Scotland Dies Laughing

I have a feeling that the Brexit vote will be viewed as a similar error by future historians as England becomes a pitiable backwater in world and european affairs..


I remember the disaster we were set for when we didn't join the Euro...

How many backwaters have a permanent seat on the UN security council?

didnt see many Scottish tipping Iceland to win pre-match...

.... or anyone else, for that matter

Think you will find the USA has 2 seats on the security council
One for the pentagon
and one for their european representative.
Happens to be based in london at the mo.
Edinburgh b4 long Dirk me old china plate

As for being a pitiable backwater, what do you think Scotland is? a Major European power?

How strong do you think your hand is without the rest of the UK to back you when you apply to join the EU? Stronger than the UK's whilst leaving it? - I don't think so.

Be sure that where Sturgeon is taking you is somewhere you want to go, it's ok hating England which is your national pastime, but you won't be able to blame us when you've got the Euro and stuck inside the EU and powerless.


Stay or go, I don't care, just stop whining when things don't go your way after a democratic process. I wonder what else Sturgeon will choose to ignore once you're 'free' of nasty old England?

Elections?

What's next? a future election that doesn't go the SNP's way, but Glasgow for example voted strongly SNP so it's now undemocratic and void - does she ask for a re-run or threaten to pull Glasgow out of Scotland?


What do you think about a leader who consistently just ignores democracy?

Think you will find the USA has 2 seats on the security council
One for the pentagon
and one for their european representative.
Happens to be based in london at the mo.
Edinburgh b4 long Dirk me old china plate


Both factually incorrect and a fantasy...





Your future is much more likely a seat at the poor table begging for handouts along with Greece and Spain etc


Enjoy it Nova Darien!

As i am currently inhabited in the UK Dirky
I do hope you are incorrect in that last statement of yours about greece and spain
tho i suspect you may be right

appformat
.... or anyone else, for that matter Love
Tipped them on the forum, and backed.

As i am currently inhabited in the UK Dirky
I do hope you are incorrect in that last statement of yours about greece and spain
tho i suspect you may be right



Not for much longer if your non-democratic Iron Lady 2 gets her way and then it'll be straight to EU handouts queue.

Quick reminder of how the EU reacts to referenda.

Eight since 2002.


Two were accepted as they were voting to join the Euro, Denmark and Sweden. The other six referenda that didn't go the EU's way were either ignored by the EU, or the country was made to vote again when the EU got the result it wanted.

So you can by all means have a referendum, but only the EU can win.


Krankie will fit right in in Brusells!

Reading this thread it has to be concluded that English arrogance is only exceeded by ignorance.

Reading this thread it has to be concluded that English arrogance is only exceeded by ignorance.


Also to be concluded that without England to hate, Scotland would have no purpose.


Enjoy the Euro!

Wouldn't a more appropriate nom de plume DD be DickJiggler it would keep you occupied between writing more of your abject nonsense.

Theparp I would like Scotland to stay within the UK but the sturgeon has set its heart on Freedom so be it . Time for an English referendum join the euro which will eventually collapse and get on with it

Fyi dirky
the part of the uk that is south of hadrians wall
tho one does like to keep ones options open
would it turn you on if i said i was a romanian migrant claiming the rock n roll in my 5 bedroom council house for my extended family?
go on
you'd love that would you no?

Abject nonsense you haven't rebutted I've noticed...


But keep firing out insults if it makes you feel better, I'll stick to the facts.

Telepathic, but can't read - an odd mix.

We don't hate the English ......we just pity you.......you are like wolves howling at the moon......all noise.

Quite a bit of England north of Hadrians wall and you are gross

We don't hate the English ......we just pity you.......you are like wolves howling at the moon......all noise.


It's your national past time and it always has been, shame you've never had anything to shout about yourselves. Your entire existence is predicated on hating England.

Why don't you have the balls to feck off?

The referendum said it all, nothing but pure loathing and hatred for England, but absolutely no sack whatsoever when we handed you freedom on  plate because deep down you know you're absolutely nothing without England to both loathe and yet cling to.


Do you think the Scots will grow a pair next time?

.you are like wolves howling at the moon......all noise.


As opposed to the Scots howling at the moon about FRRRRREEEEEEDDDOOOOOMMMM!!!!! for hundreds of years and then s******g themselves when push came to shove.


If anyone is 'all noise' it's the Scots.

I said IGNORANCE....and you have just confirmed it by your own reply.Now go and howl at the moon,you will soon feel better and regain your sense of superiority......to bad its an illusion you all suffer from.

I said IGNORANCE....and you have just confirmed it by your own reply.Now go and howl at the moon,you will soon feel better and regain your sense of superiority......to bad its an illusion you all suffer from.



Run along, you've clearly got nothing to say, and no points to make. Go back to seething about England.


Another one who doesn't like the facts, but does hate England.

Now get back to DickJigling.... your brain cell is over heating and I have better things to do.

England??? what the f... is England.

You should know with your name

Now get back to DickJigling.... your brain cell is over heating and I have better things to do.


No danger of you over-heating a brain cell. At least you have enough sense to quit while you're behind though.

England??? what the f... is England.


I thought you'd gone pal?


Oh I get it, you're drunk again.

Not sure why it's relevant what scotland are doing or not doing.

Oh i do apologise Dirky
I thought we were having such a fun time I didnt realise that your delusions about Nicola Sturgeon were supposed to be reasoned political points
All i can gather is you seem to think that the snp calling for another referendum on the back of the material change of the uk leaving the eu is somehow anti democratic.
When the snp is the ruling party in hollyrood
They returned 49 mps out of 51 or whatever it is to westminster
When the best part of two thirds of scottish people voted to remain in the eu in the brexit vote
Now I am no sherlock holmes but I detect that is a good enough reason to call for a vote for scotland to leave the uk
And in no way anti democratic.

I thought you'd got better things to do?

Clearly not.


What delusions? that's she's ignored democracy twice? Do you think she'll abide the next one, or claim some geographic excuse if she loses?


Please call another one then if you think it is democratic and feel free to feck off this time, anything to shut you up. The EU is going to eat you alive!

What good would anyone get out of England and Scotland dividing been together for many years Wallace dead Edward dead ffs get the chips off your shoulders wake up and smell the coffee we are the same and by the way come on Wales keep it up

What good would anyone get out of England and Scotland dividing been together for many years Wallace dead Edward dead ffs get the chips off your shoulders wake up and smell the coffee we are the same and by the way come on Wales keep it up


They can't get the chips off their shoulders though, that's the problem. We gave the Scots a chance to fulfil their dreams and they chose to stay.

I'm not sure how much more reasonable we're supposed to be with the Scots. They hate us always have and always will.

Many good friends in Scotland the sturgeon is a bitter twisted woman not bothered about the future of Scotland or England or any of Britain only one agenda and no clue after that

If Scotland get 'Freedom' - will you repay  the English ?
After all- the price for 1707 Act of Union was London bailing out Edinburgh whose populace was bankrupted by the failed adventure into North America

With 300 years interest- shall we settle on £1trillion?

Many good friends in Scotland the sturgeon is a bitter twisted woman not bothered about the future of Scotland or England or any of Britain only one agenda and no clue after that


100% correct. She'll be alright whatever happens. When they've left and they're broke inside the EU with a disastrous currency, she'll be in her Ivory Tower with Salmond eulogising about Scottish freedom while the peasantry pick up the pieces.

It's funny but the greatest benefit of currently being in the EU as the UK is that we kept our currency, Sturgeon wants to throw the greatest advantage away and then re-join gagged and bound to the Euro.

I'll tell you something else as well, they won't give a f**k what's she's got to say in Brussels, there will be no political opportunism within the EU, she'll be told what's happening and she'll lump it.


Her comeuppance is in the post, it is only a matter of time...

Think she has already had her comeuppance must be difficult to function being as bitter as she is

Dirk seems to be obsessed with the currency issue. There are plenty of countries in the EU that are not in the Eurozone. Personally, I couldn't give a hoot what currency an independent Scotland used and as they are already in the EU, the choice is theirs.

Take the euro then and just get on with it

Dirk seems to be obsessed with the currency issue. There are plenty of countries in the EU that are not in the Eurozone. Personally, I couldn't give a hoot what currency an independent Scotland used and as they are already in the EU, the choice is theirs.


You'll give a hoot when you've got the Euro. You won't have sterling.

What difference will it make to me? Not a bit.

What difference will it make to me? Not a bit.


Then why the tears?

Well that's ok then I'm alright jack

What tears? I don't follow you.

What tears? I don't follow you.


Your tears about currency, you seem to be unconcerned about it, but then claim the Scots can choose any currency they like, which they won't.

Only trying to be helpful by introducing some facts. An independent Scotland would simply remain an EU member as they are now. As such, they can choose to retain the pound, switch to the Euro or any currency they fancy.  As I said earlier plenty of countries in the EU retain their own currency and are not in the Eurozone.

If only the EU were as helpful think the silly lassie won't find it that easy

By the way the sterling is collapsing house prices crashing and the Americans don't want to talk to us

Only trying to be helpful by introducing some facts. An independent Scotland would simply remain an EU member as they are now. As such, they can choose to retain the pound, switch to the Euro or any currency they fancy.  As I said earlier plenty of countries in the EU retain their own currency and are not in the Eurozone.
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What facts? do you think you're leaving the UK, joining the Euro afterwards and then keeping the pound?


Good luck with that.

Only trying to be helpful by introducing some facts. An independent Scotland would simply remain an EU member as they are now. As such, they can choose to retain the pound, switch to the Euro or any currency they fancy.  As I said earlier plenty of countries in the EU retain their own currency and are not in the Eurozone.


You really need to do some reading, you can't leave the UK and keep the pound. Didn't you pay any attention to the Scots ref at all?

That was one of the major issues!

Without us you have no currency!

By the way the sterling is collapsing house prices crashing and the Americans don't want to talk to us


We'll remember that next time they want us to fight some wars for them.

The Scottish people don't need anyone to fight wars for them some of the best along with the rest of the British

The Scottish people don't need anyone to fight wars for them some of the best along with the rest of the British


I was talking about the Americans, you said they did not want to talk to us. I said we'll remember that when they come calling on us to fight their wars with them, or words to that effect.

No mention of Scotland anywhere.

Dirk, I have supplied you with the currency facts. You are welcome to continue to guess away at whichever currency an independent Scotland would choose to use.

Dirk, I have supplied you with the currency facts. You are welcome to continue to guess away at whichever currency an independent Scotland would choose to use.


They're not the currency facts though, do you honestly believe you can leave the UK, but keep the pound and stay/join the EU with it?


Please tell me you don't think that.





I may as well ask I suppose, what 'choices' of currency do you think you'll have under the circumstances already outlined, just out of interest...

Meadow I discovered about 3 hrs ago that this political genius DickJiggler does not know the facts and has his own particular twisted ideas based on these wrong presumptions.His main driver is that, the Scots hate the English, and that everything in turn stems from that.
I will repeat my original comment ......no I will not bother he is not worth the energy.

Just seems a shame you made an opinion on one comment

DJ just for the ACTUAL FACTS "any country joining the EU does not need to join the Euro"

AND DONT BOTHER TRYING TO REBUT THIS "IT IS A FACT" Ya numpty.

DJ just for the ACTUAL FACTS "any country joining the EU does not need to join the Euro"

AND DONT BOTHER TRYING TO REBUT THIS "IT IS A FACT" Ya numpty.



What currency are you going to use then you fool?

Buttons?

Haggis?

Scotch Mist?

Murray Mints

Iceland Foods on Twitter
"Unexpected result in the bagging area".

much as I would love to disagree with scots hater DD, the EU has recently suggested that every member state will have to convert to the euro, but now that the germans want a referendum on leaving the EU, there probably won't be an EU if they vote to leave since germany pay even more into the EU than UK did.

much as I would love to disagree with scots hater DD, the EU has recently suggested that every member state will have to convert to the euro, but now that the germans want a referendum on leaving the EU, there probably won't be an EU if they vote to leave since germany pay even more into the EU than UK did.


Scots hater? Not me, but I thought it was time they got a taste of their own medicine. If they're not hating England, they're hating each other over Celtic/Rangers, and we've seen nothing yet on that score, wait until the new SPL season begins.

As I said, there's no pick and choose your currency in the EU.

People all around Europe are sick and tired of the centralist undemocratic EU, they just needed one country with the courage to begin the process.

Dirk, you are such an expert on currency that I am sure you will be able to answer these simple questions.

What currency do the following EU countries use?

a/ France
b/ Poland
c/ Luxembourg
d/ Ireland
e/ Denmark
f/ Romania
g/ Malta

Meadow if sturgeon wants independence do you not think it is a bit hypocritical to want sterling independence means just that as the Brussels seethers are letting the UK know

as an englishman i fully appreciate a terrific original post. great humour.

Shiekh, as far as I am aware all the countries in my question above are independent...

Dirk, you are such an expert on currency that I am sure you will be able to answer these simple questions.

What currency do the following EU countries use?

a/ France
b/ Poland
c/ Luxembourg
d/ Ireland
e/ Denmark
f/ Romania
g/ Malta


I'm still waiting for you to tell me what currency you're going to use out of the UK but in the EU.

Can you crack on a bit with this as you've had all night to come up with an answer and it's now 1:07 PM in the afternoon.

I see your lack of knowledge of currency of EU countries in my question knows no bounds.  Go on, have a guess.

Follow the sturgeon to oblivion rather the scots stayed with us mind many good friends and family we are the same man the woman is obsessed and dangerous

I see your lack of knowledge of currency of EU countries in my question knows no bounds.  Go on, have a guess.


My knowledge of EU currencies is fine pal, now tell what currency the Scots are going to use?

Follow the sturgeon to oblivion rather the scots stayed with us mind many good friends and family we are the same man the woman is obsessed and dangerous


Let them go, they seem determined to. I'm interested to see who they blame for everything in future.

Jun 28, 2016 -- 4:47PM, Meadow X1 wrote:

Only trying to be helpful by introducing some facts. An independent Scotland would simply remain an EU member as they are now. As such, they can choose to retain the pound, switch to the Euro or any currency they fancy.

Dirk, perhaps you were drunk last night and couldn't remember what I said so there it is above, just for you.

Now, are you going to try my simple EU currency quiz ?

Sadly for you, that's not true, you'll be in the Euro.

If you'd have paid attention to the Scots referendum you'd have known that time and time again you were warned over and over that you would not be keeping Sterling.

Jun 29, 2016 -- 7:25AM, DirkDiggler wrote:

Sadly for you, that's not true, you'll be in the Euro.

Your lack of knowledge of EU currencies knows no bounds.

Your lack of knowledge of EU currencies knows no bounds.


Your delusions about Scotland's realities knows no bounds. I really don't think you watched any of the Scots ref campaign, if you did you'd have known that all three major political parties ruled out Scotland keeping Sterling if they chose to leave.

The few ie Poland have their own currency if Scotland become Independent they wont

op

Moving tributes are already being placed along the Scotland-England border with many mourners opting to leave a simple bag of chips or a deep fried bunch of flowers.

Oe   And three silly smiling faces

Meadow X1
Only trying to be helpful by introducing some facts. An independent Scotland would simply remain an EU member as they are now. As such, they can choose to retain the pound, switch to the Euro or any currency they fancy.  As I said earlier plenty of countries in the EU retain their own currency and are not in the Eurozone.

1. Scotland will have to re-apply to join the EU.

2. You won't be taking the pound with you when you leave the UK.

3. You'll have the Euro.

Difficult to argue with Meadow as he's been brainwashed by the SNP cult but here goes.

Firstly Meadow Scotland aren't a member state of the EU, it is the UK that has that status and EU regulations state that Scotland would need to apply for membership and with their current GDP, for instance, outwith the stated criteria this would be problematic.
All this getting someone in one or two of the countries to endorse the SNPs stance and approach is a nonsense as all member states would need to agree to their own rules being ignored to allow Scotland in.

Secondly it's not as simple as that re currency. The rest of the UK can legally stop Scotland using the GBP although they could still call their currency the pound albeit a Scottish one. However for EU membership Scotland would need to adopt the Euro.

This appealing to the EU (stand by us as we stood by you )is nothing but posturing from Sturgeon with the end goal independence albeit anyone of sound mind will know that bankruptcy won't be far behind.

Why is Sturgeon so desperate to access the EU markets whilst potentially turning her back on the UK markets which are worth far more?

Scots have clearly been told that they can do anything they like on their own terms if they leave the UK.

Anyone who watched the Scots ref will remember that the SNP were asked time and time again what they were going to do for a currency because they would not be allowed to keep sterling - they could never answer that question.

Scots seem to think that the entire UK establishment is going to just let them wander off clutching the pound and then that the EU is going to let them join with it.

Complete national delusion.

On the 10th of June this year Sturgeon said that an independent Scotland would use the £ yet on the 21st she changed this to the euro.
That's a common trait with her and her MPs.

Sturgeon on her way back from Brussels and she's now fully aware just how little power and influence she has.

She's the queen of spin though and we'll get a "reading between the lines they are giving us their full support" quote.

Does anyone in England give a **** about Scotland or the Scottish people?

Used to be a great country now just a bunch of angry gingers.

Well you obviously do or you wouldn't have posted.

JP Morgan sees new Scottish currency initially backed by BoE, ECB


JP Morgan said on Thursday a Scottish currency in a newly independent Scotland could initially be stabilised near parity with sterling by the Bank of England and European Central Bank, given their strong mutual interest in ensuring stability there.

The U.S. bank created a stir in financial markets on Wednesday by saying its "base case" forecast now is that Scotland gains independence and introduces its own currency before Britain leaves the European Union in 2019.

A Scottish central bank would face huge challenges, such as having no access to sterling reserves large enough to underpin a lender of last resort facility for Scotland's financial sector.

"We could imagine a framework where both the ECB and the Bank of England made some small portion of their reserves available to assist in the management of the new currency upon its launch," JP Morgan economist Malcolm Barr said.

"There could be an initial commitment to try and stabilize the new currency near parity to the pound, with interest rates set by a Scottish central bank above those set by the Bank of England," Barr said in a note to clients.

All countries joining the EU are obliged to join the euro at some point, but there is no pre-set time frame. This could take years for Scotland, Barr said, citing the example of Sweden which still uses its own currency.

Scotland voted to stay in the EU in last week's referendum, putting it at odds with the United Kingdom as a whole, which voted 52-48 percent in favour of Brexit.


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http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-scotland-jpmorgan-idUKKCN0ZG13S

Thanks bigmo, very interesting.

I guess the new currency would be called the Buckie of Buck for short, due to the great affection they hold for Buckfast

topshit,

Your comments are about as popular as a fart in a spacesuit.

Hoots mon, that's not very neighbourly

It won't matter what Sturgeon wants the EU would demand we take the Euro.
Anyways as we don't meet any of the criteria for joining it's all a load of bluster.

Independent Scotland + Sterling + Acceptance into the EU = Fantasy.

Fantasy sums up wee Nicki. she's always been a dreamer ever since she met her hero.