Why is Sterling in this team?

well David Sullivan reckons Payet is worth 3 times what they paid for him, making his value £30m, Sterling would cost more than that


You wouldn't get £30M for Sterling.

The thing for me is on the right he'd get into real dangerous areas of the pitch more often, closer to the goal down that side. He's not a player either side you want to see stuck to the flanks trying to cross the ball.

You ideally want him using his pace then cutting in and picking out someone in box/linking with a team mate to get into the box himself. The percentages would favour this scenario massively on his proper side. There would still be the issue of his composure but that's when you could really judge him at this level.

I don't know at exactly what point he was considered a left sided player, i must have dreamed of him on the right for liverpool

he played left and right for Liverpool. Even the Liverpool fans had a song about him on the left :

Pass to Sterling on the left hand side
pass to Sterling on the left hand side
let him run,
ball give him the ball let twist and turn

let him run
ball give him the ball let twist and turn.

he started on the right mover

he actually played wing back a couple of times both sides and played through the middle when we had all the injuries and balotelli was the other option .

you seriously trying to tell me this playing him on the left is sensible?

I don't mind him there, thought him and Rose looked a promising combination

I suppose it benefits City more when he's on the left as it free's up Silva more, than it does England

it suits city more when he's not on the pitch

themover, why are you bursting a blood vessel over Sterling, you're only a pretend City fan. Calm down get back to tending to the launderette.

I wonder what Pep will do with him, he's used to technical players

you,ve got to laugh at all the theorys behind sterlings position,sterlings only decent football was played for about 3 months at l,pool when it didnt matter where he played,as long,and he,s the rub SUAREZ   was on the pitch, same goes for henderson

you don't have to laugh but to play someone on the left who has a left foot like that and expect crosses is truly

As i said the worst of all possible worlds

got to be a sterling hat trick after all this

He's good at running the ball to the corner flag, but that's about it.

Was shocked to see him in the team
If hes going to play then the only position is right wing.Beat players then get crosses in.

He's a good outlet and ball carrier one of the fastest players in the tournament. I'd still have him the team than not. He's one of the reasons why we looked so fast and dynamic last night.

What we lacked though is that German like clinical precision when putting the ball in the net.

we had a shot from lala on target though straight at keeper and a speculator straight at keeper from rooney plus a cross shot from lala,you,d think we had a dozen 1 on 1,s with the keeper the way people are banging on about been clynical etc,kane never had a sniff all night

We all know Sterling aint the greatest technically!

He is in the team because of pace and possibly carrying the ball here and there.

If he were to score a hat-trick he would need to composed\clinical and have 10 chances and\or shooting against Mignolet.

TENDY

1TP when i'm saying vlinical,cutting edge i'm on about the final ball that should lead to a good chance. I mentioned we didn't create enough good chances from the balance of play.

The suggestion these players don't have the ability to play such a ball after the quality of some of the build up and knowing them for the domestic league is not on.When an average ball can't be made to create a chance it suggests a lack of composure more often than not.

Do we have enough players that have the bottle in these situations where it counts? In other tournaments including the last WC I thought we were horrific quality wise on the ball, last night i thought the quality was in spells very good.

Granted the opposition was not great but the keeping of possession (they did try to press) and tempo were better than i am used to watching us in tournaments.

*clinical

striding , I think we will find out Russia are extremely moderate. The superlatives poured on England was ridiculous. Sterling is not international class. Sturridge is a far better player.

as ive posted before the difference between england and the big teams is that the full backs ,midfielders of the big teams are trying to get messi,ronaldo,muller etc on the ball in the last 3rd,we,re using or best players rooney,ali,etc trying to get walker and rose on the ball in the last 3rd ,we can have as much passing bright play as you like but 95% of the time it ends up with aimless balls into the box from in world terms 2 journeymen fullbacks, bit like alves having a 1000 crosses a season for barca and creating 1 goal

1st time , that's right. Rooney played well but he can't do what Wilshere offers. We really need the latter AND Vardy.  I would even play Vardy if it meant Kane on the bench. but as you say the star finishers need the supply.

What does Wilshere offer thats so important to the team? I hope he proves the doubters wrong but he's not the same player he was pre many injuries!

in defence of Sterling at least he does try and have a go..
that is take the ball and run at the opposition
albiet it didn't come off for him yesterday, i agree.

If your anagram was "Ringlets", wouldn't you try to run circles round everyone at least twice until losing your way and falling over.

If sterling and llananananananaaaa start against wales it proves roy is well past it there is no point having pace if u don't pass the ball and find space to use it llannanananananananana is nothing but a poser of a footballer who likes flicks and tricks but again no end product.

after so long to consider his options, i thought Woys team selection was shocking.

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If sterling and llananananananaaaa start against wales it proves roy is well past it there is no point having pace if u don't pass the ball and find space to use it llannanananananananana is nothing but a poser of a footballer who likes flicks and tricks but again no end product.

agree

ii was surprised to see them both start

If England can't do better than Stirling, a man who has had a poor season and shows no sign of improving then we really are fooked.

it's all guess work from Roy...back 4, Eric Dier and everyone else do their best Barcelona impersonation for 90 minutes.

would of liked to see Vardy given a start, in a 4-4-2
and played the ball forward quicker

Lallana did well yday. One of the better players. Just final pass, crosses poor.

Sterling has the yips and he also has the habit of giving away needless free kicks.  Had Welbeck been fit he wouldn't have played and it's debatable whether Oxlade Chamberlain would have took his place too.  Andros Townsend should be in the squad.

Thought England played very well myself to a man, except Raheem.  Alli is a class act.

agree they played very well but were let down by the coaching

Eddie Jones cocked up selection in the egg chasing versus the Aussies but realized it and had the balls to make the (early) changes with both personnel and positional

Roy didnt

Worry is russia were so poor and we could only score 1 goal past them.Could we be the 1st brit team home.

Some reports today suggest that the same team may be selected for the Wales match; if so, and not a mis-leek, then definitely bus fare home time: and even a win should result in the same journey for some/one.

How Hodgson got the England gig says it all really he had Vardy who most teams would have played but dosen't like him obviously.
Engalnd deserve to go home much like Arsenal great squad but playing the wrong players. Willshire should start ahead of Rooney.
Sterling should be sent home FFS

Don't often big up England but was one of the best matches I've seen them play.....Before the game Rooney and Stirling would never have got anywhere near my squad but thought they played well and we were very unfortunate not to win the match easily.....Don't agree with going negative when the team is in such control so would have bought Vardy on instead of Milner but I'm not in charge.....they surprised me...

Sterling has come out and said to the press he feels like the most hated player in England at the moment. Confidence must be low.  It's a shame as I thought a few years ago he was going to be one of our brighter talents. The whole Liverpool business seems to have some how effected him ?

I dont think it is the acrimonious transfer to City that is the problem.

The lad simply inst top class , he is on a par with Shaun Wright-Phillips , just a decent player.


His reputation was gained when Liverpool had Suarez in attack, maybe the one of the worlds top 3 strikers ...causing absolute panic and mayhem week in week out.


Defences had to forget about Sterling from time to time ...giving him loads of space to run and dribble with space aplenty.

He looked fantastic.

Take the Suarez factor out and then you find out his true ability .

That's a very good assessment of Sterling.

exactly, in time even the blind beggar will suss out sterlings best 3 months conincided with suarez and stevie g in peak form,never come anywhere near them heights during the rest of his career

'the rest of his career' wtf are you banging on about? He's 21. At worst he's got another ten years.

He will make you all look stupid.

Sterling is the only winger in the squad (for whatever reason).  Therefore he is pretty much guaranteed to play a lot in this tournament regardless of ability / form etc

Surely Man city have players of quality that would have allowed him to play his best at City? A poor season by their standards and he is low in confidence consistently playing down the left, from what i've seen and i keep banging on about it, he has a poor left foot and that will almost certainly always be the case.

I'm not buying this he needs suarez idea, sturridge was getting this too and his scoring ratio has been right up there without him too when fit. I'm not comparing these 2 either, one is a prolific natural goal scorer and the other struggles to maintain composure but was getting plenty of chances and causing plenty of problems for the opposition.

Personally I think Sterling is being made the scapegoat now, it's gone too far.

Rashford has the pace and trickery to play on the wing.

scapegoat for what according to the looney posters,pundits,managers,players it was england best performance in a tournament for 10 years

I just think Kane has been poor by his standards for the last 2 games, rubbish movement, caught offside when he should have been more aware. It's all right blaming everyone else but he has not played with a zest or intelligence needed in a tournament like this in last warm up game or the Russia game. I think looney people like Wright and Shearer also mentioned this (what would they know about forward play) but Sterling is getting all the flack.

But we can just say it's down to Sterling and not look elsewhere.

A scapegoat for England failing to be clinical is what i was referring to.

OnePercenter, I'm not sure Rashford has any experience of playing out wide. Not really as simple as being able to run fast.  The same could be said for Vardy and he only seems to be half the player if he isn't played up front.  Wingers still need to have a basic understanding of how to play the position, especially helping out defensively, especially at this level

Ashley Young should be in the squad - he can play either wing or either fullback and would be the best set-piece taker. They could have left the redundant Bertrand at home

You just can't believe how that performance has been described. Playing a weak team weakened even further by the loss of two or three decent players, we've scored from a free-kick and our centre-forward has been completely anonymous. I think stridingedge is right - although he can't be blamed for other people's failure to provide any fodder, Kane has looked pretty listless, hardly surprising given his workload over the last eighteen months, and should be taken out of the fray. Also, if you leave your best player - Wheelchair - on the bench, you're a mug. I will give Roy the benefit of the doubt as it was the first game, but if that geezer even dreams we can win a game that matters without JW in the side, he needs shooting.

best diver too

He's a grubby little oik Capt_F that's a fact.

Who's this jw??

Wilshere, Tree.

This has the makings of a classic thread, a sterling goal and a couple of assists

We are playing Wales next, even Joe Hart has a good chance of scoring.

sterling has always been over hyped like most ordinary young england players (alli, rashford, etc.) but most get found out eventually.

england can never accept defeat and always look for somebody to blame (remember beckham effigies being burned) so somebody will always be pointing a finger rather than admit the team just isn't good enough.

it does surprise me that roy is picking players who aren't even first team players, and players who couldn't handle pressure, instead of players who showed determination, ability and battling qualities all season.

better to pick players in form than just pick your mates and a few media picks.
after all, that same media will turn on you the instant it all goes wrong.

Smallings defending had a lot to do with the score line too.

I was at a party on Saturday night and was slagging Sterling off all night. Not one of the dozen people watching concurred. Good to see I'm not going mad! Hopefully he'll play this week as I've backed the draw!

Sterling should man up play a good game and the fans will love you.Why can't our players have a german or italian mentality.

roy loves losers so sterling likely to have a long run in the team
likewise the nivea boys,more bothered about beards,barnets,tatts and complexion than playing football
vardy will get his chance but not till we are on the brink of elimination

I reckon Rooney will be pushed up into the left hand forward position and probably Wilshere will come into midfield so Dier can go more man to man v Bale.

As for Sterling, the over-reaction on here after one game continues to not surprise at all.


I fully accept I would say this but I'd start Sterling-Sturridge-Lallana as a front 3. They know each others' games well and it has echoes of 18 months ago when it was Sterling-Coutinho-Lallana as a mobile front 3 for Liverpool which looked really good. Sturridge is our best striker. He just is. He's better than Kane, Vardy and anyone else you'd care to mention. Lallana is just a great team player but is also talented, can create and get on the end of things. Had 2 good efforts saved v Russia. And while Sterling is being pilloried the lad still has amazing pace and great ability and can turn things in an instant.


For all the talk of Sterling here (how we love our scapegoats) I thought Kane was very poor. I'm not overly concerned if he gets another start (in fact I couldn't give a toss really) but if I was picking the team he wouldn't be in it.

rumour is that roy is starting the same team as started in the first match

Roy will stick with his original team as he hasn't a clue tactically, JW and Vardy should be on the team. Sterling is woeful yep he is fast but thats it, a young Theo now where did that go wrong.

PoP

The trouble with playing both Sterling and Lallana is that neither of them have sufficient end product. If the other frontman has a nightmare, as Kane did the other night, we're in $hit street.

The Man City fans who've watched him all season are less than impressed with Sterling for all the same reasons that people on here want him out of the team. He is most effective as an impact sub as in the recent friendly.

Whoever he drops, I agree that Sturridge must surely start tomorrow as he is the one with the composure in front of goal.

If Roy suggests starting with the same team he should be sacked on the spot.

how come you support England Miss Wales a bit ironic but would agree Sturridge better than Sterling

Sturridge is good at finding space, it's weird at times it's like the other players just don't see where he's going and then he's in on goal. Kane has been superb for Spurs for 2 seasons, a great finisher no doubt but he has to do more than the last couple of games in terms of offering himself and his movement.

Whatever Roy does, I want to see him make changes if it's obvious something isn't working.We can't have another game where the forward seems virtually non existent.

I see the point in that. I think Lallana does have an end product and could easily have had a couple but his scoring record for us isn't the best all things considered.


I just think in terms of a front 3 as a unit, it could work better.

Makes sense to me too O4K, but then i would say that as well.

Would help Sterling too, they played plenty together and were good at linking for club.

LaLa would be in the next bracket of player IF he produced the end product he promised. I actually think he is more consistent for England but his scuffed dragged shot the other night just speaks volumes to me.

Does anyone know where you can find assists for the internationals ?

www.morepointlessfinstats.com has detailed files.

think Roy is tragic,he might very well play sterling-persist with kane taking the corners,not make a change during the match when the change is so obvious,must make the players despair and its all set up for an eng fail,have to see the line-up obviously and give the game 10 mins....

thanks for that Jed

Always like to help.

obviously

If my club could sign either Kane or Sturridge I would want Kane all day every day.
Yes Sturridge is more naturally gifted than Kane but then again so is Ravel Morrison.
Kane is a mentally strong player who hardly misses a game whereas even Klopp has questioned Sturridge's courage.
It is just a pity Kane's form has dipped a little lately.

if you used every argument put forward as to why sterling should play,he wouldnt be playing anyway because walcott would still be in the team

sterling only plays for sterling and will never pass to someone in a better position because he wants all the glory himself.

suarez made him look good.

england should be starting with kane and vardy but I hope they don't.

sorry that previous post was about sturridge and not sterling.

shows how much the likes of woy are stuck in a bubble suprised by russia losing today,when everyone new russia,s performance against england was easily the worst in the competition,woy obviously deluding himself that was due to his teams performance

Outpost his job is to score goals with or without suarez he scores goals at a fantastic rate when fit.

I suggest you go back and look at the goals he scored in that season put in by gerrard/coutinho/sterling/henderson and of course suarez. he was lethal 1 on 1 and usually is.

I've nothing against starting with kane again, but if he's as redundant in this game after an hour he should be subbed, for all he's done in the league he has to prove it at this level in a tournament, I think he can and i hope he does but he's offered nothing in the last 2 matches, looked out of sorts to me.

Vardy is a sub for me later in the game especially if the opposition need to commit (like the russian game). He is much better when playing it longer imo and if there is space to run into he becomes a very dangerous player.

Kane didn't play well.  He and Sterling were England's worst players.  Everyone else played well, (granted Hart had nothing to do) particularly Alli, Rooney and Walker.  Alli is England's best player, he makes the game look so simple, and you will see in the next few years what a good player he is.  Already England's best player since Scholes, Becks and Gerrard.  The difference is Kane has been playing well all season, so he's worth another chance.  Sterling hasn't.  As for why he is in the team, he's the only winger and the system suits him.  His confidence is shot, for which the ex Liverpool players who hounded him thanks to the media must take some credit.  At the end of England's qualifying campaign he looked England's best player so it has nowt to with Suarez making him look good.

It's the institutional racism of the English football culture.

City paid £45m for a headless chicken. Just about sums them up.

The 'safe' widemen who rarely get to the byline or rarely take on their opponent and who can always hide behind the fact that they work hard get a relatively easy time from the critics.

Whereas the widemen who take risks get slaughtered every time the risk doesn't come off or if they are having a bad game.  This is the English way.

Wingers have disappeared from the game.I saw George Best(amazing),Eddie Gray,Jimnmy jonstone,John Robertson,Steve Heighway etc etc.A typical wingman now, get's the ball,turns back and either passes infield or back,the ball ends up too often with the centre half.You go from a one on one winger v full back situation to nothing.Chance to create a goal has gone.Its all about possesion nowadays,especially since Barcelona emerged.Not surprised English teams have got worse in Champs League.Last proper side we had in champs League was Man Utd ....with width.Need to be more direct,more width,...maybe Ranieri knows!
Sterling is clueless on the left,he just doesn't have the footballing brain to see things.If hes going to play then shove him on the right,hes right footed!tell him to beat full backs and get a cross in..its not rocket science for him  that way.

agree with everything the 2 posters above say,but it also coincides with most teams playing with 1 or no centre forwards,germany play without a centre forward world champions

alot of the wingers named above could be frustrating for centre forwards as theres a few dilly dancers there, i suppose the modern era centre forward would prefer to play with a widemen who got the ball in early and often,john robertson forrest,beckham etc

brilliant miss

Welsh Somalian

Useless **** strikes again, or not as usual.

might not play again

He can't do ANYTHING well apart from run about.

AW giving sterling man of the match

I can't see Sterling starting another match in these Euros and unless Pep can work some magic with him I can't see him starting more than a dozen games for City next season

Can't find a thread from a few years ago
when people first started talking about RS
Said he would be playing for Tranmere  or
something similar in a few years time
  Actually that might be to higher league (for his talents)