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DAFFODIL1
19 Jul 15 19:52
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Report Westender July 19, 2015 8:04 PM BST
No doubt the Betfair Spudsbook and virtual games shyte flowing as normal.
Report DAFFODIL1 July 19, 2015 8:05 PM BST
Can still use Sportsbook,there's a suprise
Report NORTH BERWICK July 19, 2015 8:10 PM BST
Share price through the roof, record profits, CEO paid £11 million last year but still a company not many trust.
Report penbud July 19, 2015 8:11 PM BST
cannot believe the price of there shares would love too short them but gov runs the stock market
Report Darlo Bantam July 19, 2015 8:11 PM BST
Tells you all you need to know about where the money is in the gambling market.
Report gg123 July 19, 2015 8:11 PM BST
It is so annoying
Report lucianegon July 19, 2015 8:15 PM BST
Scores still updating though ... ridiculous.
Report sideshowbob July 19, 2015 8:24 PM BST
im getting 'application error' when trying to place a bet. whats happening?
Report Westender July 19, 2015 8:28 PM BST
Its Grand National Day mate.
Report gg123 July 19, 2015 8:28 PM BST
betfair announces they are working as hard as they can. Minutes go and absolutely nothing happensSad
Report Darlo Bantam July 19, 2015 8:35 PM BST
Probably two men and the cleaner at Betfair Towers at this time on a Sunday. No doubt working hard means they'll be hoping to get someone away from the dinner table to get it fixed by 10pm at the earliest.
Report Westender July 19, 2015 8:37 PM BST
The Betfair Exchange Website is down 1000 times more than any other website I visit.

Mario Ballotelli - 'Why Always Betfair'
Report themover July 19, 2015 8:38 PM BST
Betquack working sweetly as always
Report sideshowbob July 19, 2015 8:39 PM BST
are they all watching dragons den?
Report Darlo Bantam July 19, 2015 8:39 PM BST

Jul 19, 2015 -- 8:38PM, themover wrote:


Betquack working sweetly as always


Yep £5,000 matched on the tennis final currently on. Whereas £550,000 here on Betfair despite the fact it's been suspended for half the match.

Report lucianegon July 19, 2015 8:40 PM BST
Sportsbook multiples with the crappy prices still working a treat ... nothing new there.
Report Westender July 19, 2015 8:43 PM BST
Purple has never been a competitor and never will.

The next 'Betfair' in the form of new well funded entrepreneurs cannot be far away to fill the increasing gap in the peer to peer betting market.
Report sideshowbob July 19, 2015 8:44 PM BST
if i was cynical, i may think its a deliberate ploy to put off traders. how can you trade big money when the site works less often than a single parent teenager on channel 5?
Report Kriskin July 19, 2015 8:45 PM BST
Most markets still suspended.  A fooking joke.  No market for the US PGA golf
Report Darlo Bantam July 19, 2015 8:47 PM BST

Jul 19, 2015 -- 8:44PM, sideshowbob wrote:


if i was cynical, i may think its a deliberate ploy to put off traders. how can you trade big money when the site works less often than a single parent teenager on channel 5?


Intriguing. Certainly every time the exchange goes down for 30 minutes, 45 minutes, an hour, or however long this will be, it knocks your confidence that little bit more. Every person who has their fingers burnt won't be in a rush to trade again too quickly.

Report Westender July 19, 2015 8:48 PM BST
Spain U19 v Russia U19 - not a penny matched on purple since Betfair went down
Report Darlo Bantam July 19, 2015 8:51 PM BST
As you say it's not a competitor. Utterly embarrassing for them.
Report doridoru July 19, 2015 8:51 PM BST
Why don't Bet365 get an exchange set up, they are by far the best site with their video coverage etc...
Report doridoru July 19, 2015 8:52 PM BST
I think we would all love to leave here now..
Report gg123 July 19, 2015 8:53 PM BST
The U19 match is over, perhaps betfair soon will work again?
Report Darlo Bantam July 19, 2015 8:53 PM BST
Why would bet365 want to run an exchange? There's simply no money in running an exchange compared to running a bookmakers. Bet365 are the market leaders. Absolutely no point in them doing something where there's no profit in.
Report sideshowbob July 19, 2015 8:54 PM BST
on the old site the open golf still has all the money up, but nobody can bet cos in the last 10 minutes the matched total hasnt shifted a bean.
Report doridoru July 19, 2015 8:56 PM BST
So there's no money in exchanges? you are right then about them trying to get rid of it...
Report Darlo Bantam July 19, 2015 8:56 PM BST
Looks like that's what Betfair are slowly doing to me. Wink
Report mesmerised July 19, 2015 8:57 PM BST
As I said the other week, you are all being slowly weeded off the exchange and onto the sportsbook, the exchange has reached it's optimum level. People wont have it though.
Report pauliow July 19, 2015 8:57 PM BST
There must be money in exchanges. Betfair were making huge profits before the sportsbook etc came along
Report sideshowbob July 19, 2015 8:58 PM BST
are there figures available that show their profits from each product?
Report mesmerised July 19, 2015 8:58 PM BST
And their crap virtual games
Report Darlo Bantam July 19, 2015 8:58 PM BST

Jul 19, 2015 -- 8:57PM, pauliow wrote:


There must be money in exchanges. Betfair were making huge profits before the sportsbook etc came along


They had to start Premium Charge to keep it going though.

Report pauliow July 19, 2015 8:59 PM BST
Fair point but it clearly worked.
Report Darlo Bantam July 19, 2015 9:00 PM BST
Don't know if a new exchange could pop up and immediately have such draconian charging levels. PC worked because players were already tied in.
Report NorwichRob July 19, 2015 9:00 PM BST
Nice....bollards
Report NorwichRob July 19, 2015 9:02 PM BST
BF share price only took off after sportsbook...
Report Darlo Bantam July 19, 2015 9:02 PM BST
Exactly.
Report pauliow July 19, 2015 9:04 PM BST
Does anybody here use sportsbook? I've never gone near it
Report stroodle July 19, 2015 9:08 PM BST
sportsbook down
Report Westender July 19, 2015 9:09 PM BST
The Exchange is a risk free profitable business model and someone will emerge and take over the baton from Betfair.

If the Exchange closed tomorrow, Betfair would be a tiny Sportsbook
Report YOMOMMA July 19, 2015 9:09 PM BST

Jul 19, 2015 -- 9:04PM, pauliow wrote:


Does anybody here use sportsbook? I've never gone near it


i used it a few times on anfd off. had about 3-4k off them. surprised they havent limited me yet,

Report Darlo Bantam July 19, 2015 9:10 PM BST
If the Exchange closed tomorrow, Betfair would be a tiny Sportsbook

I tend to agree. Clearly Betfair know the full figures. I get the impression they are using the excellent name and reputation they built up for themselves to grow the sportsbook.
Report pauliow July 19, 2015 9:10 PM BST
Well done. The prices look crap to me so I've stayed away
Report Westender July 19, 2015 9:10 PM BST
I attempted to place my first bet on there £400 at 1/2 and I was offered £9.

Never been back.
Report YOMOMMA July 19, 2015 9:11 PM BST
the prices are in general not that great but if u keep an eye out they have the odd mistake and decent value price.
Report fuzzer July 19, 2015 9:12 PM BST
Ha ha that's almost as bad as Betfred :)
Report sideshowbob July 19, 2015 9:13 PM BST
the exchange is probably an inconvenience. they cant shut it down or sell it, cos the new exchange would attract half the customer base away. they dont really want it, but have no real choice but to keep it.
Report YOMOMMA July 19, 2015 9:14 PM BST
they should sell it but are just being selfish.
Report Westender July 19, 2015 9:14 PM BST
Betfair Sportsbook contains crackpot risk averse traders frequently offering the worst prices seen in the betting industry.

No shops, very little Live Video, a hacked off Exchange Customer Base and stiff competition out there.

Bit like a tiddler attempting to bite jaws.

Betfair is nothing without the Exchange liquidity and will be finished when this liquidity finds a new home.
Report sideshowbob July 19, 2015 9:16 PM BST
i got offered about £30 on an evens on the sportsbook. its not really aimed at people who bet regularly. just the average joe who puts £5 on england winning the world cup.
Report YOMOMMA July 19, 2015 9:16 PM BST
i think they keep the exchange so they can use the name betfair for the sportsbook. betfair being synonomous with best prices and person to person betting.
Report sideshowbob July 19, 2015 9:19 PM BST
yeah the exchange gives them loads of free publicity. whenever anybody says the name betfair, in relation to the exchange, thats great for them.

if they sold the exchange, they know that the name would obviously have to be changed. then that new named exchange would get all the free publicity associated with it. then even if the new owners werent bookies, theyd soon launch their own sportsbook on the back of the exchange! they cant sell it, itd be suicidal.
Report YOMOMMA July 19, 2015 9:20 PM BST
yep the name has big brand value.
Report Westender July 19, 2015 9:22 PM BST
The Fair part left in 2008
Report NorwichRob July 19, 2015 9:25 PM BST
Do bf prop up the casino exchange ? There's some serious money punted there all day every day, went there for a free bet and was amazed..
Report themover July 19, 2015 9:26 PM BST
Our Engineers are continuing to work on fixing the issues with the site. We’re sorry for this disruption to your betting experience.

Laugh
Report NorwichRob July 19, 2015 9:35 PM BST
Hmmnnn...fingers crossed viewing livescore then..Sad
Report sternjohn July 19, 2015 9:35 PM BST
How long does sh!t like this usually take, id like a bet on the arrows.
Report NorwichRob July 19, 2015 9:38 PM BST
Longer than your bet requirements usually Cry
Report zlatan333 July 19, 2015 9:43 PM BST
what a fin joke, i think i will start my own free money website, how the f do you get license? these jokers don't deserve one for sure...
Report NorwichRob July 19, 2015 9:51 PM BST
Hmmnn - got away with it on the Icelandic games but no palpable if lost..
Report NorwichRob July 19, 2015 9:55 PM BST
The sportsbook is ok for penny punters, min bet 10p, bit of a mystery to me as to the shareprice success - maybe casino profits a la fobts..
Report zlatan333 July 19, 2015 9:55 PM BST
what the F???????????????????????
Report NorwichRob July 19, 2015 9:59 PM BST
On the plus side - forum working well...enjoy your punts Cry
Report sideshowbob July 19, 2015 10:00 PM BST
just had a look at other exchanges, how do they manage to so rubbish?? not just no money, but abysmal design.

they try to have too many markets too, im sure theyd be better off starting with only covering select big events per day. make it easier to find them. do everything possible to attract money in those events, then slowly add more over time. having thousands of markets with tuppence in each one doesnt seem to serve much point.
Report sideshowbob July 19, 2015 10:07 PM BST
im not convinced another exchange can ever compete though. the money is where the money is. no point using an exchange that has no money. but without money there, nobody will take their money to the site. its impossible, isnt it?

its the old 'need experience to get a job, but cant get experience until you have a job' thing all over again!
Report somemuppet July 19, 2015 10:07 PM BST
any jokes anyone while we wait ?
Report sideshowbob July 19, 2015 10:08 PM BST
how many betfair engineers does it take to change a light bulb?
Report NorwichRob July 19, 2015 10:08 PM BST
Yep bf is the real market which should be put up as a proper punters paradise...unfortunatley sports punting still seems to be frowned upon by the righteous..
Report sideshowbob July 19, 2015 10:09 PM BST
woah i just had a bet that was up from before the meltdown taken. it must be back then??
Report Westender July 19, 2015 10:10 PM BST
The Columbus Crew v Chicago Fire MLS match has been delayed in order to allow Betfair Engineers to complete their investigation.
Report Darlo Bantam July 19, 2015 10:10 PM BST
No. Not back here.
Report Marean July 19, 2015 10:12 PM BST
This is getting ridiculous...
Report sideshowbob July 19, 2015 10:13 PM BST
somebody just layed my bet in the golf that i put up about 2 hours ago. bit weird that it wasnt cancelled? unless it was really matched before the meltdown and the entire market page was just frozen until now??
Report sideshowbob July 19, 2015 10:13 PM BST
gonna look in my account see what it says
Report sideshowbob July 19, 2015 10:15 PM BST
matched at 21:52. placed at 19:21 (so nearly 3 hours ago, not 2)
Report amelia1253 July 19, 2015 10:16 PM BST
betted on columbus game velez game and joinville game thinking that it was working for them to bring the games down aswell as the others pointless
Report gotitwrong- July 19, 2015 10:18 PM BST
betfair just announced they have fixed the sportsbookSad
Report Darlo Bantam July 19, 2015 10:19 PM BST
Sportsbook fixed. Still working on Exchange.
Report Westender July 19, 2015 10:19 PM BST
The engineers have fixed the Sportsbook Issues and now working on the Exchange.

Lucky these idiots are not in charge of something important such as paramedics as they would rush past someone suffering a heart attack to treat someone who fell next to them suffering from a minor graze.
Report Westender July 19, 2015 10:20 PM BST
Even the Engineers are told the Spudsbook is the priority LaughLaugh
Report salmon spray July 19, 2015 10:20 PM BST
What a joke     Sad
Report sideshowbob July 19, 2015 10:23 PM BST
id love to know how my bet got matched when the sites down. someone must have a super duper flux capacitor computer that can travel through time and space
Report somemuppet July 19, 2015 10:25 PM BST
Does anybody here use the sportsbook much ? odds can be chronic at times especially on the footy.Limited markets too compared to pps, wh and b365?
Report salmon spray July 19, 2015 10:29 PM BST
I have absolutely no interest in using a conventional bookmaker.
Report Westender July 19, 2015 10:29 PM BST
Sportsbook limit winners to very small amounts and prices are much worse than the other Bookmakers
Report mamouth007 July 19, 2015 10:33 PM BST

Jul 19, 2015 -- 7:56PM, Kriskin wrote:


Can u place a bet though?


Well sometimes it's impossible to get your bet matched on less interesting markets.
But 95% of the time exchange is supposed to be better than sportsbook.

Report Darlo Bantam July 19, 2015 10:40 PM BST
Very good point made on Twitter by Peter Webb that Betfair prioritised fixing the sportsbook before the exchange where people have an open position. Putting customers first eh?! Tw@s.
Report nonserviam89 July 19, 2015 10:44 PM BST
...or maybe it's a million times easier to fix than the exchange markets..
Report Westender July 19, 2015 10:45 PM BST
LOOK AT THE PRODUCT STATUS


The Exchange at the bottom of the pile and priorities
Report Darlo Bantam July 19, 2015 10:47 PM BST
Looks like getting closer to being fixed.
Report Davy July 19, 2015 10:51 PM BST
Back now looks like.
Report Darlo Bantam July 19, 2015 10:53 PM BST
Back up.
Report gotitwrong- July 19, 2015 10:55 PM BST
now they can settle some bets ?
Report Darlo Bantam July 19, 2015 10:57 PM BST
Not everything back in play yet though.
Report somemuppet July 19, 2015 10:59 PM BST
just noticed the 2 1 ht in columbus game was 20/1 or so and was still 2 1 , somebodys having a nightmare or the site is still edgy. I should have bet on it but missed the boat as usual.
Report Einzelkind July 19, 2015 11:17 PM BST
A good lay day spoiled :(
Report somemuppet July 19, 2015 11:24 PM BST
even the smileys are failing
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