Bet Angel or Geek's Toy? Which is the better trading software for Betfair?

What sort of trading are you looking to do?  What markets?

Mainly football and horse racing. Scalping etc.

Well you can do it with either, Ive more experience with BA but I think GT has a slightly easier learning curve. 

If you ever get into automation with excel I think bet angel is better but I didnt get on too deep with geeks toy like I said.

They both have free trials I think, try them both.

Cheers.  Yeah, I've tried Bet Angel on trial and I'm slowly figuring it out.  Guess I'd be complicating matters if I also tried Geek's Toy.  I can get BA with a 50% discount so I'll probably register with them.

Their forum is pretty dead but theres a good archive for answers to most questions, it was invaluable to me when I got started.

If you do need to ask something you usually wont need t wait more than 24 hours for a reply.

Ok cheers.  I checked their forum briefly and it does look fairly busy now.

I used geeks toy years ago, was what you'd call a friendly user experience did what it needed to do, yea was OK

Depends what you want to do and how in depth you want to go. I've used Geeks Toy since 2012 and I'm more than happy with it, it does everything I want it to do and £20 a quarter is cheap at the price.

The only thing I miss from BA is the Guardian feature, but I can live without that. As clacherholiday2 said if you are going in with your own spreads then BA is probably better, otherwise I'd go with Geeks.

I use Gruss, it's excellent and good value at £6 per month

Went with Bet Angel Pro in the end.  Cheers for the feedback.

main advantage of Geeks is price. I paid £120 lifetime licence about 5 years ago. Betangel will cost you £600 for 5 years and counting assuming the price doesn't rise