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21 Apr 16 09:35
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There will be a round three as the prosecution are going to pursue another trial.

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By:
Crisp77
When: 21 Apr 16 09:51
"Sometimes the complaints will be false" Plain
By:
salmon spray
When: 21 Apr 16 09:58
There's not that much dispute as to what happened is there ? The question is more whether it amounted to rape or not.
By:
TheChaser
When: 21 Apr 16 11:25
Jennifer Ellis getting ready to apologise
By:
TheChaser
When: 21 Apr 16 11:25
Jennifer Ennis
By:
ebulGery
When: 21 Apr 16 11:29
I hope he can continue playing

I believe he was innocent, it was never rape
By:
deepdale
When: 21 Apr 16 11:33
What happens if he gets found guilty again though regarding sentencing. Does he just get 5 years again and he's free to go because he's served his time? Potentially could get more or less than 5 years, what happens then?
By:
Mike-lfc
When: 21 Apr 16 11:43

Apr 21, 2016 -- 11:25AM, TheChaser wrote:


Jennifer Ennis


*Jessica

By:
TheChaser
When: 21 Apr 16 11:51
got mixed up with names due im sure you will not hold it against me

http://www.football.co.uk/img/wags/jennifer_ellison/jennifer_ellison_1.jpg
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TheChaser
When: 21 Apr 16 11:53
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What happens if he gets found guilty again though regarding sentencing. Does he just get 5 years again and he's free to go because he's served his time? Potentially could get more or less than 5 years, what happens then?
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He won't be but if he did it would be back to jail i think , he was released early and showed no remorse so why was he even released?
By:
salmon spray
When: 21 Apr 16 11:53
I don't think anybody will be apologising. There's no doubt that Evans' behaviour was dredfully sleazy. It's whether it was criminal,or criminal enough to amount to rape.
By:
TheChaser
When: 21 Apr 16 11:53
Sleazy is not illegal
By:
TheChaser
When: 21 Apr 16 11:55
Ennis on Santander Christmas adverts is also sleazy and shes all about money and publicity , She jumped on the Tyson Fury hate campaign also did she not.
By:
Crisp77
When: 21 Apr 16 11:58
Those who thought his football career was over may have been hasty. It looks like he is turning down Sheffield United. Mischief
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 21 Apr 16 12:00
ouch for the ched evans haters on here!!! the whole thing was a joke from day 1
By:
salmon spray
When: 21 Apr 16 12:02
There's sleazy and there's SLEAZY. I didn't say being sleaszy or even SLEAZY makes it criminal. The girl said she couldn't remember what happened so the original jury decided she was not fit to give her consent. Whether that makes it safe to convict is presumably why there is a re-trial but if he is found not guilty most people will still regard him as a sc**b*g.
By:
donny osmond
When: 21 Apr 16 12:21
it is not the law being retried, it is the evidence, now that new evidence is available
By:
TheChaser
When: 21 Apr 16 12:24
maybe the video of them spying in the windows

sleazy may pull off
By:
TheChaser
When: 21 Apr 16 12:25
Just think why was he released after 2.5 years and showed no remorse , that means he should do full time no? It was obviously all set up for the re-trial
By:
salmon spray
When: 21 Apr 16 12:31
It does seem new evidence has appeared. Be interesting to see what that is as my understanding was there was no great conflict over what took place.
By:
donny osmond
When: 21 Apr 16 12:32
i dont think so chaser, i just think its taken them a long time to get new evidence

he has issued an apology , whilst maintaining his belief he is innocent
By:
donny osmond
When: 21 Apr 16 12:33
i dont think we can post what the new evidence is, but there was some
talk about some evidence they were hoping to obtain before the appeal
was granted, and it is possibly that
By:
TheChaser
When: 21 Apr 16 12:34
I mean before he left jail would he not have to sit and admit it to get half the time
By:
TheChaser
When: 21 Apr 16 12:35
For rape anyway i would expect this to be the case as he would have to show he is no threat to the public , denying it for 2.5 year in jail is not showing the release board or whatever you call it you wont rape again.
By:
TheChaser
When: 21 Apr 16 12:37
I thought you had to admit guilt and it was a mistake and all that?
By:
donny osmond
When: 21 Apr 16 12:37
i think our jails are simplt too full chaser and early release is a must

surely judges know this when they pass sentence !
By:
donny osmond
When: 21 Apr 16 12:37
simply
By:
TheChaser
When: 21 Apr 16 12:40
Feck knows very strange 2 and a half years for rape and not even admit it to get out early
By:
deepdale
When: 21 Apr 16 12:41
No mate, for determinate sentences ie not life with a minimum term of X, half time is what you serve. No need to fess up, apologise etc. Prisons full of innocent people though haha
By:
leazes67
When: 21 Apr 16 12:43
A timely warning lads..be very careful,there are some truly vindictive people(mostly women} working for the CPS and the police.only last week 4 lads had a  lucky escape as police and prosecutors withheld evidence that would have cleared them.2 years of their lives made hell by these people.
By:
salmon spray
When: 21 Apr 16 12:44
It's difficult to comment if there is new evidence. I suspect Evans may genuinely consider himself not guilty as the girl may have said yes and presumably didn't say no. However she said that she was so drunk she couldn't remember and there was CCTV evidence that suggested it was plausible that was true. So it became an interesting legal case. Whether the new evidence changes that we'll have to see.
By:
ebulGery
When: 21 Apr 16 12:45
I agree Ched Evans morals were pretty woeful....I could not defend them

But in my opinion this was not rape, because she consented to sex,

Evans took advantage of this women when her defences were very low, this makes him a cad, but not a rapist

I agree leazes I think that is happening as well.
By:
TheChaser
When: 21 Apr 16 12:56
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No mate, for determinate sentences ie not life with a minimum term of X, half time is what you serve. No need to fess up, apologise etc. Prisons full of innocent people though haha


I nearly ended up there but got CS for an absolute pathetic charge of assaulting a police officer but it got dropped to something lower RESISTING ARREST , they feckers wanted me jailed.
By:
TheChaser
When: 21 Apr 16 12:57
Lucky they never found what they was looking for Laugh
By:
akabula
When: 21 Apr 16 13:16
However she said that she was so drunk she couldn't remember and there was CCTV evidence that suggested it was plausible that was true.

Needs to be more than plausible surely. Easy get out for her.
By:
Westender
When: 21 Apr 16 13:18

Apr 21, 2016 -- 11:51AM, TheChaser wrote:


got mixed up with names due im sure you will not hold it against mehttp://www.football.co.uk/img/wags/jennifer_ellison/jennifer_ellison_1.jpg


Know how you feel chaser - it is hard remembering the names of all the nice women we jump

By:
akabula
When: 21 Apr 16 13:28
He was getting Jessica Ennis and Jennifer Saunders mixed up.
By:
TheChaser
When: 21 Apr 16 13:57
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Apr 21, 2016 -- 11:51AM, TheChaser wrote:

got mixed up with names due im sure you will not hold it against mehttp://www.football.co.uk/img/wags/jennifer_ellison/jennifer_ellison_1.jpg

Know how you feel chaser - it is hard remembering the names of all the nice women we jump
Laugh
By:
TheChaser
When: 21 Apr 16 13:57
Saunders i would use as a phucking punch bag cant stand her
By:
akabula
When: 21 Apr 16 14:06
I thought she'd be your type as well Chaser. You know a Rock fillie. Laugh
Hows the band coming on. I could o got you the gig for the Queens bash if you'd asked.
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