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johnni
09 Jun 16 17:47
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Uruguay vs Venezuela will be played at Philadelphia, PA, Lincoln Financial Field.

Newest news say Suarez wont play for Uruguay.

Live video links will be here 20min before game: https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/

Copa America site where you can see live match stats with a lot of details is here: http://www.ca2016.com/

Venezuela needs one win to be in.

Mexico had almost like a home game in the last match, so we might not know yet if Uruguay is actually a powerful team in this game until we see them vs Venezuela. But after we see them vs Venezuela, its too late....right? We want to know it before hand


Looks like teams that have fast young players like Mexico, they can run around "older experienced" teams.

Uruguay might play good tactic football but one mistake and opponent will run past you and make 2 goals, arriva arriva! Like in Mexico game.

Venezuela needs only one win to be in. Uruguay has a must win situation but that can be a disadvantige if it turns into panic, when they see that they cant score.


It also seems that age is really a factor in these games. I have no clue if this has any meaning in any direction but I made the following calculations for fun.


Venezuelas last team from Vs Jamaica (includes substitutions made in game).
List of players, after that age:

Josef Martinez 23
Salomon Rondon 26
Arquímede Figuera 26
Luis Seijas 29
Tomas Rincon 28
Alejandro Guerra 30
Wilker Angel 23
Rolf Feltscher 26
Roberto Rosales 27
Oswaldo Vizcarrondo 32
Daniel Hernandez 30
Adalberto penadanra 19
Romulo Otero 23
Alexander Gonzalez 23

Average age of Venezuela: 26.07
Average age without goalkeeper: 25.76


Uruguays last team from vs Mexico: (includes substitutions made in game)


Fernando Muslera 29
Maximiliano Pereira 32
Diego Godin 30
Alvaro Pereira 30
Jose Gimenez 21
Egidio Arevalo 34
Nicolas Lodeiro 27
Carlos Sanchez 31
Matias Vecino 24
Edinson Cavani 29
Diego Rolan 23
Alvaro Gonzalez 31
Abel Hernandez 25
Gaston Ramizez 25

Avarage age of Uruguay: 27.92
Average age without goalkeeper: 27.84


Just for the fun, here is Mexicos from vs Uruguay:

Raul Jimenez 25
Jesus Duenas 27
Hirving Lozano 20
Javier Hernandex 28
Jesus Corona 23
Hector Herreira 26
Javier Aquino 26
Andres Guardado 29
Nestor Araujo 24
Diego Reyes 23
Miguel Layun 27
Hector Moreno 28
Rafael Marquez 37
Alfredo Talavera 33

Average age of Mexico 26.85
Average age without goalkeeper: 26.38

Mexico does have 2 olders players in cup (Rafael Marquez 37 and Alfredo Talavera 33)  but the other one is a goalkeeper who dont need to run in the field all the time.



I have no clue who is better, but Mexico vs Jamaica seems to be a more sure bet than this one.
Let the discussion begin!

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clacherholiday2
When: 09 Jun 16 18:10
Uruguay will win this game easily, did you not see the look in their eyes at the end of that Mexico game when they tried to fight the ref?

Theyll do anything to make sure that doesnt happen again.
By:
johnni
When: 09 Jun 16 20:24
Hmmmm yes i saw. But so far they have lost and Venezuela won. Hmmm going to be tough decision.
By:
clacherholiday2
When: 09 Jun 16 20:29
well thats why we have a betting exchange.

i think uruguay wrap this up before half time.
By:
johnni
When: 09 Jun 16 22:49
Less than 2 hours to go.


I have 3 cans of pepsi next. One I shall take now and watch some Jamaica-Venezuela and Mexico-Uruguay. After that let the mind relax a little with Alien - Resurrection movie.

Might be I wont make any bet in this match due to mixed feelings and after I laid Brazil yesterday Vs haiti which was dumbest thing ever.
By:
duffy
When: 09 Jun 16 22:59
not televised?
By:
johnni
When: 09 Jun 16 23:00
I downloaded those matches from internet.
By:
johnni
When: 09 Jun 16 23:00
Im re-watching them if I could learn something.
By:
mega88
When: 09 Jun 16 23:00
Johnny do you have a day job ?
By:
clacherholiday2
When: 09 Jun 16 23:01
premier sports are covering it, we've all been watching the tournament online
By:
clacherholiday2
When: 09 Jun 16 23:04
Uruguay into 4/6 now.

Ive got Uruguay and over2.5 at 5/2 Unibet, Uruguay win at HT 19/10 from Unibet earlier.

Hills still have Uruguay and Both Teams to Score on their site at 7/2 which is a fair price and I'll probably take.
By:
duffy
When: 09 Jun 16 23:04
not on the premier sports tv channel tonight though is it....ice hockey is on.
By:
mega88
When: 09 Jun 16 23:05
johnni • June 9, 2016 10:49 PM BST
Less than 2 hours to go.


I have 3 cans of pepsi next. One I shall take now and watch some Jamaica-Venezuela and Mexico-Uruguay. After that let the mind relax a little with Alien - Resurrection movie.

Might be I wont make any bet in this match due to mixed feelings and after I laid Brazil yesterday Vs haiti which was dumbest thing ever

Classic
By:
clacherholiday2
When: 09 Jun 16 23:05
uruguay HT/FT 19/10 that should be
By:
clacherholiday2
When: 09 Jun 16 23:06
not sure in that case duffy
By:
mega88
When: 09 Jun 16 23:07
I'm going in on Mexico game Heavy on goals
By:
johnni
When: 09 Jun 16 23:11
Im rewatching this Venezuela vs Jamaica game and venezuela actually does seem quite, not so good. Mexico won olympic football in 2012. Mexico had 7 players in Mexico Vs uruguay that they also had in olympics 2012.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_at_the_2012_Summer_Olympics

Im starting to see the football light, clarcher. It was the goal that came from Pereira (Uruguay) and gave Mexico their first goal that shook up the game.

Mexico was so good but even after red card at 45min, uruguay was able to keep mexico away.

No way im backing venezuela.

I think I might back Uruguay. Yes, theres no way Venezuela can win.
By:
johnni
When: 09 Jun 16 23:12
megaman: I also sens a lot of goals in Mexico game.
By:
johnni
When: 09 Jun 16 23:12
sorry i said you are megaman, it came automaticly lol=D
By:
johnni
When: 09 Jun 16 23:13
Jamaica is a dead fish in this match. 30 seconds before Venezuelas goal Jamaica is just standing there.
By:
johnni
When: 09 Jun 16 23:14
Yes I can see the light. Uruguay win, mexico 2.5 goals.
By:
johnni
When: 09 Jun 16 23:17
But this Time I also put some on 5.5. When it reaches 1.01
By:
TheChaser
When: 09 Jun 16 23:19
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(CONMEBOL)

Top v Bottom but not played yet in the Wc qualifiers
By:
BARNEY15C
When: 09 Jun 16 23:19
gone for +2.5 and +3.5 doubles (wasn't going to do the +3.5 but done small stakes on it)
By:
clacherholiday2
When: 09 Jun 16 23:20
Uruguay will start tonight like Peru did against Ecuador.

I wonder whos anthem theyll play tonight?  Tinidad and Tobago never qualified, maybe they can play theres for Uruguay.
By:
TheChaser
When: 09 Jun 16 23:22
Did they play wrong one last game
By:
clacherholiday2
When: 09 Jun 16 23:24
Mexico v URuguay they played the Chile anthem for Uruguay, the commentators didnt have a clue and said how disrespectful it was the fans booed the anthem.
By:
TheChaser
When: 09 Jun 16 23:26
Laugh

I heard something about booing but thought it was over a minute silence or something
By:
johnni
When: 09 Jun 16 23:27
Do any of you people ever make the right call but you watch the game and cashout like when you got 40% of money and not wait.

I have found out that I should stop watching the match after a well thought bet. I tend to be too nervous when I watch it and you know. Excited

Do you ever make the bet and dont even want to watch the game? So you dont "evacuate too early" (cashout, instead of keeping the bet to end).
By:
BARNEY15C
When: 09 Jun 16 23:28
At least it wasnt like when Members of the North Korean women's football team stormed off the field before their first match at the 2012 Olympics, when their faces were shown next to the South Korea flag on Hampden Park's video screen. LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
clacherholiday2
When: 09 Jun 16 23:29
Fernando Muslera
Jose Gimenez
Diego Godin
Alvaro Pereira
Maximiliano Pereira
Carlos Sanchez
Abel Hernandez
Gaston Ramirez
Nicolas Lodeiro
Alvaro Gonzalez
Edinson Cavani
Josef Martinez

abel hernandez in so theyre going 2 up front tonight, glad their stickign weith the atletico madrid center backs, means they dont need full backs and they can get forward Grin
By:
BARNEY15C
When: 09 Jun 16 23:29
i went to bed  and let it run last night... otherwise i would have been tempted to cash out too early..worked for me LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
TheChaser
When: 09 Jun 16 23:30
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not televised?


I think its the finals of NHL the games are shown after so not live on Premier but all other games are i think.
By:
clacherholiday2
When: 09 Jun 16 23:31
It doesnt matter how wel lthought out your bet is before a game, youre constantly getting new information when you watch in-play and can make better decisions.
By:
Jinkie
When: 09 Jun 16 23:35
Do you ever make the bet and dont even want to watch the game? So you dont "evacuate too early"


I've lost count of the number of bets that have made me evacuate too early.....
By:
BARNEY15C
When: 09 Jun 16 23:36
LOL nice one Jinkie LaughLaughLaugh
By:
johnni
When: 09 Jun 16 23:37
You are right but yesterday at Peru-Ecuador, I had bought 2-2 at odds 8. I cashed out at was it 2-1 and got 4 euros.

Also at Brazil-Haiti, I bought over 4.5 and cashed it out and made a loss.

I then bought 5.5 but cashed it out too and made a loss.

Then I bought some 7.5 and..cashed it too out for a loss. Losses were small, only 0.5e on 7.5. 5e on 5.5 and -3.5 on 4.5 goals.


As you see, if you watch the match you get new information but that part of my brain is still not totally under control. I can make good decisions beforehand if its 1 x 2 but overs/ unders market is not under my control.

I think im not going to watch Mexico - Jamaica. Instead I will put some on 3.5 and a little on 5.5.


I want to wake up to riches. I have done that in my dreams many times, i wake up and have won...then i wake up for real and find out it was a BLOODY DREAM.
By:
TheChaser
When: 09 Jun 16 23:39
I want to wake up to riches. Laugh

Dont we all
By:
jaykally
When: 09 Jun 16 23:41
Not on premier what a joke.  Has to be on a Uruguayan tv station I hope.  Johnny looks like Uruguay and mexico over 2.5
By:
BARNEY15C
When: 09 Jun 16 23:41
i woke up to a nice payout on +3.5 and +4.5 in the Brazil game - normally i would have cashed out making a few quid on each bet instead i had over £55 in the bank.
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