Yannick Bolasie £28m

Crazy season

Thank the new Sky deal for this craziness.

Just glad I stopped subscribing years ago so as to not subsidise this nonsense.

Great signing imo - purely on the fact my mob get a good chunk from the selling on clause

You'd rather have him in your side than Sterling though?

surprised how few goals he has scored

22m up front is a fine deal for a player who scares defences whether he is on his game of not. You find very few wingers who are consistently on their game, its the nature of the position.

Niasse who can't kick a ball cost 13.5m so you'll find most Evertonians happy with the deal.

Terrible value... At least £10m too much, even in today's crazy market imo.

Mind you, if you change it to Bolasie and £20m for John Stones, it doesn't sound quite so bad.

Using one of Evertons worst ever buys as a comparison to make it look cheap mate

Saw him give one of the best displays at Goodison two years ago. Saw him at Palace twice against other opposition and he was dreadful.

From an over-arching view we have -£10m net spend and undoubtable improved the squad. Just another 4 to go and us fans will be happy

Bill will be delighted you're back.
Transfer business just been awaiting your nod, according to my man on merseyside.

FOYDC

Sissoko. Thoughts?

Moshi awaiting his co-signatory on the chequebook, I heard.

My thoughts on Sissoko?  How long you got?

Well our hat is in the ring but I fear he wants elsewhere.

Would happily swap him for Ross with no cash changing hands - given your feelings on him, you'll see where I'm coming from.

As I understand it, his Agents have been busy fabricating stories fabricating Madrid, Man U, Arsenal interest etc, in order to keep his profile high.  Good article on the Chronicle website tonight about the reality of the situation, i.e. It is likely he needs to realise that level of club doesn't fancy him.

Only West Brom shown any firm interest.  Palace rumoured and now Everton.  That's the level he's at, if that, for me.

The hope would be that someone, somewhere, gets an injury / is desperate enough to pay the fee.

Little rumour i have heard is we have offered what we believe is 'market rate' and its been approved with Galloway going the other way.

All seems a little obscure to me. We shall see.

Hopefully market rate is in line with the market rate on Yannick......
Another non-scoring, non-creating, attacking midfielder.

I'd heard Timothy last week re BG.  But, he hasn't resumed training yet, so would be surprised at that.

As quick as lighting with a trick or two, best name in the prem. About the right price considering age and potential.

What potential. He's 27.

Was genuinely surprised when I saw that today. Thought he was 24 or 25.

Of all the crazy fees flying about, this is literally one of the worst ever.

Great business for Palace, picking Andros up for £13m and selling Bolasie for double that.

Certainly makes Sadio Mane deal look like value.

Peak age is 28-32

Ian Wright didn't join Arsenal till his 28 and played at Highury till he was 35, do you want me relay his record when surrounded by better players and under a better manager?

Different type of player but still relevant.

I thought Bolasie looked unplayable a few times season before last and wondered why he wasn't at a bigger club. Recall him destroying Liverpool in his one game.

Last season seems disappointing but wasn't he injured for about 3 months which coincided with  Palace's awful run ?

He played in every month, apart from January.
I think (and there may be some bias here) that Palace fell apart after Xmas, much like AP's Newcastle used to do.
Can't remember which way around it is, but AP's Palace have lost more / won less games than any other team in 2016.
That's some going with the dross kicking around - including the dross I follow.

well they've only won about 2 in the league since xmas so i guess it's the latter or maybe even both

saw him play for barnet and no better than anyone else--crazy dosh!

Bolasie, Gueye, Williams all for Stones = Very good business for Everton

If koeman gets end product out of him it might be money well spent. He obviously thinks he can. Every PL club pays a premium now cos of the extra money. Everyone knows they have it. Any club will jack the price up by 5m if selling to a PL club and they'll get it. It's probably worse again when buying from another PL club cos none of them need the money

You can get far better value abroad. If Bolasie was playing in Spain he probably be worth like £5m. Man Utd bought Mkhitaryan for around the same price as this.

V surprising signing - wasnt the point of getting Steve Walsh from Leicester to pick up a few gems from overseas? - Bolasie will have to score nearly 10 a season for 3/4 years to represent value at that price, and there's long odds on him doing that

The supporters seem to worry more about value than the clubs do.

If you've got limitless funds then it doesn't really matter. Clubs like Everton and Liverpool can only attract players of a certain level and Bolasie is at that level. We might have £200 million to spend but if no one who's any good will come, then we end up with the likes of him.

Brenda $punked away £100 million when Suarez went and there's every chance we'll do the same with the Stones money.

There is no way Everton couldn't get a better player than Bolasie from abroad for cheaper, it's just clubs have become lazy and scouting is poor in the Premier League.

And you say Bolasie is of that level, what level are Everton aspiring to be? A bottom half Premier League side?

Everton arent being lazy, pretty obvious Koeman needs tried and tested players to start with given the limitations of our squad. £25m is too much but hey thats the game now

I think Bolasie has Top 4 level skill . He has embarrassed and destroyed defenders in the way only the very best wingers can.

No way is he a mid table player in terms of ability. Actually if he was playing for Celta Vigo or someone his highlight reel might well be held up as an example of why La Liga is better.

I also wonder whether a manger as unsophisticated as Pardew has been getting the best out of him.

Whether he produces is often enough is the thing.

He will produce more than what we have now , and hopefully lift Leighton B.

Niasse who can't kick a ball cost 13.5m so you'll find most Evertonians happy with the deal.


Allegedly..

Looks like a ****g terrible deal in comparison to the mane signing. 27 years old, 13 goals in 3-4 seasons

n88uk

And you say Bolasie is of that level, what level are Everton aspiring to be? A bottom half Premier League side?

Of course we don't aspire to be a bottom half team but it's hard for clubs like Everton and Liverpool to attract players who will get you into the top 6.

When you think of some of the players Liverpool signed in the last few years it shows how easy it is to fall into the Bolassie trap.

Borini, Alberto, Aspas, Ilori, Lambert, Markovic, Moreno, Balotelli and Benteke cost a total of £100M and with one exception, unless you were a Liverpool fan you wouldn't know what's happened to them.

They spent another £150M on Lallana, Firmino, Sakho, Sturridge, Coutinho, Mignolet, Can, Lovren, Origi & Clyne and finished EIGHTH last season.

Getting value is not as easy as it seems.

Aug 16, 2016 -- 12:18AM, tobermory wrote:

I think Bolasie has Top 4 level skill . He has embarrassed and destroyed defenders in the way only the very best wingers can.No way is he a mid table player in terms of ability. Actually if he was playing for Celta Vigo or someone his highlight reel might well be held up as an example of why La Liga is better.I also wonder whether a manger as unsophisticated as Pardew has been getting the best out of him.Whether he produces is often enough is the thing.

This is a ridiculous overhype on a guy whose only real skill is the ability to run with the ball, something the British always overhype.

There will always be the odd "wonder goal" for that style of player because the 1 in 50 times he runs with the ball and comes up with a goal at the end of it it will look world class, until you realise he does that like once a season.

As bad as many Liverpool signings were, some of those you put in the bad pile weren't as bad as this.

Benteke, not really good enough for a top, top team, and especially the way Klopp is trying to play, but isn't actually that bad, he will go back to looking very good again if he goes Crystal Palace.

Most the other terrible buys were at least relatively cheap bar Carroll. There was a lot of them being the bigger problem.

You're never going to get any value buying from other Premier League teams, because no Premier League team has any pressure to sell so can just demand a top price for all their players. And the whole idea of "proven in the Premier League" is overrated anyway, Liverpool bought half their flops from other Premier League clubs.

Miss W... not quite sure why you are lumping Liverpool and Everton together tbh.... One club has fared significantly better than the other for a significant period of time. And whilst I understand your point, I don't think the two are comparable in terms of their pull.

CCM

I'm comparing the two clubs because Liverpool have spent very heavily over the past few years and achieved relatively little - is it just a League Cup in the last 10 seasons?

Bolassie is an example of Everton spending heavily and getting poor value as you correctly pointed out earlier in the thread - and you would know!

I've lost count of the number and type of players that both clubs have been linked with but can very rarely persuade to join. Like it or not we both have to make do with second or third tier performers.

The main difference is that we have accepted our place in the pecking order whereas many Liverpool fans (present company excepted, of course) are still delusional.

Touché!

I'd still like to think we are getting players a tier above Everton, but time will tell.

There will always be the odd "wonder goal" for that style of player because the 1 in 50 times he runs with the ball and comes up with a goal at the end of it it will look world class

Sounds just like Johnny 'Fatboy' Barnes..

You can still go places on a budget, just Liverpool spent a lot of that money very poorly under Dalglish and Rodgers. I mean Liverpool almost went to the title and likely would have if the supporting cast around Suarez, especially defensively had been a little better.

But tbh nearly all the top Premier League teams are guilty of wasting money in recent times, it's a major factor why the teams haven't performed to the level they should have in Europe relative to the amount of money they are spending (the other main factor being weak tactically, which you'd expect to change with the level of managers that have arrived in the Premier League in the past year).

Aug 15, 2016 -- 9:35PM, mafeking wrote:

well they've only won about 2 in the league since xmas so i guess it's the latter or maybe even both

I think it was the latter, Mafe.
Pardew has effectively won the same amount of games in 2016 as Steve McLaren.
McLaren was sacked in March.
To be fair to Stevie Mac, he never had a £28m winger at his disposal.