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bigmo
08 Dec 16 13:23
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Good piece in the Football Outlook this week

Fate of teams who went into Europa league group games needing to win.

2012-13

2W 1D 3L  33%

2013-14

3W 1D 3L  43%

2014-15

3W 1D 8L   25%

2015-16

3W 3D 5L   27%

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By:
CJ70
When: 08 Dec 16 13:51
They should have further broke that down into teams needing to win vs teams with nothing to play for. I don't have the data sets used but I'm guessing there are number of fixtures included where both teams need to win which distorts the figures from anything meaningful.

Perhaps they outlined their methodology and that issue in the write up?
By:
bigmo
When: 08 Dec 16 14:49
Teams needing to win CJ70 ARE....


AZ
Standard
Braga
Feyenoord
Austria Vienna
Maccabi
Dundalk draw might do it
Astra can be pipped by Celta

Saints need a draw as Hapoel do but Hapoel need a score draw.

That's most of it.
By:
anxious
When: 08 Dec 16 15:47
Group L looks very open villareal v steaua bucherest  and osmanlispor v fc Zurich  all 4 still have chance
By:
Coachbuster
When: 08 Dec 16 16:03
a few 4pm kick offs today
By:
n88uk
When: 08 Dec 16 16:18

Dec 8, 2016 -- 2:49PM, bigmo wrote:


Teams needing to win CJ70 ARE....AZStandardBragaFeyenoordAustria ViennaMaccabiDundalk draw might do itAstra can be pipped by CeltaSaints need a draw as Hapoel do but Hapoel need a score draw.That's most of it.


When we say need to win, we're saying need to win to guarantee qualification?

Because Standard and Braga don't need to win. Both can go through even if they lose if other results go there way.

By:
Coachbuster
When: 08 Dec 16 16:19
Villareal 1-0
By:
Coachbuster
When: 08 Dec 16 16:23
Braga 0 - Shakta 1
By:
bigmo
When: 08 Dec 16 16:24
I would guess the clue is if other results go their way. If they don't they need to win
By:
Coachbuster
When: 08 Dec 16 16:24
thought the game was a Baga' Shykt until then
By:
Coachbuster
When: 08 Dec 16 16:47
goalfest at Braga
By:
anxious
When: 08 Dec 16 16:50
Looks good for Villareal if they win they are through Zurich have to go for it now they need to win if not they are out
By:
bigmo
When: 08 Dec 16 17:03
Good spot anxious. Had a small interest in a goal in the Zurich game.
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 08 Dec 16 17:12
villareal 1-1
By:
Coachbuster
When: 08 Dec 16 17:14
wasn't expecting that
By:
Coachbuster
When: 08 Dec 16 17:17
anyone remember Steaua's rivals  universitatea craiova - used to play in the old UEFA cup -always kicked off at 2pm  Grin
By:
anxious
When: 08 Dec 16 17:17
oops 1-1 now Villareal
By:
Coachbuster
When: 08 Dec 16 17:17
lively old crowd at their games
By:
anxious
When: 08 Dec 16 17:18
Were Steaua the original army club I think
By:
Coachbuster
When: 08 Dec 16 17:19
believe so anxious
By:
anxious
When: 08 Dec 16 17:20
Yeah I think they were but at the moment with this score they are still on their way out
By:
Coachbuster
When: 08 Dec 16 17:20
Clubul Sportiv al Armatei Steaua – Army Sports Club Steaua
By:
anxious
When: 08 Dec 16 17:20
Be another goal in this I think
By:
Coachbuster
When: 08 Dec 16 17:22
those east european games always cracked me up  - about 500 members of the army patrolling the game - strange kick off times - firecrackers .

decent tems then before many of their stars moved to the bigger leagues
By:
anxious
When: 08 Dec 16 17:22
1-3 Shaktar now
By:
anxious
When: 08 Dec 16 17:22
oh yes some great players
By:
Coachbuster
When: 08 Dec 16 17:22
Fiona and Tina  1 up at Teabag
By:
Coachbuster
When: 08 Dec 16 17:24
shaktah running riot
By:
grant8064
When: 08 Dec 16 17:25
Gone for a goal in the Zurich game...lively enough
By:
anxious
When: 08 Dec 16 17:28
I think Red star Belgrade v dynamo Zagreb nearly started the Balkan war in 92
By:
grant8064
When: 08 Dec 16 17:32

Dec 8, 2016 -- 5:25PM, grant8064 wrote:


Gone for a goal in the Zurich game...lively enough


Boom!

By:
Coachbuster
When: 08 Dec 16 17:34
all going on at Quabag
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 08 Dec 16 17:35
puell seems to be taking the comp more seriously than some, saints are not in the best of form but i still cannot see hapoel getting a win.

creating lots of chances but just need a proper centre forward, shane long blows hot and cold, and whilst charlie austin does his best

his better days are gone, after long consideration its a LAY of HAPOEL for me.  good luck.  Happy
By:
Coachbuster
When: 08 Dec 16 17:35
those osman boys have got the goal at last
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 08 Dec 16 17:36
red card steau
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 08 Dec 16 17:45
villareal 2-1 good goal
By:
macca18
When: 08 Dec 16 17:54
BOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Gent!!!!!

5th minute of injury time!!!
By:
Coachbuster
When: 08 Dec 16 17:54
Gent got me out of jail too
By:
Coachbuster
When: 08 Dec 16 17:55
anxious ShockedLaugh
By:
anxious
When: 08 Dec 16 17:56
Nice one
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