England are frightening, according to Rooney

they don't kid anyone anymore

they never did!!!

wait till they beat Italy in the friendly. their euro odds will be cut into single figures.

we've been here before

We're probably in the worst Euro qualifying group ever. But you can only beat what's put in front of you, and England are doing that very well. But frightening. Have a look in the mirror, Wayne, that's frightening.

May aswell crown England now

England have some good young players. Can reach the euro 2016 semi finals with a little luck.

England are frightening, in the Halloween sense of the word

they are shoite

Attack and defence are fine. We always have good defenders, and a three from Sterling/Sturridge/Rooney/Kane is as good as anything else that'll be at the Euro's. Midfield is what bothers me. Henderson and Carrick fine, but Delph? We need someone to come through. Could use Rooney there but Roy would never do it

In saying that, if Delph had signed for Liverpool I'd probably be okay with. I'm as shallow as other England managers

England won't win anything with Hodgson as manager, he is to boring and dull. If I was manager Rooney, Welbeck and Kane would have all started yesterday and England would have won 6-0 and put fear in to all the other teams.

"Sterling/Sturridge/Rooney/Kane is as good as anything else that'll be at the Euro's"


you might want to revisit that statement next summer

the back 4 is absolutely shocking. i'd have no confidence in whoever is chosen against top class opposition

no fan of any the likes of terry, ferdinand, cole and neville but they were all several classes above the current defenders

At last we do seem to have a sense of team spirit and togetherness that has been lacking probably since 1996. We've had the Utd v Liverpool rivalry, the ego's of the likes of Terry, Ferdinand, Gerrard and Beckham which at different times have held us back. We've also got a squad with plenty of potential. We've got a good keeper and a range of very good attacking players. I like Henderson in midfield but we probably need one more to come through in midfield. I've always been a massive carrick fan but unfortunately we didn't use him anywhere near enough when he was at his peak so i'm not sure now is the time. Wilshere could yet come through but at the moment he's still got lots to prove. The defence is a worry but we have players such as Stones, Clyne, Chambers, Bertrand who could come through. Cahill is good enough. we need to find a partner for him. Maybe Jones can come through if he's ever given a long run at centre back at Utd.

All in all we're not as good as Germany or Spain plus France have home advantage but i think it's right to make us 4th favourites.

beat lithuania 4-0 and everyone running scared

If Scotland won 4-0 against Lithuania they'd erect a statue of Gordon Strachan in Glasgow town centre. Hell, if Scotland beat Gibraltar 1-0 they'll probably do that

Big question for me tomorrow is: will the Scots have recovered from losing their cup final to England's reserves?

JC1326    28 Mar 15 14:00 
Attack and defence are fine.

nobody mentioned scotland.

Rest of europe frightened after beating the MIGHTY GLOBAL WORLD FORCE IN INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALL THAT IS "LITHUANIA" ?? AS I SAID BEFORE JUST SHOWS HOW THICK FOOTBALLERS ARE, AND HIM IN PARTICULAR, IF HE WASNT A FOOTBALLER HED JUST BE A COMMON CRIMMINAL CHAV ON THE STREETS

This is the same hype as the idtios who had a "kane love-in" after his hattrick against LEICESTER and his first England goal against LITHUANIA

Special One why are you always seething? I used to think England were total sh1t but with Kane they could destroy all of Europe and go on to win Euro 2016. Would love to stay and chat but I have to go to a bookies to get a bet on.

England are good on paper.

Mar 28, 2015 -- 6:13PM, YOMOMMA wrote:

Special One why are you always seething? I used to think England were total sh1t but with Kane they could destroy all of Europe and go on to win Euro 2016. Would love to stay and chat but I have to go to a bookies to get a bet on.

I'm still seething after England failed to get out the group stage in Brazil, All they have done since then is add 1 player, and all he did was score a tap in header from 2 yards at HOME against LITHUANIA and suddenly the whole of Europe should be frightened says roony

*im still seething after I layed Kane to score... fixed

not seething as much as the punter who backed Kane to score a header with a firm who voided the bet (because he didn't start)

that's proper hard done by.

Not sure about that if it was stated pre-bet that such an eventuality would result in a non-runner.

I am sure that the punter would have been seething if Harry had come on with a minute to go to wind the clock down if the score was 1-0.

Plenty of chances to have a pop at the alleged "Bookmakers" without going off tangent.

Not sure if England are 'frightening' but we do seem to have some hungry predators up front Rooney, Sturridge, Kane and even Welbeck. Hope manager recognizes our best weapons are upfront imo.

It should be Rooney and Walcott up front

Will not come anywhere close to winning anything until they can keep the ball and learn about positional play.

End of.

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It should be Rooney and Walcott up front

Can I get someone sectioned for offences against true life.

Walcott is always injured and is rubbish anyway.

Too many Arsenal players suffer from the same type of injuries.

Once again the Manager has his coaches teach them to twist and turn and then fall down and put their right hand up demanding a free kick..

That is why so many players at the Gunners have lower leg injuries..

That is a fact.

That Jack Wilshire is a classic case...

stiff opposition in this group Rooney called it well

the 4 smelly ,scruffy goals sum england up,deflections, rebounds,scrambles,shinners, etc

Walcotts top quality, when he's fit, imo. If he left Arsenal and went somewhere with a physio I think he'd been one of the first names on England's team sheet. Sterling and a fit Walcott flanking Kane, with Rooney behind, even Roy couldn't make that dull

Mar 29, 2015 -- 12:23PM, 1st time poster wrote:

the 4 smelly ,scruffy goals sum england up,deflections, rebounds,scrambles,shinners, etc

Well, Italy needed to score in the last ten minutes to beat Azerbaijan at home, Holland the same to beat ten-man Kazakhstan, Spain beaten in Slovakia, a tiny bit of research puts things in to perspective. Qualifying is irrelevant anyway

top teams are told to drop a few poits to make 2nd 3rd more exciting

Defence is poor.

When you think that we used to have Cole, Terry, Rio and Neville as a back four, then compare it to what we have now, it's laughable.

spot on. the goal that sent us out of the world cup was sunday league and that's being generous. an hoof down the field, flicked on and jagielka and cahill were hopelessly out of position to let suarez in to score

England's back line is shoite, but their midfield and attack is decent.

England are probably joint 7th favourites with Portugal to win the euros, behind Germany, Spain, France, Belgium, Holland and Italy.

Don't think it is beyond England to reach the semi's in France. The team have found and identity and composure under Roy. The test will come as always against a quality outfit.

frighteningly bad I assume he meant

omfg
here we go again wiv ingerlund
forum regulars plat and tso have been around the block and know the game
I remember england won every game in quali for euro 88 and were favourites i believe
they beat a quality yugoslavia team 4-1 in belgrade if memory serves
then..
lost all 3 in the tournament
The point of international football is that it is a hundred miles away from our dearly beloved epl
The epl is played at a breakneck pace in the middle of winter
tournament international football is played in the height of summer on continental europe or some other flesh burning hell on earth
You simply can not play kick and rush for 90 mins in such conditions
you have to play keep ball
england midfielders who can keep possession are numbered on one hand
off the top of my head i can think of Carrick, Huddlestone, leon osman and leon britton
only one of them is in the current squad
you can have all the harry kane, rooneys, sterlings and sturridges you want but if england can not keep possession they may as well not be on the field
Hodgson has spent zero time building a team for next summer
when sir ALf won in 66, he had the team he wanted the autumn before when they beat spain
thats planning
Hodgson picked his best team to beat Lithuania at Wembley 4=0 well done
he is going to pluck an xi out of his backside to play italy on tuesday, a game which he should use for a template for france
i weep for the state of english football

^ refreshingly honest and accurate post.

It has been,and always will be the same when a team beats poor opposition,and a player scores against them,and is "bigged" up as brilliant.
If you are a follower of racing you will know that winning your low grade prep races isn't the same as winning group races,as that is where the real test comes.
Yes,Kane is good,and I couldn't understand why he wasn't sarting for Spurs at the beginning of the season,but he was easily cancelled out against a top side.
So far they haven't played against a half decent team,and people are getting carried away.There is some good potential in the team,but also some weaknesses,time will tell.
Agree about keeping the ball,and that has always been where we blow it,trying to play too fast,and thereby losing control.

I don't think any intelligent fan is getting carried away by Lithuania. Mostly just the OP taking a harmless Rooney quote and trying to stir. But the OP strikes me as being a huge mug, so no surprise there.

Germany aside, was there anything better than England at the World Cup? Argentina pretty much played for 0-0 in all their big games, Holland the same. Brazil lost 7-1 at home, Colombia went out to that team. Only difference appeared to be all those sides were well organised, whereas our team ran around like headless chickens. That's the managers fault, not the players at his disposal

The answer to that is International football has been going down the drain for some time.The big tournaments come at the end of a long hard season for some,and instead of taking a break and going away ,they have to start allover again with top tournaments,resulting in many poor performances from the World's stars.Not many games are exciting to watch,and it can't be coincidence that so many countries are massively under performing.

"Germany aside, was there anything better than England at the World Cup? "





That strikes me as a HUGE MUGgy comment

Superb (and sadly very true) post from thelatarps

cheers plat, biscuit
appreciate it
someone said the other day that england are a quarter final team
they should be aiming for semis at the very least

"you can have all the harry kane, rooneys, sterlings and sturridges you want but if england can not keep possession they may as well not be on the field"
Uefa Champions League semi-final 2013/14 Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich possession stats Real 36% Bayern 64%(source UEFA). Final aggregate score Real 5 vs Bayern 0
EPL April 27 2014 Liverpool vs Chelsea possession stats Liverpool 73% Chelsea 27%(source BBC).  Final score Liverpool 0 vs Chelsea 2

No reason to believe having possession is the be all and end all. Don't see any truly outstanding international team. A reasonable tactician can fashion an England side that makes the most of our speed and goal threat upfront. Don't think we are that far away.

Germany aside, was there anything better than England at the World Cup?

, then, then delusional


Previous posters correct, has been the same for nearly 2 generations - get completely outplayed in midfield, and sometimes by mid-ranking teams.

England should be in the top 3/4 of Europe,their problem will be when they play against a team that keeps possession well like Chile did at Wembley,they reduced England to running around like "headless chickens" they didn,t give England any of the ball,England have a lot of fine young athletic/strong/pacey players and should be better this time round but stepping up from the mediocrity that is the EPL is a big ask,how much "progress"has there been in Europe?.

ffaith
i am of the opinion that parking the bus, playing counter attack football is a worthwhile tactic, like you
however
how often do real madrid or chelsea do this?
once a season, twice?
in a season of 50 odd games
It is an exhausting policy, requiring physical and mental discipline for 90mins
you run a whole lot more without the ball than with it
I don't think you can win an international tournament in summer conditions with it
doing it in the quarters, semis and final in the space of a week
its a non runner for me

thelatarps
Don't think,like you, we have the defensive discipline, organisation or strength to continually park the bus but i do believe we can mould this bunch into a truly dangerous counter attacking side. I may be wrong but i have never seen Real park the bus. I've seen them play counter attack when playing teams of equal strength like Barca or Bayern but never ultra defensive or negative tactics.

well
i think the 1-0 first leg over Bayern was pretty much parking the bus
they certainly did it every time they played barca under mourinho
but then that was once or twice a season
i dont know about a truly dangerous counter attacking side
think this only works with truly world class players being supported by superfast superfit midfield runners
youve got real last year with bale, cr7, benzema, di maria running on
the roonaldo man u team with parky breaking like a whippet
brazil won a couple of world cups with romario and the original ronaldo with that kind of approach
Think you would have to be wildly optimistic to put kane, sturridge and sterling in that bracket

Club football played at the highest level is of a better standard than international football imo.  The one truly outstanding international side i have seen in recent years is Spain and they are in transition/decline.
The original Ronaldo, in 2006, played alongside Adriano, Ronaldinho and Kaka in probably the last decent Brazilian team.  Nobody(at least not me) is saying that England are in that class or that England will win the world cup.
What i am saying is that in view of the current standard of international football there is no reason England should have an inferior complex.
I agree Real did park the bus under Mourinho but that's why he got the sack

Mar 30, 2015 -- 6:47PM, Wallflower wrote:

Germany aside, was there anything better than England at the World Cup?, then, then delusionalPrevious posters correct, has been the same for nearly 2 generations - get completely outplayed in midfield, and sometimes by mid-ranking teams.

I admit, I do let me patriotism cloud my judgement somewhat, but name a team that was so much better, overall?

Brazil Lost 7-1. Argentina blagged their way through by playing for 0-0, Holland the same. Colombia and Chile were thrilling in the group stage, but both submitted to a poor Brazil team in the moment of truth. I'm not saying England were good, but it isn't as if every other side are so intimidating.

Hodgson should of been fired though. Failing in a group with Costa Rice and two p*ss poor Italian and Uruguay teams was unforgivable. We should of went after someone like Sabella, imo. Showed he could get an average side to a final, which is likely more than Roy will ever do. Also showed he can manage a side with a star player that never performs in tournaments (Messi/Rooney)

you are rightJC
there wasnt an awful lot of quality about some of teams in the world cup
but there is a difference between being astute and tactically aware like the dutch and the argentinians
and hopelessly optimistic and naive like the english.
the dutch and arg came with settled sides and a game plan
england came with the same old "play the high tempo epl game and we will surely win"
which is impossible in the amazon jungle

England players lack skill on the ball. That's why I find Harry Kane so refreshing he actually shows talent on the ball.

Rooney, probably meant frightened

Mourinho might be the answer if England want to seriously challenge for a trophy.

England are set to qualify out of probably the worst (ie easiest) qualifying group ever. Switzerland, Slovenia, Lithuania, Estonia and San Marino and now you are saying you will get to the semi finals or even win it!

Germany, Spain, France and Belgium way ahead of you. Italy always beat you in tournaments.

Defence is poor with Cahill a liability at the highest level, as in the last World Cup. I like Hart in goal but even he came up short in the World Cup.

Up front Rooney freezes on the big stage or is unfit or is tired at the end of the season. I like Sturridge but injury prone. Kane completely unproven. Who's left?

Correct. But just watch what happens when they beat Italy in a friendly tonight

rooney said england are frightening but then rooney is english and if you were english you would be frightened to have that team representing you against the top sides in europe.