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24 Apr 17 17:42
Date Joined: 11 Sep 10
| Topic/replies: 32 | Blogger: Skeck's blog
Afternoon all,

Thank god work is over for a day and we can look forward to some more footie on tonight. I doubt we'll have the same quality as last night. Messi is the GOAT!

I've got a few of pools on tonight. Some bankers Toon to win, Roma to win.

Have a look here:
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Report Skeck April 24, 2017 10:45 PM BST
How did everyone's bets going this evening? Overs on Toon and Roma? My pool I created looks good, I'm trying to post a photo but it's 'pending approval'. There are two legs left, Chelsea and Wolves.

I've gone Chelsea win, any doubters? For the Wolves game, gone draw or Huddersfield win. They need to win really to secure a play of place.

I've got some more pools up -

Twitter - @BrizzleBets

Any questions please ask.
Report Skeck April 24, 2017 11:07 PM BST
This one for tomorrow looks good -
Report Skeck April 25, 2017 9:01 AM BST

Here is it is.

BIG OVERS/UNDERS Pool open. Anyone wanna share £125,000?? Not quite a Tevez wage but you'll be able to buy the wife/partner something nice ;)
Report clacherholiday2 April 25, 2017 11:08 AM BST
can you explain where the value is in thus colossus stuff
Report clacherholiday2 April 25, 2017 11:16 AM BST
Why Join a Colossus Syndicate?
Increase your probability of winning
Choose which tickets to join
Benefit from the knowledge of other players
Report clacherholiday2 April 25, 2017 11:17 AM BST
Report 11kv April 25, 2017 12:30 PM BST
Report Skeck April 25, 2017 1:06 PM BST
You've answered your own question. Well done
Report Skeck April 25, 2017 5:34 PM BST
I did write up more than that last reply but on my phone so for some reason it didn't post.

It went along the lines of - I'd like to start creating pools with your help,  we decide on what pool and the results then join the syndicate. If results go our way WE decide the cashout not just me. More community betting rather than the one captain.

Let me know if you're interested.

BTW - correct score pool 41% complete, could do with some more peeps joining. Playing for 70k share.
Report AFTERTHOUGHT April 25, 2017 5:59 PM BST
No idea how this really works but I've bought a share in a pool so lets see how it goes.
Report TheChaser April 25, 2017 6:11 PM BST
Report Skeck April 25, 2017 6:25 PM BST
I'd be more than giggling if I won £131,000 like one user won on Sunday!! Big money. I've been doing accas and singles for years. This makes a really nice chance. Ok it's essentially an acca that gets put on but I like the social side.
Report TheChaser April 25, 2017 6:37 PM BST
Report TheChaser April 25, 2017 6:39 PM BST
I bought some shares in some pools and got no returns but the chief did offer me a cashout at one point for like 45pence
Report scandanavian_haven April 25, 2017 7:02 PM BST
Does anyone else get the feeling that Betfair have plants on the forum heavily trying to promote syndicates all of a sudden ? You are essentially buying a lottery ticket / playing an accumalator.
Report TheChaser April 25, 2017 7:07 PM BST

Report donny osmond April 25, 2017 7:09 PM BST
if they are plants they will read this and i would suggest they do more
promoting of the pools

they could even do question and answer sessions on the forum
Report TheChaser April 25, 2017 7:10 PM BST
Report TheChaser April 25, 2017 7:12 PM BST
Report TheChaser April 25, 2017 7:14 PM BST
they could even do question and answer sessions on the forum

The kids of today wouldn't be able to answer any betting questions.They read books and programs and think they are pros

They get paid by the hour to try and promote this when we all know its there

Cine on SKECKS show us some wins you said in general bets you won a few quid

No one on here that started a sndy has ever posted a screenshot of winners when asked

It would promote their sites so much easier so this leaves me thinking they dont bet
Report MC Roller April 25, 2017 7:23 PM BST
This syndicate business sounds exciting, but it's not exciting enough for me. I'd rather watch Atletibore Madrab v Atletibore Madrab B every time.

Oh yeah, and before I forget.............

Report TheChaser April 25, 2017 7:29 PM BST
They forget we learned out trade in back street smokey bookies

We cant be fooled by computer systems

We met the good punters ( the so called software was not needed ) we met the mug punters also

Software show me a screenshot of wins and ill buy some software Laugh

Get on ebay and try sell it not on BF forum
Report Skeck April 25, 2017 11:32 PM BST
Evening gents.

I get your skepticism. How odd, this lad has been registered since 2010 but not said anything. Well I had nothing to say until now.

The whole idea of a syndicate is getting people to join so hence me coming on here to let you know Betfair do pool betting using the Colossus Bets platform. Thought some of you might be interested.

I'm just an average Joe who decided to give pool betting ago. I've used every bookie under the sun, be it in a shop or online. Poker and Casino stuff. I generally bet on football, sometimes the golf, darts, I do the lottery. No 'software' here just my gut or stupidity.

Question for you guys, why does it take so long for photos to be vetted. I'm talking about my winning slips you've requested.
Report TheChaser April 25, 2017 11:37 PM BST
MODS be in bed

They finish at 8pm
Report clacherholiday2 April 25, 2017 11:37 PM BST
have betfair cleared up the uk tax issue with syndicate captains picking other peoples bets for them?
Report TheChaser April 25, 2017 11:38 PM BST
I say it's illegal
Report Skeck April 25, 2017 11:40 PM BST

Apr 25, 2017 -- 11:37PM, TheChaser wrote:

MODS be in bed They finish at 8pm

In bed! Mods should work 24/7.

I'm sure Betfair would check, they wouldn't have anything dodgy on their site. Would they?

Report TheChaser April 25, 2017 11:47 PM BST
Yeah sure they check 24/7

GTFI get back on the other fred and stop pretending your away for a smoke
Report Skeck April 26, 2017 12:01 AM BST
Can we start again TheChaser? I didn't know this would rattle so many feathers Silly
Report clacherholiday2 April 26, 2017 12:12 AM BST
seem to recall it coming up on general betting a few years ago about a guy getting into bother running a syndicate which eventually grew quite large.

there was a grey area whether or not they were acting as a betting agent depending on how the pools are paid out.  the cash out option on here looks a bit iffy to me, im sure BF have covered it in the small print.

sure before the pool is paid into the person paying in is choosing their own bet, as they can see all the selections and returns available, as has been said its like putting on an accumulator.  however when the cash out option is thrown in, youve then got one person deciding the second bets odds and return, without the original bettor being involved.

its illegal in the uk for 2 people standing side by side in a betting shop to pass a slip to the other person, who will then place the bet for them.  the bookmaker is under no obligation to pay out at all to anyone but the guy who physically hands it over to the cashier and its then up to the person who handed the bet over to decide how much he wants to give back to the first person who wrote the slip out in the first place. 

its not just a case of ensuring people play fair, bets now are legally enforcable outwith reasonable discretion like ambiguous selections or prices, the contract is between the person handing the bet+money over and the various license holders accepting it.  the license holder has to put in place a whole load of controls, such as agreeing to the bets terms (selection, stake, odds), having all market rules displayed before the bet is placed and ensuring the person placing the bet is in control of their own actions, the bookmakers have whats called social responsibility to not take bets from people who show signs of problem gambling.

betting agents either in the uk, who have uk based customers or bet against uk licensed bookmakers have to comply wit hthe same set of regulations the bookmakers do, a betting agent needs a license to ensure they arent taking funds that have come from an illegal source or from roulette junkies gambling with credit card debt.

so if somebody running a syndicate is now deciding when to cash out on the original bet, theyre now placing a bet for somebody else, which is illegal in the uk.  theyre also spamming twitter, the betfair forum and god knows where else trying to find people to buy in to these things with no care given for social responsibility, they could be hawking their amazing 200k acca to people with mental problems or a history of gambling addiction, yet they themselves arent covered by the same licensing as the bookmakers when the bookmakers advertise bets.

all the major high street firms have to place responsible gambling notices with all their ads in shop and on twitter, they call ask you to please gamble responsibly.  now theres all these **** just spamming their pals facebooks saying please come bet with me, ive picked a winner.
Report clacherholiday2 April 26, 2017 12:18 AM BST
maybe im wrong or my info is out of date, both highly likely but id caution anyone from handing your cash over to these things as long as the cash out option is available.

if they cash out a £100k pool for £300, then the pool goes on to have every selection win, youve no comeback against them.  same goes the other way around aswell, a £100k pool could be sitting on a £90k cash out with 5 minutes left in a game where the side youve backed is getting battered, sometimes its OK to trade out.
Report scandanavian_haven April 26, 2017 12:31 AM BST
good post clacher

this is what I was saying on one of the other syndicate threads, it's bizarre that one person can cash out on behalf of the syndicate entrie considering that the minumum contribution from the 'captain' is 10% of a ticket, and the maximum another entrant can contribute is 50% of the ticket, if I owned half of a ticket in a big prize pool, I wouldn't want somebody with a fifth of my stake deciding when to or when not to cash  or what % to cash out out of the bet if at all.

There should be two options, one that allows cash out of a syndicate and one that doesn't so people have a choice, though as you say the legality of one person placing a bet for several others is questionable.
Report BRIGGSY08 April 26, 2017 12:56 AM BST
I was saying this the other month when gethin was running his syndicate, he shud be locked up
Report TheChaser April 26, 2017 1:25 AM BST
gtfi , fbt , gethhin and many more alias will continue to post fake bets on here until he gets people to move to his site

but he cant win steady so non chance
Report clacherholiday2 April 26, 2017 1:46 AM BST
Easiest thing would be scrapping the cash out option entirely, best would be making it optional from the start.  Who knows it could even lead to situations whre theres actually some value there for punters, we dont know how the syndicates will evolve.

I like what betfair are trying to do even though its not for me, there isnt really a facility out there that socialises betting itself rather than just the usual chatter about the events themselves on here and other social media but its an interesting experiment.  If they really wanted to push the narrative of people working together for a single bet they should have that up and running from day one, where people buying in can talk to each other and vote.for changes or whatever. 

As I see it just now its just a new way of putting on football accumulators, which nobody needs, especially when theres a total stranger out there with their finger onthe trigger waiting to make a terrible call in running.

Seems the most obvious drawback to everyone besides these 'captains' Grin
Report TheChaser April 26, 2017 1:55 AM BST
We all know who will be running them
Report Skeck April 26, 2017 10:20 AM BST
Firstly let me apologise for the 'spamming' I'm new to this forum and can see how it might of come across.

The whole reason I came on here was to tell you about the pools and syndicate betting. If it isn't for you (ignore me) but for those that want to get involved they can. Betfair want in otherwise they wouldn't run the Colossus Bets platform on here.

I want the to be comes a community betting thing, we create the slips and make te decisions. For me Twitter is a great way to quickly chat to someone about a bet. Chat about the CASHOUT at half time etc.

The stakes for the pools is small but the wins can be big. I'll post the pics now they are 'approved'
Report Skeck April 26, 2017 10:22 AM BST

off 80p
Report Skeck April 26, 2017 10:25 AM BST

I started two weeks ago.
Report GTFI April 26, 2017 10:39 AM BST

Apr 26, 2017 -- 12:56AM, BRIGGSY08 wrote:

I was saying this the other month when gethin was running his syndicate, he shud be locked up

MY syndicate is still running actually...   if you weren't such a plonker you would realise that as you'd be man enough to be on there instead of being one of the "kids/trolls" that i banned....
And before you say "I've never been on there,   then how can you make false accusations if you have no idea how my FREE syndi is doing?  tahts right,  i didnt charge a single penny to join it.....   
Nexxxxxxxxxt ???????

Report Skeck April 26, 2017 12:54 PM BST
It's lunchtime at work so thought I'd say hi 'HI'

For those that are interested. I have a BETFAIR (yes the company that owes this forum) pool running

Wins for
Boro or Sunderland

I can take rejection if you don't join in. I'm as solid as the old Arsenal back 4. Big Tone and Co!
Report scandanavian_haven April 26, 2017 1:19 PM BST
you sound like a second hand car dealer
Report Skeck April 26, 2017 1:22 PM BST

Apr 26, 2017 -- 1:19PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:

you sound like a second hand car dealer

haha Happy That's a good one. How did you guess? Anyone wanna buy a Toyota?

Report Skeck April 26, 2017 1:39 PM BST
Before I go back to work (and try and sell that Toyota Starlet) does anyone have any proper questions about Colossus Bets syndicate betting? I'll try and answer them for you.
Report Skeck April 27, 2017 8:58 PM BST
Last night was tough. Had a correct score pool on and needed Palace to score. The cashout would be awesome now as Manchester derby score I picked was low scoring. Alas it didn't come in but only put a couple of quid on (potential win was a share of £50k)

Move on to the next. Which is way I'm back on here and thanks to those that have joined in so far. More pools up
Report Skeck April 28, 2017 10:33 AM BST
Morning all. It's Friday and payday for more. So I've put some pools up. From £8 total obvs you don't need to pay 8 quid but that could win a share of 5k.

Got Toon or Cardiff in that one. I've got a JACKPOT scores playing for over 2 MILLION ££

Same place as always

Any questions, just ask or tweet me @brizzlebets
Report Skeck April 29, 2017 9:26 AM BST
Celtic gonna win easy at 12, right?

I've covered the 1-0, 2-0, 2-1 and Celtic any other (so to score 4 or more) anyone think that won't happen? If you think it will, come join me. Link above.
Report mega88 April 29, 2017 9:53 AM BST

Apr 25, 2017 -- 11:47PM, TheChaser wrote:

Yeah sure they check 24/7GTFI get back on the other fred and stop pretending your away for a smoke


Report mega88 April 29, 2017 9:54 AM BST
Report Skeck May 1, 2017 11:04 AM BST
Do you mean the general thread, TheChaser? If you could advise me which one you're referring to I'll join it.

Back to the betting - I had a pick5 pool on yesterday and bloody Bordeaux let me it down. All other results came in. Anyway we move on, I've put a few more on today if you're interested.
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