Everton to be relegated.66/1 too big....

In a similar vein , 7/1 bottom 3  on 1st September is over priced too , can see Watford doing a surprise factor , and nicking a point in our 1st game back , cant see them getting many more in the next 3 games

The Everton fans that I speak to reckon that Watford are nailed on for three points in that fixture.

They have no confidence in their team or the Manager...

Didn't know your mum was an Everton fan HFT.

I dont see what the fuss is about

Squad has plenty of quality to be nowhere near a relegation battle

howard
Baines, Coleman, Stones, hibbert
barkley, cleverley, gibson, barry, barkley, pienaar, lennon, osman
lukaku

i think if we see hibbert playing again , 6/1  will be a big price

Has McCarhty gone, Zazu?

Best player they have /had, for me.

lennon?

plenty of worse sides than everton in the premier league,though I agree Martinez is a terrible manager,bournemouth,watford and sunderland to fall through the trapdoor,west ham at a larger price isa interesting me the most though

everton will not go down...

far too many worse teams than them,

sunderland & newcastle for starters

660/1 Before i would consider it. lol

Never said that the once proud toffees would go down just that 66/1 is far too big and they will be in the mix.

I can agree with the poster that West Ham will go close and will have a saver at about 7/1..

There are some shockingly bad run teams such as Leicester Newcastle and Sunderland but I will take a chance...

Not too big at all. Fair price. Everton have a fair bit of quality. Think Newcastle will do alright this year. A couple of decent signings already in and it looks like Cahrlie Austin is going there as well. I expect them to finish 10-14th place.

pretty ****. tottenham at twice price look better.
ryan mason

I have no faith whatsoever in our manager but certainly think we have the players to finish top 10.

Potential back four of Baines, Coleman, Jagielka and Stones.

Midfield from McCarthy, Barry, Cleverley, Besic, Osman, Barkley, Mirallas, Deulofeu.

Should Lukaku get injured (as he is currently), a back-up of only Kone and Naismith is worrying.

My other worry is our coaching methods. Nineteen hamstring injuries last season and four/five already in three pre-season games. Cannot be down to bad luck.

as a scouser whos family and friends are evertonians..I can tell you they have no worrys about relegation..(evertons home form will keep them in middle table)they are worried about the lack of new players..and injurys..but relegation?..no way.

66/1 isn't too big - should be much more
they have no Europa League this year and will be top eight if they steer clear of injuries

ours4keeps
ours4keeps 11 Jul 15 21:01 Joined: 08 Jan 02 | Topic/replies: 6,283 | Blogger: ours4keeps's blog
I considered that ccm, but as far as I saw he only missed a couple of days and was back by wednesday I think.

I missed Borini off my list. Can't help but think they're significant and that if a deal isn't already pending they're being told they have no future here.



As an aside, and purely because I can't be arsed raising the relegation thread, what's people's thoughts on Everton to go down? Delofeu's potentially a good signing though he was apparently poor last year, while Cleverley isn't any kind of improvement on what they have. Father time keeps ticking on the likes of Howard, Jagielka, Baines and Barry yet they all still seem integral to the team. Meanwhile, teams around them such as Newcastle, Stoke, Palace, Villa, West Ham and Swansea are all strengthening some with eye catching players. There's still half a dozen teams at least who are very much worse than them but at 66/1 I can't help but be tempted.

As a blue I've just tried to have £360 with bet vik on us to finish in the bottom half @ 11/4 and after a couple of minutes was offered £100 @ 9/4 (unbelievable !)

After chatting with CS, agent Kaine managed to get me £100 @ 11/4

Buying money - Martinez is so out of his depth its not true

That is theft toffee87 as they cannot finish in the top half.

Having said that why would they not take a bet to lose a grand...

Unbelievable.

Something tells me something has to happen tonite with those alleged "bookmakers"...

Jul 31, 2015 -- 7:50PM, glory hornet wrote:

In a similar vein , 7/1 bottom 3

^I reckon the early season could be a struggle for them and I like that bet. I like Martinez but he is very dogamtic about his system and it doesnt fit alot of his players. He needs to adapt a bit or else Everton could have the same problems as last year.

Aug 2, 2015 -- 3:02PM, Capt__F wrote:

ours4keepsours4keeps 11 Jul 15 21:01 Joined: 08 Jan 02 | Topic/replies: 6,283 | Blogger: ours4keeps's blogI considered that ccm, but as far as I saw he only missed a couple of days and was back by wednesday I think.I missed Borini off my list. Can't help but think they're significant and that if a deal isn't already pending they're being told they have no future here.As an aside, and purely because I can't be arsed raising the relegation thread, what's people's thoughts on Everton to go down? Delofeu's potentially a good signing though he was apparently poor last year, while Cleverley isn't any kind of improvement on what they have. Father time keeps ticking on the likes of Howard, Jagielka, Baines and Barry yet they all still seem integral to the team. Meanwhile, teams around them such as Newcastle, Stoke, Palace, Villa, West Ham and Swansea are all strengthening some with eye catching players. There's still half a dozen teams at least who are very much worse than them but at 66/1 I can't help but be tempted.

I can see them struggling but relegation is a stretch too far. You need too many of the dross at the bottom (Leicester, Villa, Sunderland and the promoted teams) to have excellent seasons and Everton to have a shocker...maybe you will get a good trading opportunity but then that ties up more money.

and will be top eight if they steer clear of injuries

We've already got a bin load..

Homefortea....are you Derek Mac govern of the daily Liverpool fc mirror, have a word with yourself , its about as likely to happen as Liverpool winning the league.

they wont be relegated. but agree they will shorten. picking my fantasy team there and apart from the first game i wont be having a single everton player until november. novemeber/december they have the best run of fixtures in the league but until then they will be fighting for every point

In a similar vein , 7/1 bottom 3  on 1st September is over priced too , can see Watford doing a surprise factor , and nicking a point in our 1st game back , cant see them getting many more in the next 3 games

I've lumped on

Watford (h) no gimme
Soton (a) no chance
City (h) no chance
Spurs (a) no chance

that 7/1 could be the bet of the season followed by 16/1 Martinez 1st out of the door because I wont put up with poor results and the even worse football that was on offer from Martinez last season

toffee

I can just imagine you watching the Tottenham game on the last Saturday in August praying that we don't get an equaliser in the last minute to take us into 17th place.

With friends like you etc........

Thanks everyone for posting on my behalf.

My main bet is on  Leicester earlier in the summer at 9/2 but the cat's well and truly out the bag with them.


I can't disagree that there are worse teams than Everton and I'm not saying they should be among the faves, I just think 66/1 is value. They haven't strengthened their squad, which has several ageing first teamers while reliable back-ups like Osman, Pienaar and Hibbert() look just about finished. Added to that their manager has form for relegation and they have a tricky start to the season and if they're in the bottom 3 or thereabouts at the start of September they could find it difficult to climb out.

The triannual "Everton to get relegated" thread. People confusing a big price with value. Would be interested to hear which six of the following teams will finish above Everton: Watford, Norwich, Bournemouth, Sunderland, Leicester, Villa, West Brom, Newcastle.

triumphoragony 03 Aug 15 20:01 Joined: 03 Aug 07 | Topic/replies: 1,921 | Blogger: triumphoragony's blog
Homefortea....are you Derek Mac govern of the daily Liverpool fc mirror, have a word with yourself , its about as likely to happen as Liverpool winning the league.

No I am not Derek but wish that I had his cash...

Everton FC are a declining force and may be relegated..

66/1 was a good price as was Wayne Rooney to be Top Premiership goalscorer at 16/1...

Making a profit with the advertised sc um is all about taking the top price...

Homefortea....are you Derek Mac govern of the daily Liverpool fc mirror

That's the poster who goes by the name charwell apparently.

Not sure that people should be telling the forum who is who..

Not since fatdogy was outed as Alec Salmond...

Noticed that the said half-wit has sobered up....

7/1 bottom 3rd sept is the bet.First match factor v the hornets then a horrid fixture list. I'm a blue and have no fears we'll drop but the price may give a trade early doors though I doubt any more than a reasonable free bet will get squeezed. My best bets this year? Stoke top ten, forest relegation.

That's the poster who goes by the name charwell apparently



so charwell wanted rafa out after ONE GAME!!!!

Charwell is much funnier than McGovern.

both are as funny as a wet fart

Nobody willing to say which six of these dross outfits will finish above Everton? Can a case even be made for a single one of them to do so? Watford, Norwich, Bournemouth, Sunderland, Leicester, Villa, West Brom, Newcastle.

You could make a case for any of them. The point is I (and the poster) think Everton could have a poor season.

I'd fancy Newcastle certainly could well finish ahead of them. West Brom have a great manager for that level who's expert at staying away from trouble. Sherwood's done a good job at Villa.

That leaves the 3 promoted teams, Sunderland and Leicester. For Sunderland a lot will depend on how their new striker does. I think Norwich will stay up quite comfortably, Bournemouth are a complete unknown quantity - they could be dreadful, or they could take the league by surprise. Watford have lots of money, aren't afraid of making changes and have a potential quality attacker in Deeney.

If I was to pick a bottom 3 it'd be Leiecester, Watford and - for value's sake - Everton.

It would be some feat for Newcastle, Sunderland and Villa to overtake Everton this season, the spreads have Everton increasing their points total against all three this season.

Well, my opinion clearly differs from the spreads then. I do think Newcastle will show some improvement this year. The lad they've got from PSV could be a really good player I think. I would have said the same for Villa but it all hinges on how they replace Benteke and Delph. Sunderland will inevitably be a bit crap, just a question of will Everton be worse.

Once again I never said that the toffees would be relegated only that 66/1 was a big price compared to the many teams that will finish ahead of them..

It has to be value.

"EVERTON TO BE RELEGATED" 66/1 TOO BIG..... Mmmmmmmmmm and you didn't say they would be relegated.......

Good start here, even if they find a late equaliser. System *still* doesnt look right, and half the support are already booing.

IMO Martinez' worst decision was buying Lukaku.

They look a bit better than last year, a bit more fleuncy, subs seem to know what they are doing...even so. Not a top 10 side for me. Not yet.

West Ham have 1 striker.

If we don't buy someone decent soon, it will be a relegation fight for sure.

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In a similar vein , 7/1 bottom 3  on 1st September is over priced too , can see Watford doing a surprise factor , and nicking a point in our 1st game back , cant see them getting many more in the next 3 games



That'll do for starters

triumphoragony

Not sure that you realise that this is a forum for those that know about betting fella...

You will have a lot more agony than triumph fella..

Keep up.

you copied the bet 1% you can't stay off the Liverpool thread

How Everton can buy a nomark for £28.5 million that was available for half that is beyond me..

It is just like how Kenwright overpays for "Stars" in the West End..

The good fans of Everton have subsidised the Chairman's West End shows that have never made a profit..

Unfortunately he is not well at the moment..

When he dies (as we all do)

I can imagine the Headline in the Echo..

"Billy Liar Producer Dies Martinez Alive"...

what price are you willing to lay me Liverpool top 6
I have read you are a serious punter ?

I am a backer not a layer creature...

If Liverpool do not finish in the top six then all social security offices should close down forever...

Ok well i'll put it out there and say 11/10 to get more than 40 points is a great bet

PM me I will give you best odds that Villa team will be lucky to get 30..

CLOWN

Pathetic

homefortea
homefortea 08 Aug 15 21:27 Joined: 06 Sep 04 | Topic/replies: 10,793 | Blogger: homefortea's blog
mobo it is..

I must have lost tens of thousands of pounds on the exchange and yet won hundreds of thousands with the alleged "Bookmakers".....

And yet after a few bets on the betfair "Sportsbook" I am limited to a max of £2.50 per bet aka nobet£3.65....

The alleged "Bookmakers" exchange information and when it does come into the general domain the compensation claims will outdo what has happened with the Banks mis-selling..

I have saved every email and believe me it is a mighty tome..

The Data Protection Act will take a bashing..


Walter Mitty alive and well
turd

Seriously homefortea writing a mans obituary is a sick , twisted and bitter . benteke ....now there's a player who's overpriced .

this could turn out to be a classic thread....

chelsea are still 3000/1 at 888

What's its out to now, 1000/1

OK4 and Homefortea hiding behind Jose right now.

Not hiding anywhere. Looks like I've got a losing 66/1 bet. Big deal.

Quote " Everton are a declining force and maybe relegated' ....the Rooney top scorer going well too.

Pleasing thread :-)

16/1 bp oddschecker top 4 which prob right.Pool 5/2 but 2 winnable home games next up.Neither great value but would libpool shorten considerably with 6 points next 2 matches?City 1/66