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10 Aug 15 18:43
Date Joined: 12 Aug 10
| Topic/replies: 43,542 | Blogger: Solano1's blog
Seems to be plenty of chat, not least from Jose, about the amount of money being spent / quality of players being signed by mid table sides:

Payet to West Ham
Ayew to Swansea
Wijnaldum to Newcastle
Shaqiri to Stoke
Firminio to Liverpool

Etc, etc.

Will this make the league more competitive, as Jose suggests?
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Report grayhawk August 10, 2015 7:13 PM BST
How many are you expecting Solano?
Report donny osmond August 10, 2015 7:17 PM BST
a ferry load
Report Hamsterdam August 10, 2015 9:07 PM BST
Some of the lesser teams are buying players that could play for top 4 sides. All due to the new money I suppose. The French League in particular has been raided of almost all it's talent. Add Jordan Amavi Villa left back to that list btw.
Report Solano1 August 11, 2015 7:14 AM BST
I think you've misread the 'mid table' criteria, Hamster.  If I extended it to the bottom clubs, I'd also have to give a notable mention to Lens at Sunderland. 

Tbf, I did miss Cabaye at Palace in respect of your point on the French League.
Report rothko August 11, 2015 11:58 AM BST
newcastle are not a mid table side - they were bottom 6 last year
Report DIE LINKE August 11, 2015 12:05 PM BST
don't think any of the smaller clubs have signed anyone the Top 4 would be remotely interested in and they are certainly paying over the odds.
Report Can't Catch Me August 11, 2015 12:18 PM BST
Not sure I agree with that Die Linke. There are a few players that the bigger sides might like. Think Wijnaldum, Payet and Andre Ayew will all be big hits this season.
Report Solano1 August 11, 2015 6:28 PM BST

Out of a pool of 20 you have a top 5, a bottom 5 and a middle 10.

Whether a team finishes 6th or 15th they are, by definition, mid table also rans.
Report DIE LINKE August 11, 2015 6:44 PM BST
CCM, they may well be. Firmino will certainly do well for Liverpool. But the fact he is the most expensive signing in Bundesliga history shows how mental things are in the EPL these days. Bayern got Douglas Costa for half that and he's a better player.

All the extra money in the EPL just means clubs spend more on players (at inflated prices) and more on daft wages.
Report jed.davison August 11, 2015 7:06 PM BST
The point about people like the ones ccm mentioned is that they don't have to be capable of starting for top four sides to look outstanding in bad sides like Newcastle for instance, no offence solano.
Report morpteh mackem August 11, 2015 7:26 PM BST
if a team finished 15th but were only safe on last day of season would they not be construed as relegation material ?
Report jed.davison August 11, 2015 7:29 PM BST
On the subject of Lens morpteh, how did he look Saturday?
Report Solano1 August 11, 2015 7:34 PM BST
None taken, jed.

I have seen from elsewhere that you are a genuine poster - unlike some on here who question the definition of mid table to suit their own petty, tribal agenda.

Do you agree with Die Linke then, in that the big four would not be interested in any of the players signed by the mid table sides?
Report morpteh mackem August 11, 2015 7:36 PM BST
starved of ball tbh jed hopefully a lot more to come.

lol sol, so i take it newcastle are classed as midtable side ?
Report jed.davison August 11, 2015 7:52 PM BST
It's a bit nebulous for me - do the Chelsea's and man city's even fish in those waters? Why do all the due diligence required when you have a small budget ad need to make your one or two signings count, when you can spend £50m and not really care too much if it goes wrong?

Take Di Maria - united have suffered a £25m haircut on him, but what does that really mean to them? Or Schweinsteiger, if Guardiola is right and he's not the player he was, so what really?

FWIW, and again no offence, if Wijnaldum was out of the very top drawer, would you have got him for the money paid and would he have gone to SJP?  He's been around long enough for the top clubs to have had a good  look at him.
Report guinness2dear August 11, 2015 7:55 PM BST
I take it this is a fred without EFC...
Report Solano1 August 11, 2015 9:55 PM BST
It's a good question, jed, and time will tell I guess.  Putting aside petty differences (unlike Morpteh Mackem's attitude) if he turns out to be as good as Cabaye was I'll be pleased to watch him for a few years, and then we make a big return to allow us the opportunity to sign a couple to replace him.  Only chance those with less revenue than the big four have for me, albeit it remains extremely difficult, if not impossible.  Look at yourselves (Bale) and Liverpool (Suarez) as examples of how cash can be spunked.

Aside from Wijnaldum though, whom I am yet to make judgement on, I am quite liking the quality of signings the mid table sides are making.  Chelsea and Arsenal dropping points at the weekend (both at home) is hopefully a sign that the league could become more competitive.

G2D - not at all - why would it?  Everton (imo) have players who would get into certain top four sides.  Coleman, Stones,
Baines, McCarthy could / have the potential to be Champions League players for me.
Report guinness2dear August 11, 2015 10:12 PM BST
I was talking about that damn word - Spending, Sol...
Report Solano1 August 11, 2015 10:14 PM BST
Ah, yes.  Hence the reason you were excluded, I think.

Is there cash there?  I had it down as Lukaku being too expensive last year and therefore you need to sell before buying?
Report guinness2dear August 11, 2015 10:21 PM BST
I'd need to go back to Uni and do a degree on Shell corporations to work out EFC's finances, Sol...

Safe to say we're skint (AGAIN)
Report jed.davison August 11, 2015 10:24 PM BST
I hope he comes good for you mate. I think the League is better for having a decent Newcastle team in it - for he same reason I'd like to see Leeds come back up and get stronger.

This Mitrovic, he's gonna entertain us isn't he? I love the Serbs, such great people. Had a fantastic night with a few of them during the Olympics, was on my way home from work, ended up getting caned all night in a boozer n hackney, had to take the next two days off lol
Report Solano1 August 11, 2015 10:35 PM BST
It's a shame mate.

Serious investors put off by the ground, I reckon.  Cost to improve  / rebuild to improve revenue, etc.
Report Solano1 August 11, 2015 10:40 PM BST
Me too, jed, obviously.

Not about Newcastle though.  Was v. impressed. By Swansea the the wknd (fancy them to batter us on Saturday) and see Stoke, Palace, Liverpool, West Ham etc all being better than last season.  Southampton too, but they have that awful Europa to contend with.

Seen Mitro twice now and looked better against the Germans.  Just looked lie a complete fkn psycho on Sunday, which has its merits.  Whether he makes it or not, time will tell, but I severely doubt he'll be bullied like some 'goalscorers' from the continent.
Report guinness2dear August 11, 2015 10:43 PM BST
Indded it is.

We've had chances to do something about it, but general balls ups by them upstairs and the lack of investment has killed us. Just robbing Peter to pay Paul at the mo..
Report Solano1 August 11, 2015 10:46 PM BST
At least it's second nature for you lads. Grin
Report guinness2dear August 11, 2015 10:51 PM BST
Lethargy is a horrible word, but it sums us up aptly..

Good luck to your lot anyway, Sol..
Report Solano1 August 12, 2015 6:34 PM BST
There you gan, G2D.

Mason Holgate due at FF for medical.
Report guinness2dear August 12, 2015 11:05 PM BST
We've got to fight off Bournemouth first..

I'm so underwhelmed, and since out chat last night Sol, 'cash flow' issues have raised their ugly head..
Report Solano1 August 12, 2015 11:19 PM BST
What's that due to?

Paying on the never never for players in previous seasons?
Report guinness2dear August 12, 2015 11:31 PM BST
As i said yesterday, unfathomable.

We seem to take out 'loans' every season even though the Sky money has never been greater. I've given up trying to work out the finances even though i've seen previous years 'available' ins and outs..
Report Solano1 August 12, 2015 11:41 PM BST
Just had a gander.

£18m on BS at 31/05/14.
£29m committed to transfer fees post BS.
£77m of creditors due within a year from 31/05/14.
£31m of debtors due within a year from 31/05/14.

£57m debit assuming not refinanced, pre OP +/- Player Trading in Accounts to 31/05/15.

Doesn't look pretty.
Report guinness2dear August 12, 2015 11:45 PM BST
Aye, they don't help themselves by being very silent on financial issues even though they promised more openness in that regard..
Report Solano1 August 12, 2015 11:51 PM BST
Looks as though you have securitised the TV money and/or Season Ticket cash too.
Report guinness2dear August 12, 2015 11:57 PM BST
No flies on the board, that's a given. And now with Bobbyboy being footballs equivalent of Alastair Campbell, they've got all ends stitched up..
Report Solano1 August 13, 2015 12:00 AM BST
Should have built and moved into a joint stadium with that lot across the park years ago.

Would have both been better for it now.
Report guinness2dear August 13, 2015 12:06 AM BST
God forbid.

Should have sorted out Kings Dock 12 years ago..
Report rothko August 13, 2015 12:07 AM BST
they missed their chance when they were offered kings dock -
A joint stadium hsd never been on the cards
Report Solano1 August 23, 2015 9:43 AM BST
A little update:

Arsenal beaten by West Ham.
Spurs held by Stoke and Leicester.
Man U held by Newcastle.
Chelsea held by Swansea.

Four home games there.
Report DIE LINKE August 23, 2015 11:25 AM BST
Jose is certainly trying to make the league more competitive! Has the makings of a fascinating season for the mid-table sides, culminating in a nail-biting fight to avoid Europa League qualification.
Report Solano1 August 23, 2015 11:34 AM BST
The race for 8th. CoolGrin
Report Solano1 August 24, 2015 9:57 PM BST
Another two points dropped at hyem.
Report Solano1 August 29, 2015 5:00 PM BST
Palace win at the bridge.
Report Solano1 August 30, 2015 5:57 PM BST
Further update.

Spurs held by Everton.
Man U beaten at Swansea.

Another bad wind for the to 5.
Report Solano1 August 30, 2015 5:57 PM BST
*wknd for the top 5.
Report Biscuit1979 August 30, 2015 6:52 PM BST
Premier league money has basically wiped out any competition (not that there was much) in the Bundesliga and the french league. Whilst Bayern and PSG strengthen, most of the other clubs have seen their best players raided by premier league sides.
Report DIE LINKE August 30, 2015 8:33 PM BST
Top 4 surely, Sol. I've have Spurs in the list of sides paying way over the odds for players the big boys would not be interested in. cf. any of their signings since...(went back as far as 2008/09 so any help appreciated!)
Report n88uk August 30, 2015 8:37 PM BST

Aug 30, 2015 -- 6:52PM, Biscuit1979 wrote:

Premier league money has basically wiped out any competition (not that there was much) in the Bundesliga and the french league. Whilst Bayern and PSG strengthen, most of the other clubs have seen their best players raided by premier league sides.

Dortmund look pretty strong this year. Guess we won't get to see how strong as they aren't in the Champions League.

Report guinness2dear August 31, 2015 10:52 PM BST
Solano: have a read on twitter of Watched Toffees stuff..

He's digging up some interesting muck..
Report Solano1 September 1, 2015 7:43 PM BST
Looks like some interesting pictures etc on there, G2D.

Will have a good gander when I have more time - looks like time may be required. Happy
Report YOMOMMA September 2, 2015 12:30 PM BST
In this latest transfer window more than double was spent in the EPL compared to the La Liga. Yet La Liga still has the best sides and the best league. How does that work out? Are the English completely stupid?
Report guinness2dear September 3, 2015 11:11 AM BST
This might save a bit of time, Sol...
Report Solano1 September 5, 2015 10:52 AM BST
An intriguing read, G2D.

Report jed.davison September 5, 2015 11:13 AM BST
It would be unbelievable, but somehow it all fits the picture of the venal cesspool that football has become.
Report Solano1 September 5, 2015 1:46 PM BST
Do you ever stop twisting, jed?

Life as a spud.
Report Solano1 December 14, 2015 7:09 PM GMT
Man U and Spurs dropping points this week, with Chelsea up next.
Hot on he heels of only Arsenal gaining maximum points last week.

Leicester, Palace, Everton and Liverpool all in with a chance of breaking into the top 5.
Report Live4 December 14, 2015 7:29 PM GMT
I have a feeling Chelsea, United, City and Arsenal are going to be spending a ****load in the next two transfer windows!
Report Solano1 December 14, 2015 9:59 PM GMT
Three was from ten in the past fortnight.
Suspect they need to spend.
But, will they spend well?
Report Hamsterdam December 14, 2015 10:22 PM GMT
All the real top players are at the big clubs Real, Barca, Bayern, PSG even...all those teams onto a good thing so can't see players leaving....

Aside from that...the striker at Dortmund, Godin at Atletico maybe obtainable. But even they are who else they going to buy?
Report Solano1 December 14, 2015 10:29 PM GMT
I suspect they'll try to upset the applecart at Leicester.
Best way to stop the best side in the Midlands.
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