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bigmo
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Good piece in the Football Outlook this week

Fate of teams who went into Europa league group games needing to win.

2012-13

2W 1D 3L  33%

2013-14

3W 1D 3L  43%

2014-15

3W 1D 8L   25%

2015-16

3W 3D 5L   27%
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Report CJ70 December 8, 2016 1:51 PM GMT
They should have further broke that down into teams needing to win vs teams with nothing to play for. I don't have the data sets used but I'm guessing there are number of fixtures included where both teams need to win which distorts the figures from anything meaningful.

Perhaps they outlined their methodology and that issue in the write up?
Report bigmo December 8, 2016 2:49 PM GMT
Teams needing to win CJ70 ARE....


AZ
Standard
Braga
Feyenoord
Austria Vienna
Maccabi
Dundalk draw might do it
Astra can be pipped by Celta

Saints need a draw as Hapoel do but Hapoel need a score draw.

That's most of it.
Report anxious December 8, 2016 3:47 PM GMT
Group L looks very open villareal v steaua bucherest  and osmanlispor v fc Zurich  all 4 still have chance
Report Coachbuster December 8, 2016 4:03 PM GMT
a few 4pm kick offs today
Report n88uk December 8, 2016 4:18 PM GMT

Dec 8, 2016 -- 8:49AM, bigmo wrote:


Teams needing to win CJ70 ARE....AZStandardBragaFeyenoordAustria ViennaMaccabiDundalk draw might do itAstra can be pipped by CeltaSaints need a draw as Hapoel do but Hapoel need a score draw.That's most of it.


When we say need to win, we're saying need to win to guarantee qualification?

Because Standard and Braga don't need to win. Both can go through even if they lose if other results go there way.

Report Coachbuster December 8, 2016 4:19 PM GMT
Villareal 1-0
Report Coachbuster December 8, 2016 4:23 PM GMT
Braga 0 - Shakta 1
Report bigmo December 8, 2016 4:24 PM GMT
I would guess the clue is if other results go their way. If they don't they need to win
Report Coachbuster December 8, 2016 4:24 PM GMT
thought the game was a Baga' Shykt until then
Report Coachbuster December 8, 2016 4:47 PM GMT
goalfest at Braga
Report anxious December 8, 2016 4:50 PM GMT
Looks good for Villareal if they win they are through Zurich have to go for it now they need to win if not they are out
Report bigmo December 8, 2016 5:03 PM GMT
Good spot anxious. Had a small interest in a goal in the Zurich game.
Report morpteh mackem December 8, 2016 5:12 PM GMT
villareal 1-1
Report Coachbuster December 8, 2016 5:14 PM GMT
wasn't expecting that
Report Coachbuster December 8, 2016 5:17 PM GMT
anyone remember Steaua's rivals  universitatea craiova - used to play in the old UEFA cup -always kicked off at 2pm  Grin
Report anxious December 8, 2016 5:17 PM GMT
oops 1-1 now Villareal
Report Coachbuster December 8, 2016 5:17 PM GMT
lively old crowd at their games
Report anxious December 8, 2016 5:18 PM GMT
Were Steaua the original army club I think
Report Coachbuster December 8, 2016 5:19 PM GMT
believe so anxious
Report anxious December 8, 2016 5:20 PM GMT
Yeah I think they were but at the moment with this score they are still on their way out
Report Coachbuster December 8, 2016 5:20 PM GMT
Clubul Sportiv al Armatei Steaua – Army Sports Club Steaua
Report anxious December 8, 2016 5:20 PM GMT
Be another goal in this I think
Report Coachbuster December 8, 2016 5:22 PM GMT
those east european games always cracked me up  - about 500 members of the army patrolling the game - strange kick off times - firecrackers .

decent tems then before many of their stars moved to the bigger leagues
Report anxious December 8, 2016 5:22 PM GMT
1-3 Shaktar now
Report anxious December 8, 2016 5:22 PM GMT
oh yes some great players
Report Coachbuster December 8, 2016 5:22 PM GMT
Fiona and Tina  1 up at Teabag
Report Coachbuster December 8, 2016 5:24 PM GMT
shaktah running riot
Report grant8064 December 8, 2016 5:25 PM GMT
Gone for a goal in the Zurich game...lively enough
Report anxious December 8, 2016 5:28 PM GMT
I think Red star Belgrade v dynamo Zagreb nearly started the Balkan war in 92
Report grant8064 December 8, 2016 5:32 PM GMT

Dec 8, 2016 -- 11:25AM, grant8064 wrote:


Gone for a goal in the Zurich game...lively enough


Boom!

Report Coachbuster December 8, 2016 5:34 PM GMT
all going on at Quabag
Report GLASGOWCALLING December 8, 2016 5:35 PM GMT
puell seems to be taking the comp more seriously than some, saints are not in the best of form but i still cannot see hapoel getting a win.

creating lots of chances but just need a proper centre forward, shane long blows hot and cold, and whilst charlie austin does his best

his better days are gone, after long consideration its a LAY of HAPOEL for me.  good luck.  Happy
Report Coachbuster December 8, 2016 5:35 PM GMT
those osman boys have got the goal at last
Report morpteh mackem December 8, 2016 5:36 PM GMT
red card steau
Report morpteh mackem December 8, 2016 5:45 PM GMT
villareal 2-1 good goal
Report macca18 December 8, 2016 5:54 PM GMT
BOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Gent!!!!!

5th minute of injury time!!!
Report Coachbuster December 8, 2016 5:54 PM GMT
Gent got me out of jail too
Report Coachbuster December 8, 2016 5:55 PM GMT
anxious ShockedLaugh
Report anxious December 8, 2016 5:56 PM GMT
Nice one
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