Juventus are over 4/1 to beat an overrated City side without Aguero

think you'll find it's the usual 4-2-3-1 but meh

Juve are over priced imo.
City's still got Q to answer in the Big League imo.
Thought they were lucky to get the win over Palace at the wkend.

Score draw for me 2nite.

Juventus a perennial slow starters in the ChLge
They lost both opening away games last year - didn't lose a single away game after Christmas
apart from the Final, despite much harder opposition

Juve have been poor and disorganised this season (one win)
and an excellent Chievo should have beaten them at home on Sat
but for the poor ref disallowing a great header, when the Juve player fell over
wrestling the advancing 'scorer'

Man City could coast this tonight

Perennial slow starters just because they started badly last season? Aguero will be a big miss.

Perennial slow starters just because they started badly last season?

Juventus 1 win, both home and away, in Sept and Oct, this decade (Malmo at home)

Who will take pens and free kicks for juve nowadays

slow starters and they love a draw

This game is going to be very easy for Man City. The fact the Aguero isn't playing will give Juventus misguided confidence. Yaya Toure & Sterling to Score.

Citi are overated juve are gash nowadays unders and draw

I think it's all going to come down to how much Manchester City want it and how much they're prepared to risk. They only just about qualified for the round of 16 last season last season in a group that wasn't very strong, and the season before (?) when they were in the group with Ajax they never really looked like they had had much confidence, either. If they show more ambition tonight, I think they'll win. Juventus looked devoid of ideas in attack against Udinese and Chievo and defensively they were all over the place at times, looking very disorganized. Pirlo, Tévez, Vidal and Llorente are all gone and Juve look nothing like the team they were last season. With their home record, Manchester City should do enough to at least score and if they score the opening goal, they really should score again -- but only if they show some b*lls.

If Juve are slow starters in the CL what does that make City Still waiting for them to get started after 4 years imo

When do they ever beat a top side without Aguero ? Him and Hart are usually the only people preventing humiliation.

all the above is the reason why City will win tonight

City have the better team with Aguero fit but the two best goalscorers on the pitch tonight, Dybala and Morata both play for Juve

think city will win 1 or 2-0

homw win for me

cmon Juve smash these European chokers.

City look so nervous

fouling chokers.

Boom, now city can let in a late winner in their full european choker style

Terminal Champions League losers.

Im so surprised, you surprised ?


the biggest chokers in european football.

How much have they spent and a its injured aguero to the rescue... Taxi for pellegrini

They would need to have some kind of European pedigree to be considered chokers, they never beat anyone, they are just consistently bad

If they go out early of the champs league again that might depress them for the league, in which case Pelligrini will be in trouble

Surely off at the end of the season anyway when Pep comes knocking

Manc City's price was one of the worst I've ever seen pre kick-off

you cant have players like fernandinho, Mangala, Bony,Nasri and Kolarov () and expect to be decent in europe.

Yeah Chelsea v City for pep

epl best league in the world? both english sides lost tonight while the 3 spanish teams won 2-0 3-0 and 4-0.

it's a continuation of the form from the last 3/4 seasons.

If they go out early of the champs league again that might depress them for the league, in which case Pelligrini will be in trouble

Surely off at the end of the season anyway when Pep comes knocking


Pep's a done deal !

epl is behind spain germany italy and psg.

in the last transfer window epl sides spent over double spent in la liga.

Pep can take his pick from Chelsea, City probably United too. Might even consider Bayern too

another poor season for english clubs and the 4th CL place is gone. italy right behind them in the table

cant wait till the epl loses its 4th qualifying spot.

Yep that is coming.

Would help if Liverpool or Spurs did something in the Europa but they will likely play reserves in that to concentrate on 4th place.

When they finally get 4th they will find it is only worth a Europa League place.

spain have 5 teams in this season. real barca atletico sevilla valencia.

I can't remember the last time an English team lost to a dutch team.

city's continued poor performances beggar belief really. can't think of them looking remotely convincing in any game against proper european giants in well over double figure attempts now

city lost to a poor ajax side 2 or 3 years ago

man utd will go out. psv and wolfsburg will qualify.

julian draxler is ace.

city in dire trouble now in such a strong group. winning 3 games out of 5 from here will be tough

Don't want Pep at Chelsea tobermory personally don't rate him

yeah just seen the other 2 teams are sevilla and m'gladbach. city all but out!

juve and sevilla will go through.

Apart from Sevilla and Juventus away ... the rest of their games are quite winnable tbf

Only had one eye on this game as I was watching the PSV/Manchester United game, but especially after going in front I expected City to show some cojones. Didn't happen, did it? They gave Juve the impression that there was still something to be had, and they took it.

Never going anywhere if you play with your tail between your legs.

Forza Juve!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw8c0OsynFg

If they beat the Germans home and away, beat Sevilla at home 9 points not enough

They have to hope and pray Aguero is fit for all those games.

m'gladbach are really shiit I watched most of that match even City should be ok beating them

well done mesmerised - I couldn't have it at any time, bel;ieved in City right to the end.  But i'm fully cured now thanks to this evening.

good finishing beats bad finishing

at this level it is as simple as that

10 points is about the maximum they could realistically get from those 5 games and they'll have play unbelievably well to get them

the only team to beat seville at home last season in all competitions was real ,and they where lucky . so good luck city ,i would also like to point out to the epl teams that the winner of the uefa cup now gets into the champions league ,so no excuses for not fielding good teams or treating it like a second rate comp

city only scored from a set piece, an epl special and it was a foul.

sorry you meant beat seville in city

Only desperatemunter is man enough to give credit where it's due, tbf I tipped so many winners people probably can't be bothered to massage my ego anymore, hope you got on

well said !!!

another losing bet from mugmerised, not sure what odds 0-3 was but City were always likely to score

A bit touchy mover, the tip was with the referenced price on match odds, as for the prediction on goals, I said Juve would score three goals, and they did

haha
love it,  I dont recall a city player scoring either
wd mes
only went with the dc myself at 2.18, sorry i wasnt braver