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FredRescue
25 Jul 15 13:38
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Must have been pretty bad? 10 match ban Scared

Far bigger than the bans handed out by FA to Ben Thatcher for assault on Pedro Mendes, Paul Davis's punch to break Glen Cockerill's jaw, Joey Barton kicking Ousmane Dabo in face and detatching retina, Luis Suarez racist abuse against Evra etc etc.
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Report Westender July 25, 2015 1:45 PM BST
He allegedly told him what he is.
Report john92 July 25, 2015 2:10 PM BST
Broadfoot is a well known cretin.

Kirk Broadfoot, 20, a St Mirren defender, was facing a jail sentence last night after he and John Barr, 24, both of Drongan, Ayrshire, were convicted of attacking a man and breaking his jaw in a post-match brawl in August 2003. Broadfoot assaulted Thomas Roney after watching an amateur game. Sentencing was deferred until next month.

He got community service for that after his manager spoke up for him while the victim got a metal plate in his face.

He got off on a later assault charge on a 'not proven' verdict and once was injured while microwaving an egg.
Report Westender July 25, 2015 2:32 PM BST
I assume McClean is a Prince William type character.
Report akabula July 25, 2015 2:57 PM BST
McLean is a well known cretin.
Report sofiakenny July 25, 2015 10:54 PM BST
thanks ackie..kinda knew broadfoot was innocent.
Report Outpost July 26, 2015 11:57 AM BST
broadfoot is an idiot if he allowed himself to be goaded by that hate filled bigot.

apparently he's now taking legal advice because he wants a chance to put his side of the story as he was seemingly convicted purely on the word of a couple of "easily offended" fans.
Report freddiek July 26, 2015 12:17 PM BST
Broadfoot spewing out the vile anti-catholic abuse. May not play with Rangers no more but the club DNA is firmly entrenched...Wink
Report Kriskin July 26, 2015 12:35 PM BST
The usual scum defending the Bigot Broadfoot who HATES everything Irish and Catholic.  A lot of similar types in Ayrshire.
Report Westender July 26, 2015 2:17 PM BST
What is wrong with being a loyal UK citizen?

We have been bombed by all sorts over the past 30 years in London and it is natural for people to be bitter about scum murdering innocent people including women and childeren.

The real bigots and vermin are the people who murder innocent UK citizens.

The Irish hate the Brits for historic reasons and about time these people sang the National Anthem or head to pastures new where they can be happier.
Report lfc1971 July 26, 2015 2:26 PM BST
Anyone who disrespects the British national anthem should be jailed for 6 months and fined 3 years wages...Broadfoot probably told the hypocrite McLean so in no uncertain terms...very good.
Report topshot July 26, 2015 2:33 PM BST
Isn't this the piece of Shyte McLean that refused to face the English flag for the National anthem?...send the **** back where he came from.
Report lfc1971 July 26, 2015 2:35 PM BST
That's him, you`ve summed him up nicely...a complete hypocrite, let him go and live and work in that republican paradise Ireland.
Report lfc1971 July 26, 2015 2:37 PM BST
They have sent tens of thousands of their unemployed to England since gaining independence since the 1920s and what thanks do you get...charmless c..t
Report mightymoyes July 26, 2015 2:52 PM BST
All the Mensa members posting on this thread I see
Report Geesyerdosh July 26, 2015 3:05 PM BST
He told McClean that Rangers never died in 2012. The FA had to make a stand against such an insane statement.

They also inserted a confidentiality clause to save Broadfoot from being pointed at and laughed at by the general public. At least no more than usual.
Report Johnny_Mustang July 26, 2015 3:14 PM BST
Broadfoot is not only a remarkably mediocre footballer but a also complete buffoon.
Report Westender July 26, 2015 3:34 PM BST
Sounds like he should be the next signing for Rosie Delia at Celtic Johnny
Report freddiek July 26, 2015 3:35 PM BST
none of the Rangers fans condemning sectarian abuse then. How predictable..Wink
Report lfc1971 July 26, 2015 4:16 PM BST
freddick

This may come as a surprise to you but the English are under no obligation to like anyone from Ireland, or indeed Scotland.

If Broadfoot made this clear to Mclean I don`t think it should give us pause for concern...the English are a tolerant nation but Mcleans behavior shames not England but himself, his family and his own country.
Report Westender July 26, 2015 4:24 PM BST
Well said above.

I have no problems with anyone from our 4 Nations who are loyal to Queen and country.

Maybe McClean would be happier playing for one of the plethora of Dublin teams.

If he is happy to take English money then he should show more respect for our traditions, culture and tolerance towards people who come to live and work here.

The way McClean is carrying on, you would have thought the UK people let the Irish starve to death during the potato famine not saved them.
Report MadVlad July 26, 2015 4:30 PM BST
ffs lads I'm a ex squaddie but if you look where the lad comes from all he is doing is being respectful to his community where no doubt he has family and furthermore will settle once his career is over.

while his views differ from mine I respect his stance knowing full well he will be slated,quite a brave individual who if I was going into battle I would like someone like him by me side.

cut him some slack ffs.
Report lfc1971 July 26, 2015 4:36 PM BST
He is only brave because he is living and working in England...would it be so safe for an English footballer to behave in such a way in Dublin or some of the more bloodthirsty parts of Belfast or Derry.

He would not be so bold and impertinent if living in Germany or France, China, Russia or most other countries....it is bad manners if nothing else to presume on the good nature of the English.
Report Kriskin July 26, 2015 4:51 PM BST
Vlad - makes valid points.  The people in Derry City have little tolerance for the British flag.  Maybe McClean would be better off playing in the US.  Or maybe he should do what other catholics do when playing for Northern Ireland who lower their heads when the anthem comes on.  Don't have to turn ur back and create hassle for urself
Report MadVlad July 26, 2015 4:53 PM BST
Kriskin I will tell you what he must have a strong character and for that alone he has my respect.
Report MadVlad July 26, 2015 4:54 PM BST
ps and the majority on here know where I come from.
Report Kriskin July 26, 2015 4:56 PM BST

Jul 26, 2015 -- 4:54PM, MadVlad wrote:


ps and the majority on here know where I come from.


I understand sir.  You always come across on here as someone who is very fair in your comments

Report lfc1971 July 26, 2015 4:58 PM BST
He is quite entitled to go and play football in any country in the world, however while he is in the US, or Dublin, or Spain or Russia he is duty bound to respect that countries flag...it is hypocritical, cowardly and dishonest to take the stance he does.
Report Kriskin July 26, 2015 5:04 PM BST

Jul 26, 2015 -- 4:58PM, lfc1971 wrote:


He is quite entitled to go and play football in any country in the world, however while he is in the US, or Dublin, or Spain or Russia he is duty bound to respect that countries flag...it is hypocritical, cowardly and dishonest to take the stance he does.


If he goes to those countries he wouldn't do what he did last week.  Vlad gives the reasons why he done it

Report lfc1971 July 26, 2015 5:13 PM BST
We all know the reasons and he is quite entitled to have those views, he is not entitled to disrespect a nations national anthem...it is a problem for England in that kindness can be mistaken for weakness....an Englishman in Derry, or Belfast or Dublin would not be so sure or arrogant.
Report john92 July 26, 2015 5:14 PM BST
Broadfoot can't be a bigot..... a prominent Catholic lawyer helped him get his 'not proven' verdict.

A lot of similar types in Ayrshire.

Sadly that is very true.
Report freddiek July 26, 2015 6:03 PM BST

Jul 26, 2015 -- 4:16PM, lfc1971 wrote:


freddickThis may come as a surprise to you but the English are under no obligation to like anyone from Ireland, or indeed Scotland.If Broadfoot made this clear to Mclean I don`t think it should give us pause for concern...the English are a tolerant nation but Mcleans behavior shames not England but himself, his family and his own country.


i've seen many of your posts now across these forums and have come to the conclusion that you are somewhere to the right of Genghis Khan

Report Charlie July 26, 2015 7:33 PM BST
As an ex-squaddie who was in NI the year after Bloody Sunday and someone who lives close to Birmingham where more innocent lives were lost I must admit I'm biased and had, and have, no respect whatsoever for the IRA and their affiliates. I also support the team he now plays for.

I do however respect Irish people, and Ireland, in general and would not think of demeaning their flag or national anthem. Time has passed and McLean is doing more harm than good by his stance.
Report MadVlad July 26, 2015 7:42 PM BST
^ Interesting post Charlie as we come from the same "camp" so to speak, surely you have to admire his stance as I for one can understand his position.
Report MadVlad July 26, 2015 7:45 PM BST
ps my tour was west belfast when the gibralter 3 were shot by the SAS and furthermore their funeral was attacked ........not to mention the 2 lads who left my base and went into the back of a funeral cortage and were killed for their troubles.
Report Westender July 26, 2015 7:47 PM BST
Any IRA members or supporters are the scum of the earth.

No middle ground here and no surrender to such vermin.

Supporters of people who murder women and children should really have a good look at themselves.
Report freddiek July 26, 2015 7:49 PM BST
Thats not what this is about.

Broadfoot unleashed a load of sectarian abuse at McClean and has been punished it for it. He could do it to anybody, was just McClean in this instance.
Report moo2moo July 26, 2015 7:57 PM BST
the best way to highlight intolerence is to isolate it, not compete with it.
Report Charlie July 26, 2015 7:59 PM BST
Broadfoot was guilty of sectarian abuse. So was McLean. One gets punished the other doesn't.
Report freddiek July 26, 2015 8:00 PM BST
really Charlie?? who has accused him d'you know? gotta link?
Report Charlie July 26, 2015 8:03 PM BST
If him is McLean then me amongst others. Link is two posts above.
Report freddiek July 26, 2015 8:06 PM BST
Charlie, Broadfoot has just got a record ban for sectarian abuse against James McClean, who is the innocent party in the matter. Its really that simple, stop inventing nonsense.
Report Charlie July 26, 2015 8:10 PM BST
freddiek, I'm not disputing Broadfoot's abuse. I do not agree that McLean is an innocent party.
Report freddiek July 26, 2015 8:12 PM BST
in this instance he is. I understand you may have issues about his previous actions but unless you were at the game and know something we don't you've no evidence to say that.
Report Charlie July 26, 2015 8:15 PM BST
Apologies if I'm not making myself clear. Broadfoot was wrong.

I'm not talking about this particular game but his (McLean's) actions at various football games.
Report freddiek July 26, 2015 8:19 PM BST
EXAMPLE??
Report john92 July 26, 2015 8:22 PM BST
Can anybody provide a link to McClean turning his back on the English flag, or in some way disrespecting the anthem prior to March 2015 when the instance with Broadfoot took place?

If not then these incidents are irrelevant to what happened between him and Broadfoot as they hadn't happened yet.
Report akabula July 26, 2015 8:26 PM BST
freddiek  • July 26, 2015 7:49 PM BST 
Thats not what this is about.
Broadfoot unleashed a load of sectarian abuse at McClean and has been punished it for it. He could do it to anybody, was just McClean in this instance.


How do you know that? It doesn't clarify what the abuse was.
McLean has singled himself out in the past with his stance on the wearing of Poppies and turning his back when the National Anthem was being played.
He's well known for his republican sympathies and not only political either.
That's his choice and Broadfoot had a go at him. That was his choice. Broadfoot got punished but I have no sympathy for McLean who I see as a bigot.
Report freddiek July 26, 2015 8:30 PM BST
he obviously had more than a go at him, 10-match ban indicates that. Aka you're either firmly against sectarian abuse or you support bigotry, its that simple.

its wrong no matter who is on the receiving end.

McClean didnt abuse anybody. He shouldnt be forced to wear poppies..I would describe what he did re. the anthem as misguided or disrespectful. But its still his right to do that and not against the law. So clearly not in same category as Broadfoot
Report Charlie July 26, 2015 8:31 PM BST
Refusing to wear a poppy was Nov 2014 and also a year earlier at Sunderland I believe.
Report Charlie July 26, 2015 8:37 PM BST
February 2013
EXCLUSIVE: McClean removed from Twitter after Sunderland winger's controversial comments spark IRA sectarian row

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2284965/Sunderlands-James-...
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Report freddiek July 26, 2015 8:37 PM BST
thats his choice, no law against that..There is however a law against sectarianism, so making a comparison between the 2 is nonsensical.
Report Charlie July 26, 2015 8:40 PM BST
I presume you posted that before my last post.
Report freddiek July 26, 2015 8:44 PM BST
liking songs are not illegal, its your personal choice. McClean may not like Rule Britannia say, or other songs that may be popular in a BA barracks.
Report Charlie July 26, 2015 8:56 PM BST
In the context of this discussion it's relevant.

We're not getting very far with this. You think he's goody-two-shoes. I don't.
Report FredRescue July 26, 2015 8:58 PM BST
Why did the FA not release what was supposed to have been said by Broadfoot? When in the case of Terry vs. Anton Ferdinand the FA quoted the exact words that Terry was charged with saying.

Also anyone in the Broadfoot case was prohibited from discussing anything about it or the verdict, yet Terry was allowed to freely talk about the case after his guilty verdict.

All very bizarre imo
Report akabula July 26, 2015 9:02 PM BST
It will all come out eventually. No doubt via a book release.
Report john92 July 26, 2015 10:30 PM BST
Reports suggest that the confidentiality clause was invoked to 'protect the safety of those involved'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-3173281/Rotherham-defender-Kirk-Broadfoot-banned-10-games-alleged-sectarian-abuse-aimed-West-Brom-winger-James-McClean.html

Make of that what you will. If true I can only come to the conclusion that in the opinion of the FA, some people that would make James McClean look squeaky clean might put Broadfoot's safety in jeopardy if his remarks became public.
Report mincer11 July 27, 2015 7:16 AM BST
And to make matters even worse, he's no good anyway. He'd be no loss to any team.
Stick him back up to Derry City, he can play a bit of football , and still have time for intimidating people, looting , chanting nationalist songs and whatever else them yokes get up to.
Report Westender July 27, 2015 9:00 AM BST
Mincer has nailed it here.
Report Alias July 27, 2015 9:13 AM BST
mightymoyes 26 Jul 15 14:52 Joined: 28 Jul 07 | Topic/replies: 12,260 | Blogger: mightymoyes's blog
All the Mensa members posting on this thread I see

LaughLaughLaugh
Report Alias July 27, 2015 9:21 AM BST
lfc1971 26 Jul 15 14:26 Joined: 06 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 4,944 | Blogger: lfc1971's blog
Anyone who disrespects the British national anthem should be jailed for 6 months and fined 3 years wages

I've been disrespecting that dirge and what it stands for since I was old enough to know, not that I'd particularly agree or disagree with McLean, a rebel with an antique cause.
Report bruno100 July 27, 2015 10:01 AM BST
Mincer is a complete moron typical plastic red neck
Report kavvie July 27, 2015 10:13 AM BST
mincer never fails to disapoint!!
Report Platini July 27, 2015 12:34 PM BST
I've just found the clip, first time I've seen it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOXqs09CklU

He didn't turn his back, but he did turn 45 degrees to the side.
My view is it was unnecessary. I'll defend anyone's right not to wear poppies or to wear white poppies, but this kind of stuff is just
confrontational. There's no need for it. I don't know the lad but I hope he's nothing like Stokes - that man is a bellend IMO.
Report breadnbutter July 27, 2015 12:51 PM BST
mincer has hit nail on head .

Is JM in paddy mcourts  f e n i a n  army


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlg95-6e8JA


the mock outrage from the perptually offended is laughable  WALOFS
Report john92 July 27, 2015 4:39 PM BST
Any ideas why a family from one of the most hardcore loyalist villages in Scotland, might name their children so their initials are KB?
Report Outpost July 27, 2015 7:31 PM BST
"Broadfoot unleashed a load of sectarian abuse at McClean and has been punished it for it." 

according to a couple of fans who obviously have the same bigoted views as McClean and as we all know from experience, sectarian fans would never make anything up about the other side, would they.
Report Kriskin July 27, 2015 11:36 PM BST

Jul 27, 2015 -- 7:11AM, mincer11 wrote:


I'm Irish and for the most part ashamed to be so. I cannot abide low life's like Mclane and there's an even bigger dirt bag that plays with Celtic, that Stokes. Two complete morons of the highest order, and anybody who supports them two prikks will basically be one of them brain dead sectarian mob who cannot think for themselves . They should sack the piece of Shiite and send him back to that kip Derry , that's what they should do. He doesn't have much of a problem looking at the queens head when it's on a note, now does he ?I'm actually disgusted that they got the basstard to play for the Republic , I'd much prefer if he played with that other shower up North.


Irish man my fook.  Ur a proper tool.

Report freddiek July 27, 2015 11:51 PM BST

Jul 27, 2015 -- 7:31PM, Outpost wrote:


"Broadfoot unleashed a load of sectarian abuse at McClean and has been punished it for it."  according to a couple of fans who obviously have the same bigoted views as McClean and as we all know from experience, sectarian fans would never make anything up about the other side, would they.


jesus wept. hope all rangers fans are not this thick.

Report Blackrock July 28, 2015 12:35 PM BST
Mclean has made a big point of making his anti - Brtish feelings known for a good while now.

Thats his right to do so, - but dont do it in Britain and take British coin to boot. If he feels that strongly about his contempt for Britain, i suggest he plies his trade back in Ireland.

Then again, he would be on 2 bob a week there, so understand why he hasnt gone home just yet.
Report breadnbutter July 28, 2015 1:22 PM BST
If he feels so strong wtf is he doing here ?   

should be deported along with the other hate preachers
Report Mikael D'Haguenet July 28, 2015 1:43 PM BST
Thread in summary: McClean is bigoted sectarian scvm; Broadfoot is a good lad.
Report wallis July 28, 2015 3:44 PM BST
I wonder how many English people will salute the ISIS flag when they take over the country in the next 30 years ?
Report brac July 28, 2015 5:58 PM BST
Fred all Newco fans are that thick, sad but true as a few prize specimens on here bear witness to that factLaugh
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