Sam Allardyce

WTF HAS HE WON

ENGLAND EMPLOYING A MAN WHO FINISED 17TH

THAT'S HOW LOW ENGLAND HAVE TO GO

Allardyce has no chance of getting England job.

Route one football might get us somewhere
we all know Andy Carroll type was needed in France
Que BIG SAM

Jul 12, 2016 -- 11:09PM, themightymac wrote:

Allardyce has no chance of getting England job.

Last price matched 1.65

I know.

Unless he's got Messi lined up
Why the hell would he fly
Half way rd the world back to England from oz.
Interview for England surly merts it

special buffet rates at Indian

fattiewhitey he flew from austria not australia

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That puts a diffent spin on it than

You'll be hoping Sam doesn't get the England job morpteh.

The last thing Sunderland want is to be scratching around for a new manager a few weeks before the season starts, they need to be focussing on the transfer market now (both ins and outs).

BSA will sort out the defence, and then maybe we won't be leaking 2 goals to Iceland.
Portugal manager Fernando Santos age 61 had never won out till last week, just because you win cups at club level does'nt mean it follows you are going to be a great international boss.

What have the ones who have gone before him achieved? England have won nothing since '66. He can't be any worse than his predecessors!!

He can't be any worse than his predecessors!!


I'll take 1.01 he can.

He had great success at Bolton and Sterling is like Jay Jay Okocha and Rooney is like John McGinley.

All he has to do is qualify for the WC in Russia....that's success for England these days.... if we do qualify then its impossible to be worse than Hodgson and Capello.

Rooney is like John McGinley.  NAP

At least he'll have the surprise card on his side amongst the other managers in Russia because none of them would have ever heard of him.

Sams the man imo ,was gooing to have a punt but hate these markets were the outcome could already be known so cant have a punt .

He is at least English ,a Northerner ,his own man ....all things that have in the past kept him out the job but things that might now put him innit but somehow i feel the agenda ,the behind the scenes witch doctors playing with thar ouja boards will have other eye deers

He might look like a dope and sound like a dope but I think he is an intelligent man who might just be what England need.

He'll bring back that loving feeling to the national team

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0315xbv5Gk

he cant do worse but that's not to say he will do better, expect several years of mediocrity and shocking football before the country finds the ideal replacement for RH.

totally out of his depth  but whenever has that stopped the fa ?

So if not fat Sam who do people think will be the saviour of English football?.....good luck with that one cos he doesn't exist.

Reading this you would think England had been playing attractive football for years.

Eggactly

crisp77 dont mention the brilliant jay jay okocha in the same breath as jazz hands sterling not fit to lace jay jays boots

you'd think every manager after alf ramsey was a success, quite the opposite ,all have failed to different degrees.

even alf failed after 66 morp

doesnt mean it should be blueprint for the next one

of course it doesn't but way people getting knickers in a knot about allardyce is incredible, its as though we were regular finalists/winners in all major tournaments when we're are anything but.

Should be suited by the limited players he has to chose from imo.

you'd think every manager after alf ramsey was a success, quite the opposite ,all have failed to different degrees.

I wouldn't regard Venables as a failure.  I know we didn't win Euro 96 but we were going in the right direction and some of the football was great to watch.

be a good manager for england, knows how to set up up a team unlike roy

Best man for the job...
Gets the best out of mediocre players
Great organiser and inovator.
Only 5 managers have won more Manager of the Month awards
Has won league championships in two countries.
Right age and wont take any nonesense off so called superstars.

At least England wont get relegated

Andy Carroll would be the first name on the team sheet

Sam not proven as a great manager ,just a scrapper. Sacked from Newcastle not that long ago

Why is Pullis not in the reckoning ?

2008 - a bit longer than i thought 

Pulis is Welsh.

he could still  be the manager though

yes, at least then we would know it is time to give up the game.

Yes he's a scrapper.That's what England lack!

Allardyce has a proven track record at organising sides and getting the best out of players. He has a good track record of managing difficult characters.

Sam's record is better than being a scrapper - he has 4 top 8 finishes at Bolton and finished top ten at Blackburn and Westham improving both clubs from where he started. He was won promotion three times. His achievement at Sunderland was superb last season.

England in global terms are not an elite team. England are middle of the road. We haven't made the quarter finals in a long time. Since Sven we have struggled in every tournament. England needs a manager who can organise a team and get more from that team than the sum of its parts.

Allardyce is described by many as some kind of thick northerner who foams at the mouth but he is far more than that. He learnt a lot from his time in America as a player. The sports science employed at Bolton was light years ahead of other clubs at the time. He was using prozone and statistics well before most. At Bolton he employed mind gurus and motivators when others laughed at the impact they can have.

He is undoubtedly the number one English contender to manage the national team. I suspect he will do rather well - he has every where else he has been and will be more suited to managing a group of average players than a superstar continental manager.

Boris Johnson appointed foreign minister, big Sam probable England manager, this Country,s f**ked!

many of the atguments put forward for sam suggest to
me he deserves a crack at a better club side rather than
manage a national team where he has no control over
fitness and conditioning.

still , if we want an engerlish manager he is the safest
candidate, maybe one of the younger lads might be
better but they are unproven

give him a go, but i cant see it working


meanwhile there are dozens of non engerlish managers
who would do a better job

Blimey, I didn't realize that "Big" (always regarded that as patronising rather than the fondness it is supposed to reflect to those "lucky" enough to obtain that particular prefix)Sam was that great, England better move quick before Real, Barca or Bayern snap him up!!

Sam gets the job because he's English and because he's prepared to toe the line as the project is not broken!!!

Fook me, the F.A. has gone completely doolalee....I thought at least David Gill would provide some measure of sense. When this all goes t1ts up he, perhaps for the first time is going to look like a total numpty.

Oh where can England find a manager with the club track record of Chris Colman?

a'la dice

in the style of the dice = big gamble

We haven't got the players, we haven't got the managers, the foreign league rules all round in this country

It's a nonsense to say we haven't got the players. Any team with half-competent players can be organised to be a decent team. They just need the right man in charge - you can't know in advance who that man is, he just comes along. You can help yourself to some degree, but it's mostly random imo

Ivan Lendl for me

Or that Welsh guy Jones who runs the rugger team. Good thinking captain eff.

well everything else has gone pete tong so why not try a different approach - cant be any worse than has gone b4 - the post 92 footy supporters on here do make me laugh as they are spoon fed their thoughts from a London based/biased media time after time - the same media that tries to pick the team time after time
#deluded but

#justsayinglike

allardyce is far better than hodgson, that we can be certain of

There will be a few football journalists back tracking if he gets it.

The problem with Allardyce is that he likes to play with a very athletic water carrier in midfield. He always goes out and buys one if one is not available already.

The problem with international teams is that you have to work with the players you have. I think he might struggle if that type of player is not available (although the likes of Drinkwater would be his type of player and get his chance - desevedly)

The press are pure priks. That is all i will say. England will never get a good manager because it will be decided by others who have no clue. If allardyce gets it its the press again for an english manager. He is a pure disaster. Howe or Bilic. Klinsman is the one. But the press wants english. CLOWNS

Listening to the press on various stations about sam pure and utter priks. Serious idiots. If he gets the job english fa are mugs. Hogasarus was bad and he is the same. Just give it to someone who can do the job. SIMPLE.

I imagine he will want to get his legal action against the BBC out of the way. When is it happening by the way?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-406459/Allardyce-planning-sue-BBC-FA-keeps-lid-bungs-evidence.html

According to my schedule, the case will be heard on the same day as George Osborne's Emergency Budget

The latest contender to throw his ring in the hat has submitted an application video to the FA.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkq4Agl3yo8

You could bring Sir Alex out of retirement to put alongside Mourinho and Guardiola and we still wouldn't win a major tournament. The reason being is that the players we produce aren't good enough.

I hope he gets the job....What i dont want to see is some Foreign  Manager in charge....No buts he has got to be British.

Got to be English,have a sense of humour,a leader,good fun in interviews.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG07abIWFfU

holywell you speak plenty sense my friend - as does Chris "i cant say pelanty" right Waddle - these academies have stunted the growth of our young players who are 2boxed off" from an early age and any "individual talent they do have is quickly knocked out of em too soon  - long gone are the days you cud get a kid from Dunston doing remarkable things wiv a football cos its all just a game of chess these days - sad but true and you can count on one hand how many home grown talents go abroad to make a living and yet flip the coin the other way..... as all these guys come to make a living in "hardest league in the world"

Im old school - could see Linneker was a player when he was at Leicester tearing the arse out of the toon at same sort of age as your youngin is doing now but neva got a kick for England till he went to Spurs - Beardsley neva got a kick for England till Wilkins got sent off and Robson got injured - nowt changes - Wiltshere and Henderson shudnt hav been within a country mile of that midfield this Euros yet they left Drinwater at home and lad from West Ham neva even got a sniff .

Its all about ESTABLISHMENT  mate just like Cloughy shuda got the gig back in the day

Sakho refuses to go on West Ham's preseason tour.  I wonder if the future England boss has had a word in his ear.
The 2 seem to have an unhealthy relationship.  I remember Sakho being "too injured" to represent his country at the ACN but made a quick recovery to play for West Ham in the FA cup.

The relationship between Bilic and Sakho is the one you should concentrate on if you really care.

I don't think Carroll is a top 4 striker.
Sakho and Valencia formed a decent partnership under Sam.
Don't think Sakho is blameless but the bias,IMO,in favour of Carroll by super Slav I find strange.
Super Slav's reliance and/or trust in Carroll will be his eventual downfall IMO.

Carroll offers something totally different. His best contributions (apart from the hattrick against Arsenal) came off the bench.

It's called plan B, a concept lost on the previous England manager.

The problem the FA will have if they appoint Sam is ticket sales..

Play the matches up north. They'll sell out every time {bar St.James' park}. 10 years too late for Allardyce, though still the best man for the job if like me you would insist on an Englishman leading the national team.

The days of defenders filling their pants and running around squealing with their hands in the air as long/diagonal balls rain into the box towards a "big man" are long gone.

Iceland seem to do pretty well with it just 2 weeks ago in the biggest competition in Europe.

Against the English defenders...

In most cases that is true, DIE LINKE. But not in Carroll's - he's a monster, no defenders can handle him.

Don't get this vibe of  'the manager doesn't matter because the players aren't good enough'

Not good enough to do what ? Get past the Last 16 ? Do people think there a dozen countries in Europe with better players than England ?

Lets see .... Spain,Germany,France obviously and then  erm.... Italy have much better keeper/defenders but what else .

Would Spurs Fans have been fine with selling Harry Kane and replacing him with Pelle . Or swapping Dele Ali with Nani.

England's natural level should at least be making the Quarters and losing to a strong team with a decent performance , and making the Semis at least 1 tournament in 3 . And with a bit of luck over 7 or 8 tournaments actually making a Final or winning something.

Even if you argue there are not 3 , but 5 or 6 nations , who typically have better players overall than England , that still doesn't explain 20 years without a Semi Final . Since Euro 96 TWELVE  different European Nations have made the Semi Finals of a World Cup or Euros .Portugal have reached 4 semis in that time despite , IMO , never at any point having a stronger starting 11 than England (arguably in 2000 they did) .

England fail again and again because in tournaments they play like the weight of the world is on their shoulders . They have a negative mindset and fear of defeat which becomes self fulfilling . This is always a failure of the manager as it his job to psychologically prepare the team .

A manager whose approach is all about defensive drills and maybe nicking a goal with a header from a set piece is not going to transform this negative loser mentality.

Rumour on the main Sunderland message board that it'll be all out in the open tomorrow...