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WW lost his job as chairman and they appointed there Scottish regional manager to the position
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Yes stewarty. M H (Peter) Easterby and always ridden by the owner Mr A J Wilson. It won the Gold Cup and was a great favourite of mine. Easterby trained some magnificent jumpers during that period, with Night Nurse being the best.
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I've never played them mac. Having said that on the odd occassion I'll risk a few bob in the casino. (blackjack)
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On the machines that is
Bookies have lot's of characters or did have anyway.Losing businesses and marriages some of them and ending up in loony bins |
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stewarty b 22 Sep 16 01:12 Joined: 02 Aug 02 | Topic/replies: 10,306 | Blogger: stewarty b's blog The thing with these machines is that you have no opinion whatsoever. If I back a horse at 10/11 I have studied and came up with an opinion. Win or lose it's down to me whether I'm right or wrong. No choice with the machines. Rate reply: | report block user if you know the system though ![]() ![]() |
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Those were the days mac with Monksfield and Sea Pigeon.
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Actually Little Owl was a chaser, my mistake.
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There was a con in the early 60s pre the bookies when it was postal betting only.
Company opened an office in Edinburgh and took fortunes on the ante-post markets. Went best prices and fecked off with the lot when the first event took place. |
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The Golden Era stewarty. Birds Nest, Tree Tangle, Night Nurse, Lanzarote, Comedy Of Errors, Bula, Persian War, Dramatist, great days.
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All these horse before my time
late 70s-80s? |
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Early 70s Chaser.
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akabula 22 Sep 16 01:23 Joined: 13 Mar 08 | Topic/replies: 21,751 | Blogger: akabula's blog There was a con in the early 60s pre the bookies when it was postal betting only. Company opened an office in Edinburgh and took fortunes on the ante-post markets. Went best prices and fecked off with the lot when the first event took place. The old cons are classics |
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Its Sea Pigeon that rang a bell for some reason
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Persian War was the late 60s I believe ridden by Jimmy Uttley. A beast of a horse.
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I'm sure McCririck mentioned that racecard con in his book chaser.
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The days of the betting Coup are sadly gone nowadays with all these computers and wall to wall racing on tv. I used to bet the winners in Ireland on a Saturday after my cousin phoned me the result straight from the track.
Indie bookies would put the line to the side and never got the results until Monday in the Sporting Life. Always threw in a couple of losers with them and never got greedy and never got sussed out ![]() ![]() |
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Just checked it won the champion hurdle twice that's probably why it rang a bell as the champion hurdle is probably my favourite race.
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I will share a better con than that one night chaps, carried out by my late father believe it or not. It's a long story and as I only type with one finger I will open a nice bottle of Peroni and enjoy as It would take me too long to type.
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Dondieu was another mac
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AKA he probably would have im trying to find it
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Dickinson had some brilliant horses Aka if I say so myself, hmm
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Dramatist I may be wrong mac but didn't Fulke Walwyn train that beast?
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And Bula too, another great from the period.
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themightymac 22 Sep 16 01:30 Joined: 05 Apr 02 | Topic/replies: 19,542 | Blogger: themightymac's blog The days of the betting Coup are sadly gone nowadays with all these computers and wall to wall racing on tv. I used to bet the winners in Ireland on a Saturday after my cousin phoned me the result straight from the track. Laugh Indie bookies would put the line to the side and never got the results until Monday in the Sporting Life. Laugh Always threw in a couple of losers with them and never got greedy and never got sussed out LaughLaugh I was told about people betting winners i was never on one though as missed it , also people backing dogs half way round the track etc |
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Yes, spot on stewarty. Was owned by Basil Twaites and usually ridden by Bill Smith.
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stewarty b 22 Sep 16 01:32 Joined: 02 Aug 02 | Topic/replies: 10,312 | Blogger: stewarty b's blog I will share a better con than that one night chaps, carried out by my late father believe it or not. It's a long story and as I only type with one finger I will open a nice bottle of Peroni and enjoy as It would take me too long to type. You better not drop any your dad's old timer mates in the sh1t ![]() |
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We look forward to reading about it stewarty
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I thought Bula was trained by Fred Winter?
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Back to Dickinsons. Silver Buck, Gay Spartan, Bregawn, Broncho II, Captain John and of course me.
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Yes he was stewarty, I just went off track having missed him earlier and aka taking his username from Bula.
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The Persian War story is a great read. Only the greats have books entirely about them written.
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mac, you should have added that Dickinson had the first five home in the Gold Cup.
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Bregawn being one, Silver Buck?, the others I would need to google.
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The best con was by Cyril Stein and exposed by John Banks (I think)
You remember that controversy mac? |
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must be a good few documentaries or films on youtube about them cons
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I can`t remember that aka. I remember they were at loggerheads in the 70s with Banks ridiculing Ladbrokes for refusing bets. He tried to name a horse Greenwich Mean Stein but was refused permission, so called it Adorable Cyril instead.
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Brian Curley pulled off one of the biggest gambles ever. He knew his horse was going to win in Ireland and backed it at fancy prices with a load of books. There was only one pnone box at the course and when the bookies reps tried to hedge by phone he employed a man to 'capture' the phone saying his mother was seriously ill in hospital. The horse duly obliged at a fancy price and the on course books were fleeced because they couldn't hedge.
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Other 3 stewarty were Wayward Lad, Captain John and Ashley House.
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Cyril was laddies chairman.
Would have a bet at the track and settle up at the end of the day with the bookies. If having a bad day would tell a bookie he'd lost with they were company bets. One day as he walked away from Banks stand after placing a bet Banks shouted after him. Yours or the companies Cyril. |
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Barneys book is a great read Stew.
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