Bet 653 - Grande Nationale

Agree placed my bets earlier, best company out there for giving something back to its punters

yes I've just put £250 on , get £125 back , great value

Same as you patches, I done 10 horses 12.50 each way

cmon then Kelly give us the heads up which ones did u pic ?? one of them Just a Par ??

Weighed in myself as well. Their offers are great. So are Sky bets if you're not restricted. I had one the other day, bet £100 over 2 nights on champs league football and get a free £50 bet for the Europa. Made £200 off it.

Ive done this one earlier aswell, £125ew on Many Clouds and laid some of it off on here for a free bet.

I dont know **** about horses so happy to back the fav for a free bet.  £325 for a win, £125 for a place and £0 for a loss.


So somebody tell me who knows about the horse markets, is it the case that all of the place prices are way out of line because all the bookies have stupid offers on the national?  Is there sense in backing these place prices blind?

Just thought there, I could win more than those numbers if it does place or win, the price has already drifted out at least 1 point.  Great offer if you can get on.

Kruzhlinin @ 25/1 will win.

No nothing about horses , I take it you lay off on the betfair 5 places market for this bet , yes ?

You've probably already done but no, lay off the to be placed market. If your nag comes fifth you win both bets and make a nice tidy sum.

Just looking for a free bet, small win for place, big win for 1st. Some saying you have to lay the win part of the bet as well as the place, don't understand why?

What's the offer?

Got the email but don't punt much so binned it and is there a way to lay off on here for zero risk?

Yes. Lay off the win and to be placed markets to cover your stake. Your profit comes from your 50% refund.

You don't have to lay of the win though, if you just lay the 5 place, the bet just costs you a few pounds, but win big if a winner, no?

Apr 9, 2016 -- 11:21AM, Ovalman. wrote:

What's the offer? Got the email but don't punt much so binned it and is there a way to lay off on here for zero risk?

Get half your stake back on ew bets upto £250

Thanks, seen the PM when I logged in. Done £50 worth of bets, now to lay them off.

About 3 months ago I was matched betting regularly (matchedbettingblog.com) but the offers dried up after XMas and I stopped. I was making around £200 PM from them so decent pocket money. Got banned from promotions on PP which also kicked me in the teeth (the same time they merged with Betfair.) I should start again.

I've seen people in here mock matched bettors. The fact is it is the only way to guarantee profit.

Fck it, backed the fav Many Clouds, think I win about £600 if it wins, .................

The fact is it is the only way to guarantee profit.

And drastically limit winnings! Don't get me wrong laying off obv has it's place but this 'guaranteed profit' thing that many (younger) seem to need to do with every bet makes me laugh. Time and a place.

Don't bookies restrict your account if you win constantly

Matched betting is an easy way to exploit the bookies, seem like a losing punter and fit their "ideal customer".

I'm a shrewd punter not a mug punter.

logged into my 365 account for a laugh, can have £1.50 on most of
the Grand National runners - No offer either as expected

Placed a few bets up to £120, so they refund half stake after the race?

Seems a bit odd this one as they know people can lay off for no loss

Apr 9, 2016 -- 12:16PM, Ron-Russian wrote:

logged into my 365 account for a laugh, can have £1.50 on most ofthe Grand National runners - No offer either as expected

Offer ended at 12.00 today.

It's not really their concern that you can lay off, as long as your bet with them goes down.

Matched bettors are organised and bet methodically which the bookies don't like. They want punters who will gamble on 2 flies on a wall, spin the casino and mug bet all round. I haven't done a punt since XMas, I'm sure my bets today will throw up a flag.

I get that just wondering why as giving half stake back is a sure fire loser for them. So they give half back on losers after the race then? As not had anything bk after placing

you get back 1/2 your stakes on e.w. selections about up to 2 hrs after placing them
the result is incidental
as has been posted offer ended at 1200
fair play to them
you can withdraw the returned stakes
don't have to bet with them

I'm guessing it's a loss leader.

Remember promotions are there to reward the site, not just you. I spoke to a Betfair rep one time about poker freerolls and he said there was a direct correlation between players playing them and net deposits. Guess that's why all sites run them.

it is a blinding offer. presumably its all about making a permanent link between value and 365 in punters minds. i cant remember when i last had an offer from sadblokes, and i only go there when i have a specific reason for doing so eg someone has flagged a price or a market......never to check prices.

recently, 365s pre match footy prices have been top notch value, both with and without their £50 free bet offers......makes sense to bet there rather than BFEX as the prices are often similar if not the same

I just checked oddschecker and Many Clouds is 10.5 on Betfair and 9.0 on 365. If this offer wasn't on then it makes more sense to back with Betfair even with 5% commission. I think it's stupid tying yourself to any site which is what these promotions are intended.

Great offer, got all my family n friends bets on the national with it, here w
Happy they're only paying half for there bets!

yes on it also

I havent even bothered laying off, I figure I should get two of them in the top 5 out of 10 horses

Last Samurai 12s
Ucello conti 33s
Kruzihilin 33s
Druids Nephew 16s
Just a Par 50s
Rule the World 50s
Double Ross 100s
Vics Canvas 100s
Gallant Oscar 18s
Morning Assembly 25s

they are the best by miles for offers so fair play to them.

but they choose their markets carefully - e/w betting in the National is a bookies benefit - they know it, even if you don't or have forgotten

dam...to late.....ovalman......will u buy me a fish supper from johnnys chips on the hollywoodrd with ure winnings

I'll get you one out of the Bethany instead

Done my first mug bet of the year as well, backed all 6 games in the Irish league to draw in a Lucky 63. Every team is playing a team either 1 place above or below them, not much at stake for some while too much at stake for others. I think it's worth a small punt.

Apr 9, 2016 -- 1:29PM, Ovalman. wrote:

I just checked oddschecker and Many Clouds is 10.5 on Betfair and 9.0 on 365. If this offer wasn't on then it makes more sense to back with Betfair even with 5% commission. I think it's stupid tying yourself to any site which is what these promotions are intended.

Except it doesn't if your already in the BF Super Tax bracket, or if you are anticipating/hope to be in the BF Super Tax bracket in the next few years.

Apr 9, 2016 -- 1:55PM, kellydamo wrote:

I havent even bothered laying off, I figure I should get two of them in the top 5 out of 10 horses

Same here.....bargain bet.....let it ride!!!

see they put there prices up this week....ovalman

Ah rite forgot about the PC, I play poker and don't punt much.

The oddschecker odds are after commission so Betfair is still far superior than any other site if your a low stakes punter.

Betfair is still far superior than any other site if your a mugg punter.

And how much did Paddy Power splunk up the wall with a TV ad where the amazing promotion was.........we pay top 5 ew in the National. I reckon they got precisely zero extra business from that ad. And zero extra goodwill. Whereas 365 have their very own thread about their promotion on the Paddy Power Betfair forum

Anyone had their refund back yet? Nothing for me.

expect it a couple of hours after the race

Supposed to be a couple hours after placing bet.

who told you that?

It's in the t & c's

The offer will not apply where all or part of a bet has been Cashed Out. Refunds will be credited to your account within 2 hours of bet placement.

Hopefully just slow because of the popularity and not because I've made a coont of it.

Told my daughter about the offer, did the offer stand until 12.00 today or 12 midnight yesterday? can't remember. Money not in her account yet, but by looks of other posts maybe put in later.

Apr 9, 2016 -- 3:33PM, badjoe wrote:

It's in the t & c's The offer will not apply where all or part of a bet has been Cashed Out. Refunds will be credited to your account within 2 hours of bet placement.

Refunds will be credited to your account within 2 hours of bet placement. Yes I see it now.

Yesterdays credits were made 16 seconds after my bets were placed. This mornings bets not credited yet.

I got refunded half my stake within an hour of taking the offer last night. Great offer. Can`t see how they can gain out of that.

theyre playing the long game

do they tell you when they've credited your account (in your messages) ?

Don't think I've been credited yet but I'm not sure cos I don't remember what my balance was exactly before I placed the bets.

No Platini, just goes back within 2 hours. Might be longer today though.

look in history/account adjustments. todays are credited now as well.

Feck Bet365 and feck the Grande Bookmakers Profits National

paddys still advertising their shoite 1-2-3-4-5 offer on C4 in probably the most expensive slot of the afternoon

Nothing under account adjustments. Looks like they haven't paid me.

Nothing for me either, they will probably just lump it in with my winnings

Mine says Platini's Grand National Offer GL701664786543T Refunded

Not too bothered now. Only invested £8 in little bets

but one of them was a quid e/w on RTW at 50/1

tenner ew RTW 365 already paid out

Brilliant. WD Froggitt

Got my refund at least

Apr 9, 2016 -- 2:07PM, kellydamo wrote:

Last Samurai 12sUcello conti 33sKruzihilin 33sDruids Nephew 16sJust a Par 50sRule the World 50s Double Ross 100sVics Canvas 100sGallant Oscar 18sMorning Assembly 25s

£842.60 from this promotion thanks

Apr 9, 2016 -- 5:43PM, Froggitt wrote:

tenner ew RTW  365 already paid out

Well done mate had £12.50 as well

Been paid out on RTW

still waiting on my half-refund from the other e/w bet (still unsettled)

C'mon Mr Settler, that extra £3 might come in handy

brilliant KD, very well done.

Cheers Platini

Well done everyone