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johnni
09 Jun 16 17:47
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Uruguay vs Venezuela will be played at Philadelphia, PA, Lincoln Financial Field.

Newest news say Suarez wont play for Uruguay.

Live video links will be here 20min before game: https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/

Copa America site where you can see live match stats with a lot of details is here: http://www.ca2016.com/

Venezuela needs one win to be in.

Mexico had almost like a home game in the last match, so we might not know yet if Uruguay is actually a powerful team in this game until we see them vs Venezuela. But after we see them vs Venezuela, its too late....right? We want to know it before hand


Looks like teams that have fast young players like Mexico, they can run around "older experienced" teams.

Uruguay might play good tactic football but one mistake and opponent will run past you and make 2 goals, arriva arriva! Like in Mexico game.

Venezuela needs only one win to be in. Uruguay has a must win situation but that can be a disadvantige if it turns into panic, when they see that they cant score.


It also seems that age is really a factor in these games. I have no clue if this has any meaning in any direction but I made the following calculations for fun.


Venezuelas last team from Vs Jamaica (includes substitutions made in game).
List of players, after that age:

Josef Martinez 23
Salomon Rondon 26
Arquímede Figuera 26
Luis Seijas 29
Tomas Rincon 28
Alejandro Guerra 30
Wilker Angel 23
Rolf Feltscher 26
Roberto Rosales 27
Oswaldo Vizcarrondo 32
Daniel Hernandez 30
Adalberto penadanra 19
Romulo Otero 23
Alexander Gonzalez 23

Average age of Venezuela: 26.07
Average age without goalkeeper: 25.76


Uruguays last team from vs Mexico: (includes substitutions made in game)


Fernando Muslera 29
Maximiliano Pereira 32
Diego Godin 30
Alvaro Pereira 30
Jose Gimenez 21
Egidio Arevalo 34
Nicolas Lodeiro 27
Carlos Sanchez 31
Matias Vecino 24
Edinson Cavani 29
Diego Rolan 23
Alvaro Gonzalez 31
Abel Hernandez 25
Gaston Ramizez 25

Avarage age of Uruguay: 27.92
Average age without goalkeeper: 27.84


Just for the fun, here is Mexicos from vs Uruguay:

Raul Jimenez 25
Jesus Duenas 27
Hirving Lozano 20
Javier Hernandex 28
Jesus Corona 23
Hector Herreira 26
Javier Aquino 26
Andres Guardado 29
Nestor Araujo 24
Diego Reyes 23
Miguel Layun 27
Hector Moreno 28
Rafael Marquez 37
Alfredo Talavera 33

Average age of Mexico 26.85
Average age without goalkeeper: 26.38

Mexico does have 2 olders players in cup (Rafael Marquez 37 and Alfredo Talavera 33)  but the other one is a goalkeeper who dont need to run in the field all the time.



I have no clue who is better, but Mexico vs Jamaica seems to be a more sure bet than this one.
Let the discussion begin!
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Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 1:02 AM BST
feel like overs only has a chance if uruguay score first half.
Report johnni June 10, 2016 1:05 AM BST
Suarez wants to bite them.
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 1:07 AM BST
cavani ffs.
Report johnni June 10, 2016 1:10 AM BST
what do you think clacherholiday2 will happen
Report stroodle June 10, 2016 1:11 AM BST
Cavan just runs about like a headless chicken, only good with the head and kidding on he's injured.
Report johnni June 10, 2016 1:12 AM BST
Lol. 1min ago i cashed out and rebetted on...venezuela. lucky me i guess.
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 1:12 AM BST
LaughLaughLaugh

ffs
Report johnni June 10, 2016 1:12 AM BST
but damned iw as just waiting for my venezuela/venzuela to go in and suspended came. 12 odds.
Report TheChaser June 10, 2016 1:12 AM BST
your man rondon clach
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 1:13 AM BST
well there goes my htft bet

what a great effort that was
Report johnni June 10, 2016 1:13 AM BST
Venezuela/Venezuela

12 €5.00  €55.00
This market was suspended at the time of bet submission.
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 1:13 AM BST
yeah thechaser ive had nothign on him or venezuela in this match.

fear the worst for the ref here, could be loads of cards out.
Report johnni June 10, 2016 1:14 AM BST
Uruguay is good under pressure but screw that youtube link im going to batmanstreams faster one. damed.
Report GTFI June 10, 2016 1:15 AM BST
so now it is 0-1,  and value in the 5's ofr Uraguay lads?  anyone actually watching,  must admit,  i fancied Uraguay pre KO
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 1:16 AM BST
i want to see a proper replay of that goal, how far out was the keeper when the shot came in?  surely the keeper couldve done better
Report TheChaser June 10, 2016 1:16 AM BST
got 2/1 on over 2.5 on the top up come end to end stuff would be nice
Report johnni June 10, 2016 1:17 AM BST
im on venezuelas side now. their playstyle is so much like peru, they want to win but uruguay is still too slow.
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 1:17 AM BST
GTFI I wouldnt, theyre the better side but they cant do anything up top, theyve had a few half chances turn to nothing
Report johnni June 10, 2016 1:18 AM BST
Second yellow for venezuela, they truly want to win.
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 1:18 AM BST
is international football really so bad that suarez can make these ranked 9th in the world
Report TheChaser June 10, 2016 1:18 AM BST
Cavani needs to score or he should be dropped for WC Laugh
Report johnni June 10, 2016 1:19 AM BST
True they cant do anything in top but, look at this. Uruguay tries to play football but Venezuela is 11 men in the field pushing Uruguays men down as much as they can.
Report jaykally June 10, 2016 1:20 AM BST
They got no shape, what formation are they playing? Can't believe i backed this crap
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 1:21 AM BST
maybe they need a red card like they had against mexico, they pinned the mexicans back in thier own box a man down
Report TheChaser June 10, 2016 1:21 AM BST
was just thinking that clach without suarez they are nothing , better with forlan than cavani Laugh
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 1:22 AM BST
HT 0-1
Report johnni June 10, 2016 1:23 AM BST
I had 80e on Uruguay. But then venezuela attacked and attacked so i withdrew that all and put it on venezuela. 30s later goal.
lol lucky
Report GTFI June 10, 2016 1:24 AM BST

Jun 9, 2016 -- 7:17PM, clacherholiday2 wrote:


GTFI I wouldnt, theyre the better side but they cant do anything up top, theyve had a few half chances turn to nothing


okies,  cheers bud

Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 1:26 AM BST
forlan was a different level to cavani.  he could play anywhere and score anyway he wanted, he was similar to henrik larsson and just as good.

alex ferguson said the only reason he never made it at united was because he wanted to win too much, he used to train too hard and it pissed everyone off behind the scenes.
Report johnni June 10, 2016 1:26 AM BST
I think this will end 0-2 or 1-2
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 1:27 AM BST
ive lost one of my 3 bets but the others are still live, goign to take a huge swing though so hoping for a bad penalty call or lucky goal like that last one.

uruguay and over2.5 and uruguay and BTTS running
Report stroodle June 10, 2016 1:27 AM BST
Just backed 2-1 Uruguay, even though that Cavani is on the park and they don't look like scoring. If they get an early break in second half, could see them getting another.
Report TheChaser June 10, 2016 1:29 AM BST
I mean the Forlan of now not even back then , he was some finisher.Even at united he never scored much but when he did crackers
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 1:30 AM BST
abel hernandez of hull scored a few in the championship but hes another one like cavani that needs 10 chances to get a shot on target
Report jaykally June 10, 2016 1:31 AM BST
They have to come out now or exit. I don't know what their attacking options are on the bench. That's my bad, betting on a team i don't really know.  Risk Suarez and go for it you chumps.
Report TheChaser June 10, 2016 1:31 AM BST
Single
BET SELECTIONS
1.    10/06/2016 - Uruguay v Venezuela - Goals in Both Halves
Goals in Both Halves @ 8/11    Open
BET DETAILS Bet Placed:  10/06/2016 00:33

Got some on this also
Report TheChaser June 10, 2016 1:32 AM BST
Risk Suarez and go for it you chumps.Laugh
Report GRANTCKING June 10, 2016 1:32 AM BST
omfg the ice hockey is crazy
Report GRANTCKING June 10, 2016 1:32 AM BST
2-2 after 5mins
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 1:33 AM BST
i need to relax before this second half, im goign to go have a cigarette and make a cup of this fruity blackberry tea i really like, its a nice change from the black coffee.  bird i used to work with got me into them but its been a long time since ive had tea in this house.

tastes a bit like blackcurrent lemsip
Report jaykally June 10, 2016 1:33 AM BST
with cavan like catch said, a target man, problem is there is no one there to get on the end of those flick on's.  therefore he might as well not be there. big freak prove me wrong
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 1:33 AM BST
i was looking at the overs odds and it was only about 1.7 for over5.5, looked way too short Shocked
Report stroodle June 10, 2016 1:34 AM BST
Venezuela might change mindset in second half, believing 1-0 will be good enough to qualify and sit back, giving Uruguay every opportunity to get back into this match.
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 1:35 AM BST
venezuela sitting back is the worst thing that could happen
Report stroodle June 10, 2016 1:38 AM BST
Not sure I would agree with you there, Uruguay have been **** so far in this game and don't look like scoring, unless Venezuela give them a hand.
Report stroodle June 10, 2016 1:41 AM BST
Have to agree with an earlier post, there is no formation style to Uruguay, just seem put together tonight.
Report johnni June 10, 2016 1:44 AM BST
I put few euro on 0-2 and 0-3
Report johnni June 10, 2016 1:44 AM BST
Sorry Uruguay, you are going home.
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 1:46 AM BST
johnni you might end up being the only winner tonight
Report johnni June 10, 2016 1:47 AM BST
Yea well see. There have been too many games so far in this tournament that ended in the favourable teams end (i mean better odds). When you compare odds in older odds rom older cups, usually markets are always wrong. It doesnt have to mean the other team wins but it means that there could be a draw.
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 1:47 AM BST
jesus, keep that down
Report johnni June 10, 2016 1:48 AM BST
in older odds rom older cups,  = I mean when you compare this cup with 2015, 2011, 2007, markets rarely predict the winner. This cup it was 7 games in a row or was it 6.
Report johnni June 10, 2016 1:55 AM BST
Im gonna put alien - resurrection on second monitor on so I have double action. Soon is the moment when the alien escapes the holding cell its in.
Report Biffo2010 June 10, 2016 1:56 AM BST
Whats Suarez at , is he definitely injured
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 1:57 AM BST
yeah, not sure why hes getting ready to come on, hes not even listed as a sub.

they werent expecitn ghim back until after the group stage but i guess they dont need to worry abotu that the way this is going
Report johnni June 10, 2016 2:01 AM BST
Maybe he is thirsty.
Report johnni June 10, 2016 2:03 AM BST
i smell goals
Report johnni June 10, 2016 2:03 AM BST
5e on over 2.5
Report johnni June 10, 2016 2:04 AM BST
Suarez warming up thats pathetic. You ARE TOO LATE MAN, TOO LATE. To quote Aliens: ITS GAME OVER MAN, GAME OVER
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 2:08 AM BST
this is the first game of the tournament i feel like ive REALLY guessed wrong.

i lost on the ecuador draw last night but i did say all day the game would be close, so not a total shock but this i got wrong from the start.
Report johnni June 10, 2016 2:11 AM BST
To me Uruguay is just a famous name of something that was. The almost goal 10min ago also had bad reactions from uruguay, cavani or what his name is, only laid on the grass whining, not getting up and running to stop the ball. Bunch of...cry..babies... im sorry Uruguay.:
Report johnni June 10, 2016 2:13 AM BST
Hm that loreido or what his name is, his face was a little conserning. He might goal.
Report johnni June 10, 2016 2:19 AM BST
Good Venezuela playing time. Let odds go down.
Report johnni June 10, 2016 2:19 AM BST
Ok I cash out too much excitement for me.
Report jaykally June 10, 2016 2:20 AM BST
No urgency, they never had anything. I f up, after the first 3 minutes it was clear. I should have cashed out then, for a 15% loss, but I hate cash out. I have never been a fan of cavani, and if he is your only threat forget about it. Stupidly i went in deep on the double. oh well.
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 2:21 AM BST
0-2 coming in injury time, get ready for the big price
Report Senyatta June 10, 2016 2:21 AM BST
non tryer
Report stroodle June 10, 2016 2:23 AM BST
Cavani at his bestCry
Report TheChaser June 10, 2016 2:24 AM BST
what a mug
Report ewood June 10, 2016 2:25 AM BST
I'm struggling to understand why Abel Hernandez wasn't brought on???
Report johnni June 10, 2016 2:25 AM BST
Uruguay woke up too late.
Report jaykally June 10, 2016 2:26 AM BST
where was this urgency at the start of the second half. this is bs, nothing without suarez
Report johnni June 10, 2016 2:27 AM BST
Nooooo my 0-2 was so close
Report Senyatta June 10, 2016 2:27 AM BST
lol what a bellend. least they still won though
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 2:28 AM BST
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK...
Report TheChaser June 10, 2016 2:28 AM BST
10/1 for over 1.5 and he misses that fkcing turd
Report johnni June 10, 2016 2:28 AM BST
You who made losses, go all in on mexico.
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 2:29 AM BST
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    0 - 2 50.0 £7.22 £353.78
Report TheChaser June 10, 2016 2:30 AM BST
i only got involved as much with this because it was first
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 2:30 AM BST
that miss though, seriously you bastards
Report stroodle June 10, 2016 2:31 AM BST
Didn't see Uruguay first game against Mexico, but this display from most of the Uruguayan  players have been clueless throughout this game. When you hear all the hype that's put about certain players through the years like Cavani, just makes you laugh at what is interpreted as quality, ****g overrated donkey, on par with Djeko another donkey.
Report TheChaser June 10, 2016 2:32 AM BST
clacherholiday2 10 Jun 16 02:30 Joined: 02 Jun 04 | Topic/replies: 6,626 | Blogger: clacherholiday2's blog
that miss though, seriously you bastards
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fckers was on over 1.5 at 10/1 to get all money back and a nice little earner , i see you had 2-0 also fcking uiseless


mexico wont fkc this , goals galore
Report TheChaser June 10, 2016 2:33 AM BST
spot on with djeko also
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 2:34 AM BST
ive got 3 bets on this mexico game already, surely got to get at least one of them in.
Report johnni June 10, 2016 2:34 AM BST
MEXICO YOU MUST DELIVER!!!!!!! lets all go to the other threadExcitedDevil
Report milla445 June 10, 2016 2:34 AM BST
I'm not normally one for seething - unless Willie Collum is involved - but **** me, Cavani should be ****g shot. Suarez is probably going to batter him in the dressing room, so that's some comfort.
Report Senyatta June 10, 2016 2:34 AM BST
it was evident venezuela would need an open goal to score a second. in the end it still wasn't enough. if they had any sort of quality they'd have won by 3 or 4 against an abysmal uruguay team.
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 2:34 AM BST
cavani is awful on his own up front, perfec strike partner but sh1te on his own
Report TheChaser June 10, 2016 2:36 AM BST

milla445 10 Jun 16 02:34 Joined: 01 Oct 10 | Topic/replies: 12,161 | Blogger: milla445's blog
I'm not normally one for seething - unless Willie Collum is involved - but **** me, Cavani should be ****g shot. Suarez is probably going to batter him in the dressing room, so that's some comfort.



hel bite the bit lanky streak of p1sh
Report jaykally June 10, 2016 2:36 AM BST
e ore.  This Cavan is much worse than Djeko, just big for nothing, thought that for years, don't know what people see in him. . A poor man's carrol and that's saying something.  I wished i watched heir first game, had i done so, no way i'd get involved in this, they had nothing, showed nothing and are nothing.  Fighting for survival at least you'd expect some heart, some fight, something. I wouldn't mind losing like that, but today they just did not care.
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 2:37 AM BST
i need to get away from the computer for a few minutes, when i saw that open goal at the end it was the firs time ive jumped out of my seat for a football game since atletico madrids equaliser i nthe champions league final Grin
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 2:38 AM BST
jaykally they played much better than this in the first game, mostly with 10 men, you would never have seen this coming
Report TheChaser June 10, 2016 2:41 AM BST
Cavani should be dragged by that long hair through the streets of  Montevideo whilst everyone gets to launch any object they like at him with suarez chewing the feckers ankles
Report stroodle June 10, 2016 2:50 AM BST
Whole Uruguay team were awful tonight, goalie caught of his line from a distance to start the ball rolling, right through the whole lot. Cant say one player had a good game from what I watched, you really can't legislate for whole team being ****. All in all it was a very poor display from the favs tonight, no excuses, they were just very very poor tonight.
Report kincsem June 10, 2016 4:16 AM BST
I lost big.
Report TheChaser June 10, 2016 5:04 AM BST
i got smoked on both games , both should have had 10-15 goals at least between then goodnight  Cry
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 3:06 PM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sPNQ26mQ78

skip to 4.20.  i dont know why im doing this to myself, 50.0 for 2-0 backed 30 seconds before it
Report TheChaser June 10, 2016 3:15 PM BST
If that went in i would have been up for the game also , i might have lost more on the Mexico game though Laugh
Report stroodle June 10, 2016 4:20 PM BST
Yeah it's annoying when you build up a nice kitty, then to loss some on a team that played like **** throughout the match. I'm backing Jamaica against Uruguay next match, even though Jamaica are looking for there first goal, these Uruguay players are liable to through the towel in, useless bastards.
Report clacherholiday2 June 10, 2016 4:27 PM BST
Jaimica had enough chances to beat Mexico last night, didnt take any of them, I thin kthe Mexican keep had 1 save.
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