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The Dragon
22 Apr 17 10:02
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we are about to find out .... i reckon they might be?

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By:
jed.davison
When: 22 Apr 17 10:45
Why would you think that?
By:
The Dragon
When: 22 Apr 17 10:50
well they blew up last season on the run in and they are yet to win anything so i think there is defo a question mark over them.

i hope im wrong as i would like to see them win something
By:
willow2807
When: 22 Apr 17 10:51
best team in the league at the moment ,so 2-1 ,3-1 to spurs for me
By:
The Dragon
When: 22 Apr 17 10:56
2/1 is a nice price
By:
Blackrock
When: 22 Apr 17 10:57
OP - spot on. Spurs have been bottlers for years. Shyte themselves once again this afternoon.LaughLaugh
By:
jed.davison
When: 22 Apr 17 11:08
They blew up last season, nothing to do with bottling it - they were trying to catch Leicester and that proved impossible because Leicester never dropped any points. Once that target was out of sight, they lost their heads a bit, they were not playing to finish second and only Arsenal fans gave a toss where the two teams finished relative to each other.

And no they haven't won anything, but this team has had two seasons to win something - they will be second at worst in the League and they're in the FA Cup semi-final. Considering their average age I would say that was a pretty decent achievement, especially given Spurs' net spend over the last ten years and the relatively low basic salary enjoyed by even their best players.

It is lazy, and foolish, to call this Spurs team bottlers. They are currently on a run of seven League wins in a row, and have won fourteen and lost one of their last seventeen League fixtures. How this makes them bottlers I don't know.
By:
anxious
When: 22 Apr 17 11:09
Think this is the moment of truth for Tottenham , yes they have some very good players and a very good manager but  now they need the next step which is to beat another big rival in a Semi-final if they can win this may prove that they have what it takes to compete at a high level , if they were to lose however it may affect them adversly
By:
jed.davison
When: 22 Apr 17 11:11
anxious, have they not already proved that they can compete at a high level? Sure they might lose today, but what will it definitively prove? They're playing the League leaders ffs.
By:
anxious
When: 22 Apr 17 11:32
Jed at this stage in Development Manchester United in 1996 with a team of promising youngsters and a few experienced players won the double after a famous tv pundit said - you cant win anything with kids Crazy
By:
jed.davison
When: 22 Apr 17 11:35
Their main opposition was Newcastle United mate, now that was a team of chokers, who choked regularly over a period of several years.
By:
rommel
When: 22 Apr 17 11:35
dont give anx any chance to bring up uniteds glorious past,we'll all rue it,oh how we rue it
By:
Cork Langer
When: 22 Apr 17 11:51
Harsh to label Spurs as anything at the moment, grown mentally throughout this season from what I have seen of them, have been a joy to watch and very much looking forward to seeing how they approach the problem they face today in breaking down a team who has had their pride wounded badly with recent results, though they should of course have beaten us (Palace), the Utd team made them look distinctly average and they will be anxious to put that behind them, everything is set up nicely and as a neutral could not ask for more, let battle commence...!
By:
jon b
When: 22 Apr 17 13:36
Agree with Cork, looking forward to this one later more so than my team playing tomorrow. This game wont show anything ref Bottling for Spurs, Chelsea are a proper team so anything can happen here but a loss wont prove nothing, fancy Spurs tonight btw
By:
The Dragon
When: 22 Apr 17 15:50
y they remind be of the south african cricket team backin the day  everyone knew they were class but they just couldnt win
By:
Des Pond
When: 22 Apr 17 15:51
Hazard and Costa out?
By:
gotitwrong-
When: 22 Apr 17 15:54
radio  5live just reported rumours from Wembley that costa and hazard both out for Chelsea - say they will try and find out
By:
jon b
When: 22 Apr 17 18:28
Cracking game
By:
The Dragon
When: 24 Apr 17 11:47
well there is the first one lostShocked
By:
jon b
When: 24 Apr 17 12:43
losing to Chelsea is hardly choking Dragon, don't really get your point?
By:
Cork Langer
When: 24 Apr 17 12:58
They did indeed lose but not through lack of effort or bottle, they could have been out of sight if they had of got the rub of the green, be afraid of us suffering the backlash on Wednesday night.
By:
The Dragon
When: 24 Apr 17 13:55
just that they seem to get in touching distance of winning and then fail? is it that they are not quite godd enough ( not my view) or is it that until they get over the line there is a mental block to winning for them?
By:
Coachbuster
When: 24 Apr 17 17:20
or a dodgy lasagne
By:
jon b
When: 28 Apr 17 09:32
This weekend could be very interesting, Everton have nowt to play for other than pride,  they should though want to beat the Champions elect in front of their fans, if they can beat Chelsea then that really would open the doors wide and Spurs who play a massive game later will know the opportunity is there to apply max pressure on the leaders, the earlier game result can have a massive influence on the London Derby, Everton could set up the bank Holiday weekend nicely
By:
The Dragon
When: 28 Apr 17 12:40
wd certainly make it interesting
By:
MrMeaner
When: 28 Apr 17 13:33
Spurs deserve a lot of praise regardless of what happens between now & the end of the season. Best defensive record in the league & just short of being the league's top scorers. If they can keep hold of Poch for a few years then I don't think they'll have long to wait before they're crowned PL champions.
By:
lurka
When: 28 Apr 17 16:38
They choked it a bit last year in the last few games. Can't really say they have this year, yet, but there are questions. If Everton beat Chelsea and they lose to Arsenal given their home record, which is pretty amazing, then yes imo.
By:
Knight Rider
When: 28 Apr 17 16:50
Typically in sport you have to throw away a winning position to be deemed a "choke".  Last year Spurs were trying to chase down a Leicester side that never stopped winning, and after it became mathematically impossible to win the league they certainly seemed to down tools for the last couple of games but that's not really the same thing as choking.

It's hard to see how they could choke this year's title with Chelsea about 1/10 pokes even with Spurs winning every match.  They'd have to catch them and then lose to Hull on the final day or something.
By:
mafeking
When: 28 Apr 17 17:12
people said the same about liverpool in 2014. even though they won something like 13 matches in a row to get it into their own hands they still had no margin for error. 1 mistake against chelsea was all it took to lose it

in my book to choke you have to give away a big lead, an almost unloseable position
By:
jed.davison
When: 28 Apr 17 17:20
The Palace game cost Liverpool the League tbf
By:
mafeking
When: 28 Apr 17 17:22
still would have lost it on GD even they won that game. that's why they went chasing after more goals at 3-0 rather than shutting up shop
By:
rommel
When: 28 Apr 17 17:40
the great CHOKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKE,was saf and YERNITTTED,8 POINTS AHEAD
By:
sofaking
When: 28 Apr 17 17:42
It appears that the vast majority of people here (or on any football forum) don't understand the meaning of "choking".   Newcastle in 1995-96 was the perfect example of a choke job,  being 12 points clear at the top in mid January but losing the title by 4 points to Man U. Or Arsenal last season top of the table in January but finishing 11 points behind Leicester.
By:
homefortea
When: 28 Apr 17 19:46
Of course they are...

Check out the Trophy Cabinet...If they can find it.
By:
The Dragon
When: 28 Apr 17 20:04
choking is not all about throwing away a winning lead , it can be in a really good position - allbeit chasing - and losing it
By:
sofaking
When: 28 Apr 17 20:06

Apr 28, 2017 -- 8:04PM, The Dragon wrote:


choking is not all about throwing away a winning lead , it can be in a really good position - allbeit chasing - and losing it


Nah.

By:
lurka
When: 28 Apr 17 21:57
If Rodgers had sat back against Chelsea and got a draw Liverpool would have won it imo. Instead he went for the win and got hit by Mourinho tactics. Chelsea had to win that game, not Liverpool, and they didn't play or line up like they wanted to win it, were also missing Terry and Cech. Liverpool would have been in pole position with a point and wouldn't have had to chase goals against Palace. Instead Rodgers played right into Chelsea's hands. That's where they lost it for me.
By:
lurka
When: 28 Apr 17 22:03
Also Chelsea dropped 5 points to Sunderland and Norwich in their last 5 games that season, they'd have won it if they'd won those. So you could say that Pool and Chelsea both choked. And United Choked against Everton the other year City won it. And in both those years City were in pole position before that and choked a lead only to have it choked back to them in both title winning years!
By:
mafeking
When: 28 Apr 17 23:13
from what i remember liverpool panicked in the 2nd halfand starting shooting from everywhere and lumping it in the box rather than playing the football that had blown teams away the previous few months

united lost to wigan as well who went on a crystal palace style run beating all sorts of big sides to escape from nowhere
By:
lurka
When: 29 Apr 17 08:33
yep but they conceded a goal in the last minute of each half against Chelsea and were a goal down at that stage. Very unlucky with the first (Gerrard slip) but going a goal down to that Chelsea side was the one thing he should have tried to avoid.

Rodgers went with the attacking football that had blown most teams away within 30 minutes at anfield and you sort of can't criticise him too much as he thought he shouldn't change a winning formula but he played like he needed 3 points when he didn't and Chelsea did. But once he went a goal down and Chelsea had everyone behind the ball his normal game plan wasn't working, hence the lumping into the box/panicking.

Perhaps he should have set up more cautiously and waited for a depleted Chelsea side to come out and play, as they were the ones who needed to win the game and you could see that Mourinho was lined up for the backs to the wall/smash and grab tactics. A 0-0 would have been a perfect result but it's not in his nature I suppose.
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