99% sure about doing this £2000 bet!

Bayern not looking good

Looks good but two grand on at skybet, best of luck with that.

They hardly went full on the other day in the Super Cup game the other day but Dortmund will not finish above them in the league especially with the expected departures of Mats Hummels and maybe Marco Reus to come. The last 2 years they have finished 20 or more points behind Bayern!

Will have to contact them shortly to see if they will allow me to do it!

Even though your a Gooner good luck if do get on !

I just can't see it losing and want something to follow throughout the season!

as long as u can afford it without crying if it loses, that's a good bet I think and I wish you luck

Thanks mate. Sky Bet seem to be ok with it!

As the odds suggest, bet 2 has the higher likliehood of failure.

What with Arsenal only 4th last season, and United likely to be much improved this season, and with no European distractions....you never know.

You should finish top 4 though, Scousers 5th

Not bad odds on Arsenal to finish top four. Chelsea and Man City are pretty much guaranteed to finish top 4 again.

Man United have a terrible defence and will concede goals with Robin Van Persie likely to pick up injuries throughout the season as he ages.

Arsenal look strong this year and Sanchez will prove to be a fantastic signing, you get the feeling he will be replicating his form from Chile at Arsenal and will bring the best out of all the players around him.

Also rumoured to be signing that Greek defender who is a beast.

Great reply Lemmiwinks... you basically just reinforced everything that I have been thinking in my mind and said in my previous post. 1/2 is an absolute gift, I was extremely shocked when I first saw that price! It's a solid bet and will make the season extremely exciting!

Lol Lemmiwinks, does RVP age faster than others?  Finish the season as a pensioner

Just look at his hair!

£2k on Chelsea to win the league returns £6k

Just saying

Their defence is awfully weak.

RB Rafael
CB Jones
CB Smalling
LB Shaw

They will get torn apart by any attack!

Chelsea's odds for them to win the league though are correct and I'm not confident about that at all. It is very open!

:D His body is made of glass!!!!

From memory I can only think of 1/2 seasons where has gone through without an injury lasting more than 5/6 weeks. Given that he's their lynch pin player, that doesn't bode well for them.

I don't think Man United have bought well. Maybe Fellaini will prove that he's worth the money this season, but however good a prospect Ander Herrera is, he's not going to change that midfield by himself. Mata may be utilized better by Van Gaal but if he plans on playing Antonio and Ashley Young as wing backs with the central defenders they have available to them then Premiership league teams will be creating chances not to mention the fear factor of playing Man United has undoubtedly gone now.

Spurs and Everton won't have the strength in depth to challenge but you can see Everton pushing close to top 4. Liverpool losing Suarez is a huge blow no matter how much they are pretending it isn't. He bought the best out of Sturridge and other team players, they have bought well for sure and have more depth but too many players need to settle in the Premiership. The Serbian striker is a good signing but you can't gaurantee that he'll hit the ground running. Arsenal have the luxury of bedding in their new signings as they still have the backbone of the team who served them so well last season and now with Sanchez that takes so much pressure of Ozil who we may see the absolute best of now.

You are completely spot on with absolutely everything you have just said! I don't understand why there is so much hype over Van Gaal at all. He subbed a keeper for another keeper before a penalty shootout at the world cup. That is hardly rocket science and is the common thing to do if you have a better shot stopper on the bench. He is no Sir Alex Ferguson, as much as I hate him he was a great manager and as soon as he left the only way was down for future managers and the club as a whole! They don't really have any strength in depth either when you really look at it deeply. Just pretty average. I'm not saying Arsenal are world beaters but they look and seem to be a lot stronger than Man United and definitely Liverpool who without Suarez have lost nearly half their goals so they will have to find where them goals will come from now. They concede so often that if they don't score as many goals as they did last season then they will definitely struggle. Spurs and Everton have their moments and are excellent on their day but they have no staying power and either come back to Arsenal in the end or just get completely blown away! Arsene Wenger will be looking at challenging for the title not just a top 4 finish. That is a minimum expectation! Alexis Sanchez will definitely provide an X factor and with him and Walcott bombing down the wings or penetrating through the middle and feeding the prolific Olivier Giroud we are set up very well. not forgetting the creativity of Mesut Ozil and Santi Cazorla. Aaron Ramsey is also looking even better than last season! I'm happy with the David Ospina signing... he is a very solid signing and I'm really hoping he becomes our Number 1 before long as I don't really trust Szczesny much! Per and Kos are a rock solid centre back partnership and Gibbs and Monreal are pretty good left backs who both have different qualities that can be utilized against different opposition! Debuchy seems to fit in well and Chambers is an exciting young prospect. I want us to sign another decent center back though and also a defensive midfielder or a creative striker would be great but I'm happy with what we have now!

If you had accompanied me to Ashton Gate on Tues to see Bristol City v Oxford you might have reconsidered bet 4!!
Seriously though, would agree that the Arsenal bet is the only risky one, for reasons mentioned above.
Good luck with it - think you will be OK

That is the League Cup for you though, it's an absolute shambles of a competition and not even some lower league teams take it seriously! There will be mediocre results and performances from them and Derby I'm sure but over a 46 game season with the squads both teams have got I can't see them outside the top half of their respective leagues. In Arsene I Trust!

Absolutely. A lot of second stringers played on Tuesday. I'm just peed off as I listened to the Manager saying he was serious about winning and bet accordingly. There is no way City will finish outside the top half this season.

Might aswell put Djokovic to win the first round of the US Open in there.

How about this?
Czech league  Sparta Prague @ 1.44
Belgian league Anderlecht   @ 1.72
German league   Bayern      @ 1.16
French league   PSG         @ 1.16
Gives you around 11/4 on Betfair

2,000  3-1  5-1 bets you would make much more profile even if you just guess 2,000 bets

profit*

I like that bet Cruso but I don't trust Anderlecht at all and the Czech league can be a bit weird at times also. Not that knowledegable about them leagues. At least with these ones I'm sure I want to go with them in my own mind!

I tend not to listen to what managers and people at the clubs say that much unless it is especially relevant. It's always disappointing when your team play **** though lol!

Tennis betting has done me over too many times so I will leave that out!

If you think our defence is going to be:

RB Rafael
CB Jones
CB Smalling
LB Shaw

Then you should self exclude yourself from every betting site asap!

LVG favours wing backs so will be something along the lines of Valencia-Smalling-Jones-Evans-Shaw if all fit...

You're right though, either way our defence is sh1te!

Looks an absolute cert to me.

Bayern will walk it.
Arsenal are always top 4.
Derby will probably make the play offs, never mind top half.
Bristol City looked very good at Sheffield utd last week and i'd have them finishing top 3-4 under Cotterill

well it will probably win. arsenal the only slight possibility of losing.

surprised you can get it on though, ive just put it in to mine and max stake was £200. how much money have you lost to them over the years??

One of those four could find a way
of coming unstuck.
Try Chelsea or ManC to win
the Premier League at around
4/6, would be my idea of a gift.

dortmund put almost their reserves out for the super cup game.

they put the same side out v us.

only mikhatarian and the 2 fullbacks were regulars v us...not sure which goalie played (dont reate their 1st choice either way)

whetehr immoble or ramos is 1st choice is guess work

no hummels or subotic
no gundogan and bender didnt start.

imo if dortmund stay fit they win the league because their system is far superior to guardiolas...

I think Bristol City are likely to get promotion at the very least.I have been following their fortunes for the last couple of seasons,and they have improved immensely with good signings as well.They were a bit unlucky last season,dropped a lot of points when playing ok,but didn't see games out.JET looked a player who should be playing at championship level,so that is a very safe bet.

I will be backing them a lot this season and playing draw/no bet at times as well.I think they can take this division by storm,only my opinion of course.

not worth it , one of those could cause you heartache..

goner

I don't understand why there is so much hype over Van Gaal at all.

not a united fan at all but this man is the bizz nizz, utd top 4 must be bet of the season imo

gooner*

This one is better than the Bayern one

F1

Constructors Champs w/o Merc
Red Bull 1/6

I think I would put in burnley to get relegated instead of Bayern munich...

better odds and you have 3 places going for you rather than one...

but its still a fair bet though

The Red Bull bet is immense to be honest but I just have absolutely zero passion in Formula 1 and the bet is as much for entertainment as it is for a gamble. Burnley more than likely will go down but a few wins here and there and any team can survive really! I fancy West Ham to struggle badly and they are a team I was considering to do a bottom half finish but I just prefer this one!

I just placed the bet... will post the screenshot later guys when it gets approval!

Good luck to everyone this season

I think we can write off Man Uniteds chances of getting into the top 4 if that is the strength of their squad on todays showing!

I'm not surprised at all by what happened to Man United. As well as their squad being extremely weak, they seem to have lost all fight! Arsenal were terrible yesterday and still managed to grab the three points. Bristol City won from behind and Derby got a decent point away at Hillsborough so quite a decent day!

Betfair keep refusing me permission to post the photo, is there any other way to show you all?

If you can get 2k on with Skybet I'll eat my hat. £2 would be more like it!!

I got it on easily... have won £1000 from poker on there in the past aswell. Not done much in terms of sports betting with them! I will have to make a twitter to show you the bet!

Gooner4life - Maybe my memory escapes me; were you the Arsenal fan who posted here about 2 years ago who lived out in Colombia?

Yes mate, back in the UK now though!

Unlucky!!!

Im heading out to Colombia for 3 months end of September. Starting off in Bogota then heading north to Barranquilla visiting little towns/cities along the way before coming back down to Medellin.

Might go onto Ecuador after that but see how things work out.

Any absolute must recommendations I should see in the country?

You will have the time of your life mate! I was in a place called Armenia in Quindio and before that I was staying in Villa Hermosa Medellin. You have to go to a Nacional vs Medellin game and experience the atmosphere... just make sure you don't get stabbed or anything and as soon as the women see you are white they will literally be all over you! There is no way you will ever want to come back!

:D :D I have the blue eyes to go with my whiter than white skin, despite having black hair my mums Irish genes come out in my skin colour. Never have I been tanned in my life, just red and white.

I'll try to go to as many games as possible no matter how crap they are.

Hopefully I'll improve my Spanish a lot over there although I think it'll take me a couple of weeks to adjust to the Colombian accent, I had problems with accents changing when I went in between cities in Mexico.

Schalke 04 to win the Bundesliga

Wishful thinking Schalke!

They love white men seriously as soon as they see you are white and from the UK they will just be approaching you, some of them will even literally drag you off the streets.

You should go to as many games as you possibly can, the tickets are quite cheap also!

That is the only thing that is really hard with Spanish... they talk so quickly that when you hear different accents it can get really confusing and just completely throw you off! A lot of women can speak English there anyway!

Mate they all look nailed on to me but do yourself a favour and add PSG @ 2/13 cos monaco are out of sorts,Plus ROMA top 3 finish @4/11 in serie a as they have brought in alot of talent and spent big.Then your reward of odds go from 11/10 to a whopping 9/4 then all you have to do is look after yourself for the next 9mths with no trips to africa ensuring your as fit as a flee to pick up your winnings.Im looking myself for someone to loan me £50k 4 9mths with £5k on top as a thank you to lump on the gunners @2/5 top 4 finish.Good luck son

when I started work in a bookies office many many years ago,on my first day (grand national day)I had to sweep the floor when the shop closed.the floor was littered with losing dockets.i said to the bookie "look at the big pile of dockets"his reply was"all those dockets had racing certainties written on them this morning"good luck with your bet.

dockets   my mate from ireland used that phrase when he first moved to the uk and still does, forget what  his answer was when i asked why he calls them dockets

Hearing them being called dockets is bizarre lol! Nothing is certain but when you see a bet that you just can't see not winning then why not go for it and have a big gamble. If I lose then I lose it is hardly going to be the end of the world! Arsenal to finish top 4 though, I expected it to be between 1/3 and 1/5 as soon as I saw 1/2 I thought I had to do something with that. Good luck if you can find the £50,000! I have already put the bet on, I agree with the ones you said to add in but I'm just happy with this bet and the 11/10 I'm getting!

At the time it was a ticket with a serial number on it,and on the original betting slip you could place a 2 bob double,and then if it won you could cash (that was the word you had to write down)some of your winnings on to another horse.in other words a person could put 10 bob(shillings) on a 2/1 winner and then write bets on the original slip with the money he might win.you could get a betting slip with 100 horses on it and if the first horse was beat all bets where finished.1965.

I wish you best,and go for it.and I hope you win.i would say its a safe bet to collect.

Did not know you had struck your bet well done ! Will keep my eye on it.Whether it wins or loses your get alot of entertainment from it and will drive yourself insane for 9mths looking at fixtures and injuries.But its worth it i look for a ante post wager every year my mates think im nuts cos of the waiting all year.But doing a coupon week in week out and your tailed off,The form through a season dont usually throw up to many shocks does it? Did not like what i saw from the gunners on saturday did not see the usual fast counter attacks nor to many shots on goal.

To be honest they were useless yesterday and they looked like they were still on holiday but they were fully focused and still pulled off a great result! That definitely could be the catalyst for the season now and a strong title push. We wouldn't have got that win in previous years gone by, and we still finished in the top four then so the signs are very encouraging!

Forgot to post my soppy wager for the season   HEARTS scot champ 2/1    dunfermline scot div 1  10/11   real madrid la liga 10/11    leicester top promoted team 11/10 Qpr & burnley   roma top 3 fin 4/11  aberdeen without celtic 7/4   £50 ACCA   RETURNS  £4305.22

Your right ! Had a £30double with a 5/4 shot going on them when 1 nil down at 13/10  thats prob why i saw the game in a diff light cos as a rule i dont ever back arsenal.

So in your mind what order would you place your selections as being more certain than the next one? i have it   1, afc top4  2,b munich  3, b city   and the weakest being derby

Racing Certainties? In the Grand National ???? hmmmm

Borrowing £50k to use on a bet??? you're either mad or you've got balls of steel

I suppose if you are that sure of something then why not, personally I wouldn't stake money that I borrowed but you only live once! To be successful gambling, you have to be a little mad though in my opinion!

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There is proof that I placed this bet and that I am not an attention seeker lol!

NOT BAD gooner but the trouble with theses bets are they tie yuor cash up all season and u only need one to let you down and you smashed, also man u must buy and will buy and will be top 4. you better of betting  the over 0.5 goals in prem games swerve ten 0.0 s and you double ya cash

The way I see the top 4, there are 7 contenders.

Tottenham & Everton show promise occasionally and go on a few good runs but don't have the depth in their squads and the staying power to break into the top four!

Manchester United are desperately struggling and are in desperate need of signing 3 or 4 players, they basically need a new spine of the team which will cost £100,000,000+ which they will not go out and do. They must surely improve on last season but if Van Gaal is saying he needs three months before you see any difference then I think that tells you how bad things are there at the moment!

Liverpool in my opinion are just not the same without Luis Suarez and although they have spent a lot of money, they have hardly drastically improved their team, I would even go as far as to say it has got weaker since last season. For me they will lose their fight and just start struggling at certain points during the season especially with all these players they have bought having hardly any experience in European Football.

Chelsea and Manchester City on paper have the strongest squads in the league by some distance and they always grind results out and it is hard to not see either of them in the top four but strangers things have happened.

Arsenal have the strongest squad that we have had for many years on paper and the fighting spirit finally looks there. Them few world class players Wenger has bought in have really installed a winning mentality in this team which it was lacking before. If he can nail one or two more signings before the transfer window shuts then we really can have a decent title push this season.

For me Chelsea, Manchester City and Arsenal look nailed on for the top four. The other place is a fight between Liverpool, Manchester United, Tottenham and Everton.

It does tie your money up but for me that isn't really a bad thing at the moment as I'm a bit busy to be betting in depth day in day out like I was before!

I couldn't stake significant money on just dodging 0-0's either. That's just pot luck really!

One pre season bet for me £1500 on Costa to be top prem scorer to win £10,292.16.

If he stays fit and mourinho picks him each game he will get 30+ and show what a shower Chelskis recent number 9's have been.

I agree with that but if he gets injured your money literally goes down the drain and with Mourinho you never know he might just start playing Torres or even Drogba in every game!

Think suspensions and the question of whether he'll get the pen's are the negatives.

I was a backer at 7/1 before the off. But after 3 of the favs scoring. (Rooney / Sturridge and Aguero)

Under 6/1 seems far to short on here. Always wonder why they didn't take the 7/1 which was available for months before the season started.

Good luck but I would never stick £2 on a bet including Bristol City in it let alone 2k.

Has Costa scored a hat-trick?

Now less than 4/1

Bristol City will surely finish in the top half of the table!

Top scorer is good for a little punt here and there but for a huge bet, I don't really see how you can do it...

Bristol city will finish in the top 6 (NAP). We have made some excellent signings, and our bench is very strong as well up to previous seasons. It will take an absolute disaster for us not be in the top half. There just are not that many good sides/squads in this league imo and to find 12 to finish above will take some doing. Preston, Orient, Sheff united will be up there and Posh plus MK dons be around the top 6 - other than that the rest are like for like really.

themightymac just seems to have a problem with my lot by the seems of it, maybe he prefers the woeful non league rivals (not even rivals anymore now they are that low).

Good luck with the bet, I have Arsenal top 4, Derby top 6 and my Bristol City top 6 in a few bets myself.

What you mean I have a problem with Bristol City? You are well off the mark. Speaking as a punter, I wouldn`t put tuppence on duff teams from any of the lower divisions, full stop. They are all piss poor and anybody can beat anybody on any given day. I only bet on good teams from good leagues. I honestly hope the guy wins his bet, good luck to him. A problem with them

I completely understand the lower leagues in English Football can be etremely unpredictable from week to week but to be fair that does show in the prices. Over the course of a season though, it would be madness if Bristol City did not at least get a top half finish at the very very least. They even managed it last year and they were absolutely dreadful let alone how strong they are looking this term.

Arsenal were disappointing in The Champions League away at Besiktas but showed a lot of fight and kept a clean sheet which we would not have done in previous years. Hopefully Ozil and Mertesacker coming back into the team livens us up and we finally show some decent form at Goodison this weekend!

Bristol City earned a hard fought point at home to Leyton Orient and they should have won as apparently they had a perfectly good goal disallowed after a great defensive performance kept Orient out. That's now 7 out of 9 points for them so looking good on that front.

Derby suffered a shock defeat at The Valley to Charlton but to be fair Derby did absolutely dominate this game with 65% possession and territorial dominance. They looked a far superior side but surprisingly could not get the job done and lost 3-2. They should hopefully start to pick up. Hopefully they can get a win at home to Fulham this weekend!

Bayern Munich kick off The Bundesliga season this coming weekend at home to Wolfsburg so hopefully they start with a bang!

The bet has moved from 11/10 to about 5/6 now so so far so good.

Bayern got off to a good start tonight beating Wolfsburg 2-1. All selections are off and running now!

Now into 1.72 from 2.10!

Good stuff so far!

Arsenal

Now down to just under 1/2. Even though Arsenal have been frustrating so far we sit in 4th ahead of our main rivals for the top four Manchester United and Liverpool and we are unbeaten in our first six league games. I know we look very fragile at certain points but nowhere near as fragile as the others. About 3/10 from 1/2 now for a top four finish so still on the right path. I do think we will get ruined next week though!

Have not heard from this chap in a while, wonder if he is getting a bit hot inside his Arsenal onesie.....

good find geesus - OP needs to step back into the light, share his take on events so far

anyone manage to find the thread where the guy claimed LFC to beat MUFC in a match bet (finishing position in league) at 11/10 was, quote, 'the greatest value bet of all time' ?

forget who the OP was now, anyone remember?

Up she goes

Dec 6, 2014 -- 10:02AM, GEESUSS wrote:

Up she goes

Nov 24, 2014 -- 12:38PM, bigH wrote:

blinder