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this is starting at the weekend and while i am a football fan, my knowledge is nothing compared to the nerds on here who will proceed to provide me with an expert preview of everything copa americano.
it is on in america. suarez i believe will miss the group games due to a hamstring and neymar i believe is playing in the olympics instead.
this rules out brazil and uruguay for me...........surez will not be fully fit at any stage. brazil are now a joke outfit and without neymar are a big pile of nothing.
this is all i know folks...............looking at the 2018 world cup qual group for south america, Ecuador are level on top with uraguay.......................CAN THE NERDS OUT THERE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THE MIGHTY NATION OF ECUADOR ARE 33/1?
aregntina are 2/1 which i would not touch because aguero and higuain NEVER TURN UP FOR THE ARGIES..............also, messi has not had a good season BY HIS STANDARD FOLKS.............
guys............please give me insight into ecuador and anything else
it is on in america. suarez i believe will miss the group games due to a hamstring and neymar i believe is playing in the olympics instead.
this rules out brazil and uruguay for me...........surez will not be fully fit at any stage. brazil are now a joke outfit and without neymar are a big pile of nothing.
this is all i know folks...............looking at the 2018 world cup qual group for south america, Ecuador are level on top with uraguay.......................CAN THE NERDS OUT THERE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THE MIGHTY NATION OF ECUADOR ARE 33/1?
aregntina are 2/1 which i would not touch because aguero and higuain NEVER TURN UP FOR THE ARGIES..............also, messi has not had a good season BY HIS STANDARD FOLKS.............
guys............please give me insight into ecuador and anything else
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Ecuador are generally very strong at home where they play at altitude, but are usually hopeless away from home. They did win 2-0 in Argentina in the current qualification group, don't know if that was a freak result or whether they are genuine contenders though?
They groups for WC 2016 mean sh1t until the last 5-6 games
WC 2018 *
Argie or Chile to win it again imo ,Unless Mexico have taken a team that can compete they have about 5-6 different sides
Argie or Chile to win it again imo ,Unless Mexico have taken a team that can compete they have about 5-6 different sides
Argie always start slow in WC qualifiers then they start using their top team , i Think Messi has only played a few games out the 6 so far.They don;t need to win every game.
Messi got injured in a friendly last week and will miss out on the first group matches.
It wont matter much, higuain was superb that night and aguero will be leading the line at the competition, should get through easily.
I mentioned Mexico in another thread, theyre taking a very strong squad with them, about as strong as it can be. Whenever they play in America its like a home match, there will be 30k mexicans at every game.
If argentina were over 3/1 I'd be on them to win but at only 2/1 you have to look down towards USA and Mexico for the next best, Chile I wouldve included but after watching them lose 2-1 at home to Jamaica the other night I have no confidence in them at all. Brazil are a joke and will probably lose 7-1 to Germany in the semi final, Suarez missing the start of the tournament for Uruguay is a huge problem for them.
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/copa-america/copa-america-2016/top-goalscorer
javier hernandez 33/1
It wont matter much, higuain was superb that night and aguero will be leading the line at the competition, should get through easily.
I mentioned Mexico in another thread, theyre taking a very strong squad with them, about as strong as it can be. Whenever they play in America its like a home match, there will be 30k mexicans at every game.
If argentina were over 3/1 I'd be on them to win but at only 2/1 you have to look down towards USA and Mexico for the next best, Chile I wouldve included but after watching them lose 2-1 at home to Jamaica the other night I have no confidence in them at all. Brazil are a joke and will probably lose 7-1 to Germany in the semi final, Suarez missing the start of the tournament for Uruguay is a huge problem for them.
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/copa-america/copa-america-2016/top-goalscorer
javier hernandez 33/1
Is Suarez a miss for Uruguay? Seem to remember they won 3-0 in Colombia without him
Usually I'd be interested in the Copa, but the whole thing seems a bit of a joke. Why is it a year after the last one? Why should any of the big guns care? Agree about Mexico though. They can give any side a game, and unlike normally happens, they've taken a proper team
Usually I'd be interested in the Copa, but the whole thing seems a bit of a joke. Why is it a year after the last one? Why should any of the big guns care? Agree about Mexico though. They can give any side a game, and unlike normally happens, they've taken a proper team
We're still waiting on that nerds opinion the OP was looking for. Where is Mega88 anyway? Will a clueless, potless nerd suffice, OP?
Starts tonight, USA v Columbia.
really tough match but looking forward to the late night games coming up, tired of watching dross this past fortnight.
really tough match but looking forward to the late night games coming up, tired of watching dross this past fortnight.
i wonder how we'd come out at the end of the tournament if we level staked the draw on every game
Why is it a year after the last one?
It's the 100th anniversary of the first one
It's the 100th anniversary of the first one
Jun 3, 2016 -- 2:06PM, Muntz Street wrote:
Why is it a year after the last one?It's the 100th anniversary of the first one
It's a money-grab under the guise of an anniversary celebration :)
Really looking at this USA side, it could be their weakest squad for a while, I dont think that will translate into getting beat every game but I sure as hell wont be backing them against anyone.
35 degrees in san jose california todaym at least they learned their lesson from the 1994 world cup where the played games in roasting heat in the middle of the day
35 degrees in san jose california todaym at least they learned their lesson from the 1994 world cup where the played games in roasting heat in the middle of the day
The majoity of games were played in the middle of the day during the '94 World Cup in order to cater to the European TV audiences
ive a few bets in mind for this later but i wont be able to do anything until nearer kick off when i see whos starting, really looking forward to it.
columbia comfortably the better side but the yanks will go out and die on the pitcj for a result, the prices are all about right, a diplomatic draw could be on the cards. depends how the USA line up, if they go with just one up top ill be all over the draw.
columbia comfortably the better side but the yanks will go out and die on the pitcj for a result, the prices are all about right, a diplomatic draw could be on the cards. depends how the USA line up, if they go with just one up top ill be all over the draw.
http://downloads.footballformlabs.com/
strategies/2016%20Copa%20America%20.pdf
97 page in depth preview of everything possible really
strategies/2016%20Copa%20America%20.pdf
97 page in depth preview of everything possible really
jesus christ, 97 pages. do they come to any conclusions i can skip to 
This section about the travelling distances is excellent, i wonder how much of a factor that plays with the teams. there must be past tournaments we can look at to see if its affected results?
I'm glad to see them mention Mexico and Hernandez, I was looking to back both on price alone but these guys reaosning is sound.
Carlos Bacca is a guy I've won backing a few times this year, I'm plannign to do something with im in tonights game but I guess outright top scorer isnt crazy.
Carlos Bacca is a guy I've won backing a few times this year, I'm plannign to do something with im in tonights game but I guess outright top scorer isnt crazy.
their reasoning is pretty solid and in depth for everything. they had a good one for the last wc and it predicted an arg v ger final. no the most unpredictable thing i suppose. they sell software for football and give these guides out for free to plug it. never tried the software
I'm hoping for a Goals Goals Goals Tournament, starting with the usa game, ht score 2-0 2-1 2-2 1-2 0-2 1-1 auq, also correct score 3-2 2-3 3-3 auq, over 3.5 and 4.5 good luck xxx
Just paid the £11.99 subs to Premier Sports to watch Copa America games....was about to ask if anyone else had done the same & how long it took to get access to the channel but its come on within couple of minutes
Argentina can't not be the clear favourites given the strength of their squad - but needless to say that their lack of cohesion, chemistry and generally crap defence means that they're quite capable of mucking it all up.
Theyre easily the best side and should be coming into this as World Cup winners but the price is too short.
That pdf above with the travel info could play a role, finishing 2nd in their group gives them far better chances later i nthe tournament.
That pdf above with the travel info could play a role, finishing 2nd in their group gives them far better chances later i nthe tournament.
laystheway
04 Jun 16 00:03
I'm hoping for a Goals Goals Goals Tournament, starting with the usa game, ht score 2-0 2-1 2-2 1-2 0-2 1-1 auq, also correct score 3-2 2-3 3-3 auq, over 3.5 and 4.5 good luck xxx
anythign spossible but i wouldnt hold your breath tonight if the USA have their way.
04 Jun 16 00:03
I'm hoping for a Goals Goals Goals Tournament, starting with the usa game, ht score 2-0 2-1 2-2 1-2 0-2 1-1 auq, also correct score 3-2 2-3 3-3 auq, over 3.5 and 4.5 good luck xxx
anythign spossible but i wouldnt hold your breath tonight if the USA have their way.
ive backed chile.............no idea why but just did anyway. thanks for the comments.
Colombia XI: Ospina, Arias, Zapata, Murillo, Diaz; Perez, Torres, Cuadrado, James, Cardona, Bacca. #USAvCOL
Tonight’s lineup: Brad Guzan; DeAndre Yedlin, Geoff Cameron, John Brooks, Fabian Johnson; Alejandro Bedoya, Michael Bradley, Jermaine Jones; Gyasi Zardes, Clint Dempsey, Bobby Wood
This mob would get **** all over on neutral territory
This mob would get **** all over on neutral territory
this openning ceremony is a bit lacklustre to say the least 
Clacher, what do you think of the US team attacking wise?? Is this a more positive Klinsmann side than usual?
looks the same 433 they set up with in their friendlies tbh. depends how stuffy they want to make the midfield
Always been a goal man and think this will produce them, well I hope they will. Unquoted HT Score, Heavy ovrs and tapered down to 4.5
looking at how that div jurgen klinsmann has set up i can only see goals
Jun 4, 2016 -- 2:35AM, ewood wrote:
Gone both teams to score...think evens is reasonable price
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Jun 4, 2016 -- 2:38AM, clacherholiday2 wrote:
looking at how that div jurgen klinsmann has set up i can only see goals
cheers clacher. I took a FH goal on this advice
thank god it is 55 mins past the hour, playing on stars so a quick break from my tourneys to watch properly
columbia look like they can score whenever they want, theyve only gone forward a couple of times. the yanks panic at the back, lashing the ball into the stands any chance they get
thats utter bullshit, no way is that a handball, thats a terrible decision
Was always a worry about US scoring for me.....not much creativity......think Zardes is their best bet of making something happen....wish they played Bradley further upfield too.....he's best passer in their team
Good thing about the ref giving that pen is that he will give one for US for any kind of handball too
whenever theyve been pressing the columbians theyve found space, just missing one final pass or cross.
they havent hit a low powerful cross yet, everythigns been the floaty **** to the back post i cant stand.
im still in shock at that decision for the pen, feel terrible for the americans as theyve given it a go.
they havent hit a low powerful cross yet, everythigns been the floaty **** to the back post i cant stand.
im still in shock at that decision for the pen, feel terrible for the americans as theyve given it a go.
Jun 4, 2016 -- 3:21AM, ewood wrote:
Was always a worry about US scoring for me.....not much creativity......think Zardes is their best bet of making something happen....wish they played Bradley further upfield too.....he's best passer in their team
they have to go for it now, first game in any tourney have to get the win. Nothing to lose for them now and they have been good and creative, lacking final ball
Jun 4, 2016 -- 3:23AM, ewood wrote:
Good thing about the ref giving that pen is that he will give one for US for any kind of handball too
Yeah set his stall out now, most wouldnt have
Jun 4, 2016 -- 3:24AM, clacherholiday2 wrote:
whenever theyve been pressing the columbians theyve found space, just missing one final pass or cross. they havent hit a low powerful cross yet, everythigns been the floaty **** to the back post i cant stand. im still in shock at that decision for the pen, feel terrible for the americans as theyve given it a go.
spot on mate, that whippy, floaty stuff is bread and butter for defenders. Columbia reverting to form, counter attack football. 2 maybe 3 goals at the death of this game left
meat and drink for the keeper they used to say. when you look at how protected keepers are these days when making challenges, why put balls into the box that encourage them to sprint out and barrel through your forwards to catch it?
the one replay theyve shown here the defender didnt touch the ball.
its not up to the ref to even things up but at least that does even things up
its not up to the ref to even things up but at least that does even things up
the americans are getting frustrated.
are they ever getting a proper manager to deal with this stuff?
are they ever getting a proper manager to deal with this stuff?
zardes for USA and Cuardrado for Columbia two best players on the pitch, and where they are both playing the other teams defence is so exposed. Expect Zardes to create USA first goal and Cuardrado to wrap the game up by making the 4th and maybe 5th goal for Columbia
Decent save - US pushing now.
One more at least would be aces
One more at least would be aces
ive only got one ****g bet here, bacca anytime for columbia, hes barely had a touch second half
any team first game of any tourney, world cup, euros, africa nations, copa etc you must win your first game, granted not the be all but good for morale, sets your stall out and other teams fear you, jurgen knows this hence the subs they going all out now, 2-0 down nothing to lose. In doing so columbia should capatilise
whats the point of staying on if youve just had a dislocated shoulder? its not like they can get knocked out of the tournament tonight, take him off and rest him
deffo one more in this hopefully two. those types of one on ones got to go low and hard with minimal lift
If those muggers hadnt got in each other's way, that might have been it
still time left for overs backers but they shoudlve been weighed in by now
ive no idea how ive lost money on this. saw this result coming a long way.
easy to say now but could easily have had ht/ft, handicaps, 90 mins and correct score instead of tryign to pick a scorer.
easy to say now but could easily have had ht/ft, handicaps, 90 mins and correct score instead of tryign to pick a scorer.
Silly boy should have traded out after the pen for 70% ish profit. As we all know with that much time left you exect another.
Decent game, despite the lack of a third. Hopefully the rest of the games are that open.
1st time ive seen US since Concacaf Cup but nothing has changed. Lack of quality & lack of creativity and still the tendency to concede. Colombia matched them for workrate & then their superior quality was the difference. US look like they have a mountain to climb if they go one down in a game.
I really think americas problem is the manager, hes been there far too long and hes always come accross as a bit clueless when challenged.
agree with milla445, p1ssed off at myself for losing but if the rest of the tournament goes the same way as last night we'll all win a few bets and have some great matches.
Yes there are live streams. I find them with google. I type search terms: live stream and then who is vs who. Get much of results.
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/ go on here before kick off
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