show an enormous increase in revenue all in one season (2017/18) when UEFA come knocking in a year. I can't see how they will do this, so they will either do the deal regardless and be sanctioned for it or UEFA will decide to step in now and block it.

I'm not sure if UEFA have the power to step in now and block it, but they might warn PSG that this is a nonsense deal and they will come down hard on them for such a flagrant breach?

We're talking about an increase of about €100m on their books in 2017/18 (that is approximately the annual value of Neymar's fee + wages for each year of the contract). Maybe they'll be able to get around it but I can't see how.

That is all posturing. UEFA won't do anything. How can they rule it as a nonsense deal really?

UEFA refunded £33m this year of the fine imposed on City back in 2014 for breach of FFP

Naymar may be extremely marketable but struggles to make top 4 in the world for me. Come to think of it I'd rather have Hazard too.

Suarez better than Neymar Almost feel guilty taking money off such dunces.

as i said i don't even know if they've to power under FFP to do anything about it right now, but magically producing an extra €100m revenue in one season seems like pie in the sky to me. But we'll see

Just imagine how much Lord Bendtner must be worth.

Suarez isn't fit to lace Neymar's boots, there's not even a discussion to be had on the subject.

Suarez is twice the player Neymar is, he's averaged 27.8 goals the last 5 seasons, Neymar 16.2

are you a man united fan duffy?

How did you guess, however I am serious, Neymar is different gravy to Suarez. IMO

Sanchez back to Barca?

Who wants Cavani ?

could barca come in for mbappe, they have the money and ronnie doesnt want RM to sign him

I'd have Suarez over Neymar too. But Neymar is worth a lot more due to age and merchandising

Neymar is far better than Suarez, is there even a discussion, not sure what Im reading here?

Can I get a confirmed list of the people who say Suarez is the superior player please

Depends how you are defining better?

He is faster, probably has more tricks than him, but Suarez's movement in and around the box along with his goal ratio compared to Neymar then it's a non contest.

People who think Suarez is better than Neymar don't watch La Liga.. 2 years ago maybe but Neymar is way better these days. Suarez may have scored a few more Messi assisted goals but Neymar stands alone as the third best player in the world.

This isn't even a debate really.

Disappointed he's gone to that muggy French league though. PSG will be like Bayern and get knocked out of the CL as soon as they come up against someone decent.

5 year deal
over 500k per week AFTER tax

The worlds gone mad.

Neymar is over rated-He looked good in the Barca side because if was surrounded by exceptionally gifted forward players in Messi and Suarez.He will be offloaded to Utd next season who will need a replacement for Lukaku,the new Benticke

half a million strawberry tarts per week, this world gets worse every day.

I always watch La Liga esp Barca games and agree with loanwolf. Not saying Neymar is not top drawer but would rather Suarez in my team.

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5 year deal
over 500k per week AFTER tax

The worlds gone mad.

Football world gone mad Hamster, I thought it had 5 years or more ago but it seems never ending and with numbers like this its beyond ridiculous now what clubs are will to spend on individuals and wages every week on top, its literally insane tbh  esp when most  professional clubs struggle away on shoestring budgets outside the top flights

willing to spend soz

Suarez all day and twice on Sundays .

i also believe Barca put that buy out clause in, in the assumption that no one could break it.

scandanavian_haven
hitmanhearn

anyone else care to join put suarez ahead of neymar

They are both forwards. Suarez is more direct and at the moment the better goal scorer.
In one respect it is fair play to Neymar as he seems to be fed up playing third fiddle and wants to become the main man at a big club
And make no mistake PSG are a big club.
And the French League 1 could be the one to watch for the future.
Marseilles, Lyon, Nice, Lille and Monaco will serve up a fair challenge. Most of them have new stadia now and are looking at increased revenues themselves.
I can see france challenging Italys Serie A the way things are going.
PSG have looked very staid since Zlatan departed. Midfield is very functional. There will be a heavy reliance on Neymar to deliver.
He was an absolute revelation at Corinthians as a kid, winning the copa libertadores and he was the standout player.
With Brazil i have to say he has not come up to the standards of pele, zico, romario, the original ronaldo, etc. He has been their main man, the team built around him and he has won nothing.
Neymar is the sort of player who turns it in when his team are losing. He is selfish at times, far happier trading on his celebrity earning soft free kicks with clear dives. Contrast that with the will to win of Messi, CR7 and Suarez.
Neymar still has time on his side and this new Brazil coach Tite seems to have something about him so that could change.
But at the moment I think Neymar has a lot to prove and a fair way to go to achieve the level of Suarez.

450 million....a snip

thelatarps

that almost entirely nonsense, not just the factually incorrect info about corinthians or not winning anything with brazil but especailly his attitude when things get tough.

his biggest strength as a player is his ability to lead on the field, he is the driving force behind almost everything brazil and recently barcelona do, the guy has been dragging the so called superstars around him over the line for the past season.

remember when they came back to beat psg 6-1 in the greatest comeback in football history?  who was it that stepped up to take on the free kick and ****g penalty to make it 4-1 and 5-1?  it wasnt messi or jaws, theres no way you can say neymar doesnt have the bottle for a fight, messi and ronaldo have both wasted and ballooned pens when on the line

there was little pressure on the psg game pen, it was in extra time already and had neymar missed nobody would have been expecting the 6th goal after anyway, messi took all the pressure pens last season, dont think he missed one until the final game when it was basically all over anyway for la liga

neymars performances can vary greatly, he seems more of a confidence player, some games he almost goes to pieces if things dont go right from the start and then he can have a game like the psg one, having a player like messi is double edged for him and he'll probably benefit from not having that pressure

*injury time (not extra time)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qC4q9FUX64

bottler

he actually has a better record in penalty shoot outs than penaldo and a better spot kick record than neymar at barca (despite neymar often talking pens when barca were well in front to boost his confidence) dont let the facts get in the way of your emotional response though clach

imagine how much he would cost if he was any good

La Liga rejects buy-out clause payment

...this could get messy

^^^^^brown envelope time...no worries

La Liga thinking they have jurisdiction over this is ridiculous. The FFP deadline for this year has already passed (17 June) so PSG's next inspection won't be until next year

you'd have thought Barca want it to happen at this stage, they hard;y want him back? But La Liga trying to protect the power of its big two clubs? Surely they're not going against Barca's wishes here?

The head of La Liga is a lifelong Real Madrid fan

Most over 35s think the move a downgrade.  For most under 35s it's not so black and white.

This is the age of money.  Money is king.  The top Chinese clubs can outbid most western teams.  Watford, Bournemouth and wba, etc can out muscle porto, benfica, etc.
The ex manager of cska squats at his mate's place(Roman)for almost a year and is grateful to get the hull job at the end of it.

Players and agents are putas willing to open their legs to the highest bidder(well most of them).  The biggest pimps come from a pariah state.

wonder how the 1.01 backing mugs are feeling right now

UEFA will just tell La Liga they can't block it and that will be that imho

apparently la liga have no legal foundation to block, if barca can get coutinho + mbappe for neymar + £50m i think they will be happy, madrid do not want to lose mbappe to their main rivals though (despite ronnie saying he doesnt want him at madrid)...

La Liga breaching FIFA rules...there's a first

UEFA have no legal foundation to block either. FFP is nonsense

looks like they just flew over to Barcelona to pay it

La Liga embarrassed themselves today even attempting to block the deal, it's like a cowboy operation that they don't even know what their powers are or aren't.  I imagine they're taking it bad because it does seriously harm their league in terms of TV audience, millions in South America will now be watching more of PSG than Barca.

I think we've finally maxed out, don't think this'll ever be beaten only Messi and Ronaldo could have gone for more but even then you'd have to factor in their ages so probably would be less.

I think he's doing this because he was in Messi's shadow and he wants to win the Baloon Door, can't do that out wide for Barca. Cavani could be sold now ?

Sickening that the biggest cheat/diver in football is now also the most expensive player.

Can't blame La Liga for trying to keep Neymar. Remove Neymar, Messi, Suarez, Bale and Ronaldo from that league, and it's pretty much The Bundesliga or Ligue One. Albeit with a lot more diving and rolling around

Wonder who will be the first £200million player id say Kane to united next year if they dont win the league this year.

I don't really get La Liga's stance at all. Real and Barca are always going to be perennial CL clubs and Spain is more attractive to galacticos than England. Those two always have and always will get the top players in.

I don't get the 198 mil gonna be the biggest waste of money ever bet cha gareth bale and paul pogba feel relieved now.

I wonder how much psg will be fined for breaking the FFP rules, £50m ?

0p

think you are wrong mover, the rules are written fill the coffers at uefa.

"Go and have a Coffee, don't worry about PSG"

There will be no action.

Arrogant qatar owners must have payed back handers too just like the world cup money talks.

The rules state that fines will be enforced if spending outweighs income by 30M.

I will tt this when it is known. Uefa are loving this transfer as it give them loads of cash, for their deep pockets.

Under FFP, it can be balanced over the length of the player's contact, which is 5 years.

The relevant period for FFP is 3 years and the current 3 year period finishes at the end of the 2017/18 season and then accounts are assessed. Forget about the fee, the relevant number is the fee + plus total wages + agents fees + bonuses divided by number of years of the contract, which is 5. The total spend is about €500m and for FFP purposes, that is €100m a year for 5 years, so PSG will have to show increased revenue this year of about 100m, less any profits made, less 30m. You are talking about them showing increased revenue of about €60m this year in order not to trip FFP. They will have to sustain that for the other 4 years of the contract too but that is for other FFP periods and not relevant to the current one. That is doable, I don't think they will do it but we'll see. It really comes down to the coming season as to whether they will trip FFP.

They wouldn't have to pay backhanders now because there is no assessment of whether this complies with FFP now, which makes a mockery of FFP really. If the deal was 3bn in total they could still go ahead even tho everyone would know they couldn't comply with FFP. The rules don't allow UEFA to step in and stop any deal. Sanctions can only be imposed afterwards and only once every 3 years.

Qatar could loan 100bn to PSG and that is irrelevant for FFP. The only relevant numbers are what you spend (amortised over the years of the contract) versus what you bring in in legitimate revenue.

UEFA are not going to take on these clubs on their own. It is the likes of Real, Barca, Bayern who need to step up and do something about it in order for it to stop and that might happen now.

Let's hope not, I love an underdog

just a thought on neymar, yes he should benefit by being the main man at psg but he will also be more closely marked, at barca he'll have got relatively more space due to the other players around him, at psg he'll possibly be double marked and of course defenders wont be afraid to leave a bit on him (but nothing new there)

Neymar senior sounds like a tricky customer.  Trying to get paid by both clubs.

The kid had no chance with that little s hit handling his finances.

Would anyone put neymar in the 10 best players of all time messi and ronaldo yes neymar is 25 so could improve but will never be as good as those two.

Just away to watch PSG on eir sport 4.15, thought Neymar might have been on, looks like he wasn't registered in time for first game.