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who is the best player in the premiership???? help settle an argument
who is the best player in the premiership???? help settle an argument
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aguero is fecking brilliant.
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he scored a hat trick v bayern munich. how many players have ever done that.
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silva is the classiest player in the EPL by a long way and aguerro is the best striker in the EPL
kane is scoring goals against second rate players and we need to wait to see what he does against international class defenders. |
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That's a laughable post we'd tender. All three you mention are world class.
No world class players in the prem  |
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Fellaini
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Surely (and obviously) 'world class' simply means the best in the world at that time - they could be carp compared to 'all time greats' but they would still be 'world class'.
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So if the standard of football continues to decline, the best player in a poor era may be players with huge salaries with mediocre ability such as a Rooney, Wilshire, Gerrard or Wanky Lampard.
None could lace the boots of the all time greats and all are even way behind some of the great World Class Scottish players such as Kenny Dalglish, Jim Baxter, Jinky Johnstone and David Cooper. World Class standard to me will always be players who would be up there with the greats in any era. |
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shirley that is the best of all time ?
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if it's defined for example as if you put a 22 man squad together using any player from any country, would any epl players make that squad?
i think that 3 or 4 might be shortlisted, perhaps aguerro, costa, toure, maybe fabregas, but you'd need a top 30/40 to be sure they'd all definitely make it, i'm not sure if many would make the first 11 as starters just my view |
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Look at the SPL - not one of the current Celtic squad would get near the first team 20 years ago. when the standard of football was a good standard.
The league now is a joke and would people really state that Anthony Stokes or Lee Griffiths is World Class because they score goals every week against cannon fodder? The definition of World Class - up there with the best in any era. That is the standard or it won't be long before people claim Raheem Sterling is world class. |
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just to add whilst i think aguerro is the best striker in the epl (and poss best overall), there are probably 2 or 3 you could choose ahead of him in world football, toure might stand the best chance of being in a world 11 side
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The current period is irrelevant.
If the entire world footballing standard fell to current Scottish league level, it is absurd to consider any player world class. |
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The definition of World Class - up there with the best in any era.
That's your definition but nobody else's - you've just defined 'all time great' very well though......... |
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Toure is just another overpaid plodder mate and could not lace the boots of the great midfield players.
If you had a choice at their peak - would you select Zidane, Iniesta, Platini or Yaya? |
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Currently David De Gea for me, has earned his team the most points "on his own".... Is looking like he will be the first and possibly only 80 million pound goalkeeping transfer.
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world class is generalised now by by many and the fickle supporter and seems to be based around celebrity and status within the media. It is no such thing. World class means you can fit into a world XI or make the bench if stretching the point. If you think somebody makes the team then you consider him world class if not he is a decent , very good or overated individual with a blindingly good agent.I can't believe that Osvaldo can pinch £70k a week yet not be good enough for Saints or Inter. The game has gone ga ga. There are plenty of excellent agents who could sell sand to the Arabs at a premium. Agents that are self serving. They come first, the player second, the club third and the fans can f*** off.
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Ergo England haven't any world class players! Neither have Scotland, Ireland, Northern Ireland and Wales may have one if you consider him a winger but he doesn't play as a wide man nowadays.
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i think that welshman is prob the only chance there is of a home nations player making a world squad
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undoubtedly,wide left him or Di Maria? Thats a no brainer but for all that pace and strength he doesn't want to be stuck outside the game wide on the left.
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agree, so the only home grown talent in world football is a bit player who might struggle to get into a world 11 but is a nice sub to throw on after an hour
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World class is not defined by who would get into a world eleven now.
There may be eg 3 world class goalscorers, or goalkeepers at one time but only one would be in the team...this does not then mean the others are not world class... To be world class you must be of the highest level produced throughout the history of world football...that's how it is. |
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Spot on above mate.
In my opinion there are none currently playing in the Premeirship. Some really good players such as Hazard who have time on their side to get up there with the best. |
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you have the best and the rest, the rest get well paid for their short comings. Its not garnered through eras it is the here and now, world class means you are a pick and get to strut your stuff. FFS even Balotelli used to have his followers hyping him up just like agents have to. The exceptional do not need to sell themselves their ability and attitude/focus does that.
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If you were ignoring injury issues it's clearly Aguero for me. When he's on top form, there's no-one as devastating. His injury record though stops him hitting the absolute elite of world football as he can never stay fit for the entire season.
Surprised at all the mentions of Yaya in here. Yaya is a liability vs good teams, only looks good vs weaker teams. The game just passes him by when Man City don't have the ball and he's just a passenger on the team then. |
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ph - hypothetical situation
The entire football world deteriorated below SPL standard. Surely there is zero world class players at that point in time. Imagine comparing Carrick to Zidane - like comparing a rotten reliant robin with a Ferrari |
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if you qualified for a place then you are at the time world class, the benchmark will move accordingly. You can only beat what is in front of you,comparing eras is purely for those who like to argue and antagonise. Today they are faster and fitter not to mention mollycoddled, even the balls don't hurt.For comparison would say Ronaldo have survived in the 60s and 70s? Heavy balls,heavy pitches, no protection from the Ref and not being awarded a free kick or penalty every time he is brushed off the ball. So he is great today but could he have excited like Best at that time?
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my alltime top two and I'm showing my age are Maradona and Messi. I was born at the arse end of the 60s,so can't talk about Pele or Best. Maradona won a WC more or less on his own. Him an Messi had/have everthing bar height and decent advisors. Each to their own but I prefer Messi's football ethic to Ronaldo's,one gets on with it the other wants everything on his terms and throws himself around like a two year old. His goal record though is phenomonal, I just dislike the preening package.
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